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 Anno
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 P. cubensis "Ecuador" on birdseed cased 
#528046 - 01/22/02 08:42 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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3 Ecuador cased on 3 days. The casing material is peat, coco coir, vermiculite and limestone.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#528057 - 01/22/02 09:07 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice work again Anno....wirklich schoen. I hope to one day have as much success as you....wow..I also think I need to buy one of those Antonius things from IKEA, seems to be perfect for this use.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#528128 - 01/22/02 10:25 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very nice Anno. As usual.
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#528335 - 01/22/02 02:50 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great pic's.
thanks for sharing.
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#528875 - 01/23/02 05:17 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anno,
You inspire me....truely awsome.
Those look so picture perfect.
Thanks for the help with mine....btw.
And thanks for posting the great pictures.
Can you give us a yeld weight on those?
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#528941 - 01/23/02 08:10 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yam-yam!!! very......mushroodelic!
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#528960 - 01/23/02 09:00 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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beautifull flush!
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: stefan]
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529028 - 01/23/02 11:02 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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anno ,srry this is off topic.. i remember seeing a post of yours a while back in which you mentioned a tek with rye grass seed / horse dung . i belive it was 90%rye seed 10%horse dung . I was hoping to try this , what kind of water ratio did you use ??
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529032 - 01/23/02 11:10 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anno - those mushrooms are only like 4 feet tall.
You need to hone your skills so you can get 3 tightly packed trays of 6 feet tall mushrooms before you can consider yourself a master cultivator.
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#529089 - 01/23/02 12:54 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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sweeeeeeeeet...
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529100 - 01/23/02 01:07 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Anno,
Would you mind explaining the casing material a little bit. Sounds like you'd get the best of all the worlds with the different materials put into one. What is the approximate mixture?
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5 parts peat based potting soil
5 parts vermiculite
5 parts coco coir
1 part limestone
1 part oystershells
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529120 - 01/23/02 01:28 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks for the post!
Have you been having some sucess with this casing mixture? I have been debating the idea in my head for a little while and never really saw anyone use it before in the boards that I've browsed through.
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>Have you been having some sucess with this casing mixture?
Don?t the pictures speak for themselves?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529249 - 01/23/02 04:12 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think I'm going to start calling your projects Annonized.
Those are some nice Annonized Ecuadors!
I'll see if the name catches.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529698 - 01/24/02 12:55 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I want to become your apprentice. You are the man! When are you coming out with your book?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Swami]
#529744 - 01/24/02 01:42 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Anno, from your variations ....what makes a bigger factor? The nutrients in the substrate or the casing?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Swami]
#529833 - 01/24/02 04:24 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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>When are you coming out with your book?
The book is already writen, but not by me.
Its title is The Mushroom Cultivator by Paul Stamets.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529847 - 01/24/02 04:51 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are some SWEET Annonized Ecuadors!
lmfaooooo Josh.....think it will stick ?
Great job as always Anno.....your my inspiration.
I cased my EQ's btw....thanks again for your insightful help.
Take care Annovator!
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#529872 - 01/24/02 05:54 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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You Rock Wilson!
what substrate did you use?
was it a multi-spore innoculation or an isolate?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: 40oz]
#529908 - 01/24/02 07:21 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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An isolate on birdseed.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#530051 - 01/24/02 10:14 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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The first casing is picked, 2 of them still to go.
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Roadkill]
#530193 - 01/24/02 01:08 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Anno, from your variations ....what makes a bigger factor? The nutrients in the substrate or the casing?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
#530220 - 01/24/02 01:56 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh, I see i missed the question further up.
The substrate and it?s depth makes the bigest difference. The fruits at these casings are plentyfull, but relatively small. On the second flush there are usually less mushrooms, but those being larger.
If you want big mushrooms, go with straw or compost or pasteurized dung.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#530744 - 01/25/02 02:11 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks Anno, your responses always help out a lot! Just had one more thing in mind right now. From whats been happening, I seem to be spending a lot more time on preparing substrate, and only 10% of it actually gets cased. I made like a whole bunch and so much has been tossed out mostly a problem on my part. Im going to work on adjusting temperature and all that.
My question: 1) Have you worked with Treasure Coast strain?
2) I took a spore print from a larger than usual shroom of a treasure coast. If I use this print, will the ones that come from it be just as big as this?
I have this strain but I want to know if you recommend me changing over to Equador. Oh yeah and my Puerto Ricans are all messed up, I gave up on them (but may make a spore print just for later 
Just understand that I've been doing this for a few months now, im getting better at it. Not a newbie , cause I know most of the stuff about this.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
#530768 - 01/25/02 02:56 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heritability and environmental factors for genetic variability... a very in depth subject.
Answer to ?#2: Maybe
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
#530788 - 01/25/02 04:11 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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>I took a spore print from a larger than usual shroom of a
>treasure coast. If I use this print, will the ones that come
>from it be just as big as this?
Depnds on substrate and other factors.
I grew the same Ecuador isolate at pasteurized dung, and it gave me just a few but monster shrooms.
On birdseed it gives many small fruits. But don?t forget - the genes in the spores of both shrooms - being grown on birdseed or dung - are identical, if grown from an isolate.
So even from a small print you can obtain monster shrooms with the right choice of substrate.
On the other hand, why would a few big mushrooms be more desirable than many small ones?
