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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5285857 - 02/10/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I know I'm sorry, quick reply.

Trip, so how bad is the damage? you have no feeling in your leg at all? I hope you get well soon man.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5285905 - 02/10/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You need to let go of your ego on this one, for just a bit. Tell the doctor EVERYTHING he can possibly know in order to help you in your situation. Who cares if your embarassed. Like everyone else said, this is your health, and unless you're harming others, the doctor can't say a thing.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5285922 - 02/10/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

maybe the doc will be able to prescribe you IM b vitamin injections, my brother gets those, for a different reason though.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5285962 - 02/10/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Guys, at this point, I have no way of telling him shit because he's in Italy until after next week.
SOOOOO... I'll wait until my follow-up appointment on the 23rd (no choice) and if I'm not at least 80% cured
by then, I'll tell him all about the N2O abuse. I promise you.

If I am 80% of the way or more to being cured, he doesn't have to know shit.

Chances are that I won't be that far along in 13 days, so I'll probably be telling him about it.

OKAY???


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5285971 - 02/10/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

TripMeister said:
Guys, at this point, I have no way of telling him shit because he's in Italy until after next week.
SOOOOO... I'll wait until my follow-up appointment on the 23rd (no choice) and if I'm not at least 80% cured
by then, I'll tell him all about the N2O abuse. I promise you.

If I am 80% of the way or more to being cured, he doesn't have to know shit.

Chances are that I won't be that far along in 13 days, so I'll probably be telling him about it.

OKAY???




No.

Not okay.

You can not be an accurate judge in this situation of whether or not you are "80 percent cured." That's just gonna be hearsay on your part.

No matter what, he needs to know why it started.

Otherwise, you are being foolish, and irresponsible.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5285985 - 02/10/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

He knows, you guys don't need to patronize him, I'm sure he feels crappy enough as it is. He can make his own decisions.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: gdman]
    #5285998 - 02/10/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

gdman said:
He knows, you guys don't need to patronize him, I'm sure he feels crappy enough as it is. He can make his own decisions.




I'm sorry, but I don't think he does know just how blatantly irresponsible and foolish it would be to not tell the doctor the cause of the symptoms. He has to get past his pride and his paranoia and tell the doctor. I'm not patronizing him...I'm trying to drill good advice into his brain.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5286015 - 02/10/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I hear you OMR, GOD, do I HEAR you.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5286025 - 02/10/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with Robot, Tripmeister. Although I'm sure that it's hard for you to tell your doctor the truth about why this all started, you're making his job a lot more difficult by not divulging WHY this all started in the first place. It's irresponsible not to tell him at your next appointment, and you may be endangering your health in the long run by not doing so. He may decide to alter your course of treatment if you supply him with this vital knowledge.

Regardless of how much you have improved by the 23rd, I think you need to realize that you are not a doctor, that's why he gets paid the big bucks to make medical decisions and you don't. Don't take something this serious in to your own hands because you're embarrassed to own up to it.

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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Liz]
    #5286059 - 02/10/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Okay Liz.

You are all right, all of you, except e-chode and goobler.

I'll tell him everything at my next appointment, IF I'M NOT 100% PAIN-FREE AND HAVE 100% MOTOR CONTROL RETURNED.

Is THAT agreeable?


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5286076 - 02/10/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not trying to be argumentative or critical, I hope you know that.  I just care about your well-being.  Who knows, even if you feel 100% better and have 100% range of motion, could this relapse down the line?  Is that a possiblity? If so, I would tell him on the 23rd regardless of how you're feeling. I would honestly say that if it's pretty bad right now, make a sooner appointment with a different doctor, since yours is away.  Maybe there's something they can do in the meantime to speed up your recovery?  In any case, I hope it works out and that you feel better soon.  :heart:


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Liz]
    #5286123 - 02/10/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I feel the love :heart:

I'll see you and Suffer at the gathering and I'll be great, you'll see. :wink:

You guys BETTER show!  :evil: :heart:

Edit: changed real name to nickname


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Liz]
    #5286244 - 02/10/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oooops I guess I whoopsied there, sorry.

Well, I'm off to suck down a box of whippets.























heh, ya, RIGHT!


