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    #5282265 - 02/09/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Me and a friend just today made our substrate of our first batch of shrooms ever. We did everything exactly as stated in the MMGG, except for one thing.

When we were sterilizing our jars, we only let them boil for 17 minutes (my parents got home! (one more damn year!)). Will that pose a problem, as the MMGG calls for an hour of boiling?

or is an hour merely a safety precautious?

i just got done doing this, so boiling it later on today is still possibly an option.

any comments will be appreciated, thanks.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282279 - 02/09/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

good chance you weren't about to kill of the bacteria in there, you can boil them again as long as you didn't shoot up your jars

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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282283 - 02/09/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

with regular boiling (no PC) definetly not...
even boiling for an hour (I have found) may very well not be long enough, do 90 minutes to be sure. Last time I boiled my jars I did it for an hour and lost all the jars to bacteria... that made me buy a PC!!!
With a PC it might (though still unlikely) be possible if it was at 15PSI for that long... but still to be sure I wouldn'T count on it.

Following the MMGG (as any tek) will give you results but only if you follow it word for word (as any tek)!!!
Thinking it will be ok as it is now will only give you frustration when you find out it wasn't... wait until you can boil your jars for 90 minutes and if you don't have an opertunity then find a friend that you can do it at. If you risk growing without that, you'll probably be dissapointed


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: BMArts]
    #5282292 - 02/09/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well good news, i didn't shoot up the jars yet.

if i wait a day, will that cause problems (i.e. bacteria grows), or is that just irrelevant because the boiling will kill it?


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282297 - 02/09/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

dont grow in your parents house, that's disrespectful and you can land them in a lot of trouble.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282299 - 02/09/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think that it is unfair that you are turning your parents in to felons with them even knowing about it. If you get caought you walk and they get nailed. I dought that your jars are even steril 1hr boils arent even 100%.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282303 - 02/09/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it should be fine


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: LochRaven]
    #5282349 - 02/09/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no offense, and i appreciate your respect for my parents, but you guys don't really know my life situation.

i thought this whole operation out quite meticulously, and really run no risk of getting caught. i have a biology III term project that i'm working on (coincidentally growing fungus), so i won't have to hide anything; my shrooms will be right there near my project, parents won't have a clue.

literally the only chance i have of getting "caught" is when i'm in the kitchen boiling tinfoil covered jars. can't really say its just macaroni, as the jars kinda make noise when boiling.

me and my best friend and partner in this operation haven't told a soul; i too have the utmost respect for my parents.

but anyways.....assuming i boil the jars for 90 minutes tomorrow, i should be good, right?


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282499 - 02/09/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Like many people are saying, since you're only boiling and not PCing, you won't be 100% sterile, but 90 mins is about as good as it gets so far as boiling jars. I'd recommend putting like a dishtowel or something on the bottom of the pan so the jars don't directly touch the heat, or else they could crack.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5282522 - 02/09/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

sorry, but i think they are right about your situation. you thought out your "operation", yet you said one of the majic bad words. "FRIEND". Someone already knows, and IMO it's only a matter of time till others know, then others, then the 5-0's. do yourself a favor, and shut it down, then continue later by your self, and let no one know. "trust no one"


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: chuck_lanuck]
    #5282548 - 02/09/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

no offense , but , you are obviously young and have already made a few crucial mistakes . One , you are doing this behind your parents back . Not really cool .

You think your only chance of getting caught is when you are in the kitchen . Better hope your "friend" doesn't gey caught with any shrooms . Wonder what he would do when some slick ass cop is telling him he's facing a felony unless he tells where he got them . You shouldn't tell anyone about this .

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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5284924 - 02/10/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sadly it's people like this that hurt the legalization movement the most.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5369306 - 03/05/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

geez guys give this guy a break. he didn't come here to ask you all's opinions on whether or not he should grow shrooms, he simply asked advice on growing them. if you choose not to give your advice then don't. keep your other personal opinions to yourselves it's his life let him do what he wants. go for it dude but yeah from what i've read look into the fractional sterilization.


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: shroomsynergy]
    #5369348 - 03/06/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

> (my parents got home! (one more damn year)

ahem.. is this because you can't move out until you're 18?  :mushroom2:


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Re: 17 minutes? [Re: jiswim]
    #5369393 - 03/06/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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it's his life let him do what he wants.




His parents stand to lose a house and their freedom through no fault of their own.

Having told a friend, he has already blown it. Read the security forum about the poor gu that got rateed out by a friend of 15 years. TELL NO ONE!

It's not a wise choice, but one I may have also made in my youth. Hopefully he will at least think about it if we comment on it.

Our opinions are just a relevant and valid as his.


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