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OfflineMicrocosmatrix
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The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax?
    #5281605 - 02/09/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

"Richard Calrisian" of Overgrow and Heaven's Stairway Disappears
by Jodie Giesz-Ramsay (08 Feb, 2006)

Did he take the money and run? Or did "RC" go into hiding?

The owner of Heaven's Stairway Seeds, CannabisWorld.com and Overgrow.com has apparently dropped his websites and businesses, and has taken off with everything.

No one knows who "Richard Calrisian" is. No one has come forward with information about the websites. There have been no busts, no arrests linked to the owners. The servers seem to be reachable, but are not hosting the websites anymore.

Was RC scared of being investigated? Did he want to stop paying for an enormous database of information (Overgrow.com)?

Everyone who sells seeds seems to be fleeing North America and going to Amsterdam, Switzerland, Spain, England - the far more progressive countries. They don't want to be picked up by the USA or Canadian governments. Now that the Conservatives are elected in Canada, there's far more risks for people operating marijuana enterprises.

Read the CC Forums thread discussion on the topic here.

WTF????!!  :bouncysmoke:


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5281611 - 02/09/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I was the one who took it down.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5281622 - 02/09/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Throught you were the one that grew it up.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5281629 - 02/09/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hmmmmmmmmm that's weird... really weird...


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: KaptKid]
    #5281630 - 02/09/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: KaptKid]
    #5281633 - 02/09/06 12:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

threw*


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: OJK]
    #5281754 - 02/09/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Much Much Much better news than what I've been fearing....

Hopefully dude is cool and OG is back up w/ all the info one of these days soon...


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5281777 - 02/09/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The plot thickens.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: KaptKid]
    #5281860 - 02/09/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I really hope that the laws don't change for the worse, now that the conservatives have Canada, too.:sad: I really need to visit B.C., before it all goes to shit. I need to find me a good steady strain to start up.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: blissedout]
    #5282577 - 02/09/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm... weird... I'm not sure what to think really. I'll just wait and see what happens.

But Jodie's a stoner babe, man.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5282641 - 02/09/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Microcosmatrix said:
Did he take the money and run? Or did "RC" go into hiding?





charges were filed, I stumbled across them a few days ago and I'm yet to track the
page down again, the page listed his real name, ppseudonym and 3 or 4 others also
charged, most were posession charges as well as export/import charges


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5282757 - 02/09/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: browndustin]
    #5282843 - 02/09/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd really like to see that link Priz...


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: browndustin]
    #5282941 - 02/09/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

browndustin said:
Hmm... well...
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/sh...sb=5&o=&fpart=1
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sounds to me like he's just slandering his competition

Quote:

marc scott emory said...
We have sources in the business that have told us this is what the "industry" now believes is the case




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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5282952 - 02/09/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
I'd really like to see that link Priz...




I really hope to find it again, I've searched for 2 days now and nothing...
I'd have posted it here but my system has been playing spontainious reboot
since my wife started letting her brother use it.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5282962 - 02/09/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
I'd really like to see that link Priz...




heres a similar one

http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/4462/Owner_of_Overgrow_com_Arrested


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5282968 - 02/09/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5282973 - 02/09/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

emery/cannabis culture reports are wrong..


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5282992 - 02/09/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
sounds to me like he's just slandering his competition

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marc scott emory said...
We have sources in the business that have told us this is what the "industry" now believes is the case







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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5282993 - 02/09/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5283001 - 02/09/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i still think this would be the perfect time to sell overgrow t-shirts


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: eligal]
    #5283003 - 02/09/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5283049 - 02/09/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've heard from our contact that RC has been released
I should have a statement for you soon but I can confirm for now that the servers
were turned off by RC so theres no IP log's
recent report's on Cannabis Culture that RC had fled are totally wrong
The DEA is not involved, only the RCMP. The charges relate to RC's seed business alone and the servers regarding CW/OG are thus far not siezed.

it has been further confirmed by two other people that know RC and are OG members that
they have spoken to him, I'm waiting for info to post that will hopefully clear up this matter

but for now I think we need to kill the speculation as it helps no one

To clarify the charges. "Seeds" are considered part of the marijuana plant under Canadian law (Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act)

If you get caught importing or exporting either the buds themselves or significant quantities of seeds, it's considered importing / exporting marijuana, which is exactly what RC has been charged with.

as far as we know and from what RC has said the OG and CW servers havn't been touched
and this has mostly been confirmed by various sources during the week inc myself
who have been monitoring the servers and checking them frequently
as far as we can see the servers are still where they were just turned off and RC confirmed he did this before the bust


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5283061 - 02/09/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i went to highschool with jodie - she used to be steampunk/goth, marc used to send us pot and send her cash... She gave me my first line of blow.

Interesting trivia.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: PDU]
    #5284687 - 02/10/06 05:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Priz i thought RC was in montreal not ontario


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: Ramlaen]
    #5284952 - 02/10/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/sh...o=&fpart=9&vc=1

bottom page, it says: Because, idiot, RC lived in Montreal. This news article is out of Ontario. CC was speculating that maybe is Richard Boucher was Richard Calrizian, but later verified that it was not.


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5284957 - 02/10/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

theres too much bullshit to this story. and its starting to stink...


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Re: The Overgrow situation-- an elaborate hoax? [Re: creamrocks]
    #5285419 - 02/10/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you check the garbage can? maybe you left some fish skins in there... or your dog farted.... :lol:


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