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5286416 - 02/10/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well for medical weed all you need is a problem that has be diagnoised by a docter that has no cure or no treatment. and all other options have been used. So maby you need to by some grow lights and books.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5286422 - 02/10/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Back in late November, about 2 months after I started using N2O on a regular basis, I began to notice some lower back
pain on the left side. I've had some history of disc problems (specifically L5-S1, the very bottom disc in the
spine) and I've been treated with cortisone injections every 6 months for the past two years and I was due for another.
So I made an appointment to get another facet block done. It was performed on December 16th and this time it didn't
completely take the pain away as it usually does. I only got about 70% relief. To my dismay, they wouldn't repeat the
injection before I had to leave for my new year's trip to California on the 30th of December. I went to Cali with some
very minor lower back pain and while there, I did two acid trips and sucked up a total of about 90 or so whippets
during them. I was there for 5 days and on the last day, I got out of bed and could barely walk. My left leg had lost
80% or more of motor control below the knee and I was in EXCRUCIATING pain (mainly in my outer thigh, knee and lower
leg muscles). Thank God I was comfortable when sitting.

When I got back home I made an appointment to see my orthopedic spine surgeon. He had me get an MRI of my lower spine
and the results were that I have still got just slightly bulging discs at L4-L5 and L5-S1 and no surgery can fix it.
He told me it would fix itself in 4 weeks to 4 months, but I wasn't satisfied with that answer and begged him to do
SOMETHING to help me get out of this pain and get my motor skills back. He scheduled a nerve block for January 25th.
(A nerve block is the same as a facet block, except that they inject the cortisone and xylocaine directly into the
nerve instead of next to it.) This is the most painful procedure I've ever experienced. It felt like I was stepping
on the third rail of the subway with a ground wire taped to my lower back! It seemed to work great at first, but
that's normal because the xylocaine numbs the nerve. But, after a day or so, the pain, numbness and motor control loss
came back. I stopped using N2O 3 days later (January 28th) because I felt like shit from it.  Explained In This Post

Then, yesterday, I read this article and FREAKED OUT! :shocked: It seems obvious to me that the N2O abuse caused the
escalation of the left lower back pain to paralysis of my left leg. :sad:






:lol:

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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Freeker]
    #5286475 - 02/10/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm glad I amuse you, I just don't get what's so amusing about this.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5286550 - 02/10/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I actually spent 30 mins to write up a real informative and ellaborate post and tried to respond a few seconds after Blinky locked it...I'll leave my opinions out since this topic became a hornets nest after the last advice I gave.

Quote:

I'm glad I amuse you, I just don't get what's so amusing about this.




Im not sure what your expecting us too say---this is a discussion board...if you dont want feedback then exactly what do you want us to tell you. Your not asking any questions in your post yet your quick to snap back at any small-talk pubbish replies or implications to ellaborate/discuss/contrast.

Nevertheless, If this was caused by NItrous...it's the first account IVe ever heard of with localized symptoms---for the sake of science, there's a first time for everything I guess.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
    #5286638 - 02/10/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, let me elaborate. Mainly this post is to vent my frustration and share my fears with my online community of
people I love, who hopefully love me. Though it seems true that overuse of nitrous to the extent that the 36 y.o.
engineer did it can be quite harmful, it's rare that someone would do that much nitrous, but I also wanted to publish
that fact so that it doesn't happen to anyone here.

As far as "this being caused by nitrous", this is a unique case where a damaged nerve was adversely effected by overuse of N2O which caused paralysis. I'm not saying that this exact thing can happen to anyone else here, but I just want you all to be aware that it happened to me and that it is possible.

I'm aware now that I'm slowly improving and I do expect that I'll be just fine in time, but I still can't be
completely sure and I'm still scared/worried that I'll have permanent problems, but I hope it doesn't come to that.

I thank all of you for your advice and your warm well-wishes.

I'll keep you up to date on my progress from time to time.

I love you all, even the wise-guys. :heart:


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: TM]
    #5286669 - 02/10/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well hey, sometimes it takes shit like this to get us back on track
I do wish you good luck, I do not however rest any mercy on your
ignorant soul for swallowing down hundreds of whippits. I still
find it hard to fathom that you continued your usage of nitrous
even while these symptoms were prevelant.


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Re: NITROUS PARALYZED MY LEG!!... A Clearer Explanation! [Re: Freeker]
    #5286694 - 02/10/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I know it was a stupid thing to do, NOW, but I didn't realize that there was a correlation until I read the article.
As long as I get completely better, I'll have little regret for the experience. It was quite amazingly orgasmic at
times. AND... I've learned about the dangers so it will never happen again.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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