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thekeeper
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Birdseed jars stalling!!!
#5284997 - 02/10/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok... So i have like 48 jars of WBS prepared accoring to Fool Proof Birdseed Method - Technique. Half of the jars were G2G from popcorn substrate, and the other half were shot up with spore syringes and Lc's. All of my jars are experencing EXTREMELY SLOW colonization times. (TiT incubator 80F). 3 weeks and the jars aren't even close to halfway colonized...
Am I having a water problem? Should i soak and simmer instead of cook the water in? I'm not having ANY contam problems at all.
Thanks, I'm so frustrated right now!
-shaw
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Psychonaught
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5285030 - 02/10/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice Handle.
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thekeeper
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: Psychonaught]
#5285047 - 02/10/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya, ive gone thru this like 3 times now, still dont know how to change it. my bad. what are the fuckin odds id pick the name of someone everyone hates....think how that effects my trial and error on this hobby cuz most ppl here wont fuckin talk to me.
-shaw
-------------------- everything i said above is fictional....i don't grow illegal mushrooms! Casing 101 Poor Man s Mycelium Syringe Tek '-.Always use Oust to sterilize your air.-'
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blueferret
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5285060 - 02/10/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you shook your jars?
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thekeeper
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: blueferret]
#5285073 - 02/10/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes, i shook 2 times. once when i inoculated and again when i saw the myc in some of the jars growing towars the top.
-------------------- everything i said above is fictional....i don't grow illegal mushrooms! Casing 101 Poor Man s Mycelium Syringe Tek '-.Always use Oust to sterilize your air.-'
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_OttO_
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5285251 - 02/10/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you got filters on your jar lids?
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thekeeper
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: _OttO_]
#5285268 - 02/10/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes, i am using tyvek and polyfill.
-------------------- everything i said above is fictional....i don't grow illegal mushrooms! Casing 101 Poor Man s Mycelium Syringe Tek '-.Always use Oust to sterilize your air.-'
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Omnicracker
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5285360 - 02/10/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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then the problem is probably water content. i dont know of any good way to fix that.
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KaptKid
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5285372 - 02/10/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your slow growth may be caused from to high of a water content.I've had that problem.
I get my water boiling,turn the heat off,dump in the seed and let soak for 20 hours. Then let drain for four hours. I also add a 1/2 cup of verm into the jar to soak up any water that might not of drained.GL
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KaptKid
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: Omnicracker]
#5285398 - 02/10/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Omnicracker said: then the problem is probably water content. i dont know of any good way to fix that.
There is no way to fix that.Need to start over.
You can take what myc you have and go from there.The longer you wait the more chance of contams.
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coda
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: KaptKid]
#5285425 - 02/10/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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jesus, that tek is full of things you dont need to do.
Want an easy birdseed tek? Ill give you two!
Ridiculously easy tek #1
1.) Measure out birdseed for your jars (1/2 qt dry seed = 3/4 hydrated seed).
2.) Dump seed in large pot, fill water up as much as you can (this is to avoid "running dry", IE have the seed suck up all the water) and put on high.
3.) Once you see a lot of bubbles in the seed (looks like jets of air bubbling the seeds around) let sit at that temp for about 5 min if you want, otherwise just turn down the temp til you only see one or two bubbles coming from the seed. To me this is the perfect simmer temp, you can go a little higher if you want but just make sure your pot doesnt run dry.
4.) After a 1/2 hr of simmering remove the pot from heat and dump the seed into a strainer in the sink. I like to let most of the water pour down the drain before dumping the pot into the strainer. I let this strain for about 30-45 min stirring occasionally to let the steam release. Once you stop seeing steam when you stire you're about ready to PC.
5.) Load into jars, place filters on, alum foil over filters, and PC for 1 hour and 1/2. Let cool over night and inoculate the next day.
Easy tek # 2
This isnt something ive done but people here have had some good success with it.
1.) Fill birdseed in qt jar 1/2 way. Fill up to birdseed line with water.
2.) Place filter discs and lids on then stick in the pc for 1 hr and 1/2.
3.) remove and let cool over night, inoculate next day.
Personally ive had nothing but success with the first method.
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: coda]
#5286523 - 02/10/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i had that problem to cause one to much water now i simmer like 40 min instead on 1 hour use more lc it easy and basically free dryer wbs + 5 cc of LC dont shake except after inoc it always stalled my jars and led to contams in a few i also use wbs with more millet and less millo it seems to colonize faster peningtons has provided best results for me
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onetime
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Re: Birdseed jars stalling!!! [Re: thekeeper]
#5286588 - 02/10/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thekeeper said: ya, ive gone thru this like 3 times now, still dont know how to change it. my bad. what are the fuckin odds id pick the name of someone everyone hates....think how that effects my trial and error on this hobby cuz most ppl here wont fuckin talk to me.
-shaw
PM the admin (the admin is supreame overlord and grandmaster to all) and ask nicely if you can have your name changed. I acedently screwed my name when i frist joined and asked if I could have it changed and it was just have to pick something that isnt in use just like useal. [/end offtopic]
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