Edited by Anno (01/25/02 09:20 AM)
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 Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#530794 - 01/25/02 04:30 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats a good point about how it doesn't really matter whether the fruits are big or not. I just need a bigger yield for the size im getting. Most likely the factors such as substrate or casing can greatly increase mass yield. But thanks Anno. One good thing is getting a whole bunch of spores from the bigger cap, although it doesn't really make a big difference since there are so many in each print anyway.
Im gonna try buying Antonius cabinet tomorrow, wish me luck in find it. hehe.
So what experience do you have with Treasure Coast anyway?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
#530923 - 01/25/02 10:25 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Last tray:
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#530968 - 01/25/02 11:41 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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 I hate you anno
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#531002 - 01/25/02 12:34 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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You got quite a tray there A+++
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#531019 - 01/25/02 12:52 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Verryy purdy Anno!!!
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Olgualion]
#531402 - 01/25/02 08:40 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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whats the room temp, Anno?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#531520 - 01/25/02 11:08 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same casing soil as my 50/50+ mix except you've added the Coco coir.....
I really need to look into this stuff, I keep seeing so many posts using it.
What substrate did you use?
Nice looking mushrooms/pic as usual Anno..thanks for sharing 
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#531534 - 01/25/02 11:21 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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btw - excellent work anno - as if that's somethin new for you
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: geokills]
#531635 - 01/26/02 01:32 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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You could try the fractional sterilsation:
A sterilisation method used to destroy bacteria and spores in preparation of grain spawn(rye, what, birdseed...) which requires no pressure cooker. In this case, the jars fitted with a filter or a polyfil lid filter are boiled or steamed 212?F (100?C) for 30 min in a covered pot, three days in a row. Between the boiling steps the jars are best kept warm, around 30?C, to allow the remaining spores to germinate. The basic principle behind this method is that any resistant spores should germinate after the first heating and therefore be susceptible to killing during the second and third heating.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#532181 - 01/26/02 03:32 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks for that method... makes sense but also sounds like it'd take some effort
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#532342 - 01/26/02 07:11 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Anno,
What's the matter with the pair (?) of shrooms in the upper right corner? Looks like one growing out of a cap????
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#532871 - 01/27/02 10:35 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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what's your substrate? and the depth..
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: SumGuy]
#532873 - 01/27/02 10:37 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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nevermind i just read up again
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: jokerGD]
#533691 - 01/28/02 04:31 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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>What's the matter with the pair (?) of shrooms in the upper
>right corner? Looks like one growing out of a cap????
Yes, it was a mutant, conjoned siamese twins.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#533695 - 01/28/02 04:43 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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5 parts peat based potting soil
5 parts vermiculite
5 parts coco coir
1 part limestone
1 part oystershells
what else was in the peat based potting soil and if it's not too much trouble what are the approximate measurements? If I could find itin the states what is the brand name? Would 5 parts plain sphagnum peatmoss work just as well? did you sterilize or just mix and case? Thanks
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: TeRzMaStA]
#533845 - 01/28/02 10:29 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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>what else was in the peat based potting soil and if it's not
>too much trouble what are the approximate measurements?
white peat, black peat, limestone
>I could find itin the states what is the brand name?
I?m not in the strates.
>Would 5 parts plain sphagnum peatmoss work just as well?
Yes, most likely.
> did you sterilize or just mix and case?
Sterilize in the pressure cooker.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#534130 - 01/28/02 03:23 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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back to your talking about substrate - do you find that despite growing bigger shrooms - bulk substrates actually yield less in terms of weight?? If you had say 500mls of colonised birdseed and 500mls (as an example) of manure i would be right in saying that you'd get far fewer but bigger mush off the manure but that weight wise your better off on millet?
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Exactly.
The good thing is that you can prepare bigger amounts of bulk substrates in a shorter time, and that they are cheaper than grains (pasteurising straw for instance)...
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#536138 - 01/30/02 04:44 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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i want some Ecuadors! They are beautiful, and look like the fruit a lot. .. (course everything fruits a lot with Anno). How do they do on BRF/Verm?
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>How do they do on BRF/Verm?
Also perform very nicely.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#538362 - 02/02/02 03:33 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heya Anno.
Do you work with the Ecuador strain often? I want to find a strain that works for me.. I'm going to try alot of the cubensis strains. So far I've only fruited B+ and TC, I liked B+ but I don't like TC very much, the ones I fruited were very small.
Next up are tassies.. how are these like?
Oh, and where do you live, if not in the states?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Brugman]
#538382 - 02/02/02 04:24 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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>Next up are tassies.. how are these like?
I only grew them once, the cases birdseed produced really big mushrooms but only a few. But generally I read good things about them.
>Oh, and where do you live, if not in the states?
Austria.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#538615 - 02/02/02 01:22 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Second flush. As predicted the fruits are less but bigger.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#538652 - 02/02/02 02:35 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dear Lord! What is the height of that shroom in the middle, like a foot tall? Damn Anno, if there ever was a Shroom Olympics I would be testing yours for steroid abuse. Damn, good job man.
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Split]
#538721 - 02/02/02 04:03 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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MWAHAHAHAHAHAH
hes reaching up to grab a piece of himself like homer when he was a donut...
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#538816 - 02/02/02 06:58 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey anno ill trade you something for a print of that huge one?
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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
#549014 - 02/12/02 02:03 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey man id like to get a print off of you also. Pm me if you wanna hook me up or trade. Peace
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