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Difference between Spawn and Casing
    #5235102 - 01/28/06 12:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

This may sound like a dumb question.
When you "spawn" wbs to poo, do you need to treat it like a casing?
Doc's WBS tec says to put verm on the bottom layer of a casing, and this is the only place where I have read this, but he simply says, yields are higher if you spawn to poo, straw, or both.

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Fraggin]
    #5235119 - 01/28/06 12:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

all questions sound dumb to the person asking them, in reality, it's the answers that are stupid  :smirk:


spawning is when you add colonized substrate to another source of nutrition like the horse poo or more grains.

casing is simply providing something with more water for them mycelium, there
should be nothing with nutrition in a casing, as for docs tek, I advise against
using vermiculite on the bottom, only a top casing layer, avoid straw if you can
you can find it to be a great source of contams if not done properly

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5235145 - 01/28/06 12:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

so, say someone spawns colonized WBS to some Hpoo (not bulk, like a 9inch container), is there a need for a casing layer? And if you spawn, then case, is it considered a casing?

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5235158 - 01/28/06 12:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

A casing layer encourages fruiting and enhances yield potential in many, but not all, cultivated mushrooms. Casing is required by Button Mushrooms for instance, but not Psilocybe Cubensis but yields clearly enhanced with one.

Four functions could be described to the casing layer:
1. To protect the colonized substrate from drying out, for instance the rye grains or a crumbled rice cake.

2. To provide a humid micro climate for primordia formation an development.

3.To provide a water reservoir for the maturing mushroom.

4. To support the growth of fruitification enhancing microorganisms.

All info from Paul Stamets excellent book "The Mushroom Cultivator"

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Fraggin]
    #5235172 - 01/28/06 12:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Fraggin said:
so, say someone spawns colonized WBS to some Hpoo (not bulk, like a 9inch container), is there a need for a casing layer? And if you spawn, then case, is it considered a casing?




theres not a need but it seldom hurts, once it's cased it's a bit of both and technicly it's bulk too... see, the answers just get dumber :smile:

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5235186 - 01/28/06 12:54 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you guys for clearing that up for me...
I just got back from the horse patch, and my wife tells me I smell like horse shit...
I jokingly replied "But I washed my dick off"
LOL
GtG shower now.
Thanks guys.

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Fraggin]
    #5281457 - 02/09/06 11:30 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

One thing that I am still not clear on. When spawning to a bulk substrate, it is not necessary to add a casing layer, but if one does decide to add a casing layer, is ok to add one right after mixing in the colonized grain into the bulk substrate, or is it imperative to wait until everything is fully colonized?

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Fraggin]
    #5281469 - 02/09/06 11:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

you need to wait til the bulk substrate is fully colonized before adding a casing layer!~

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Re: Difference between Spawn and Casing [Re: Fraggin]
    #5281477 - 02/09/06 11:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Wait until the poo is colonized...usually 3 days of total darkness is sufficient. Then once you're sure it's colonized add your casing layer and fruit the sum-bitch. :-D From what I've read, poo generates a lot of heat so incubation might not be necessary if your room is already warm. Make sure you cover it with some hole-punched tin foil for gas exchange.

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