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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #529872 - 01/24/02 05:54 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

You Rock Wilson!
what substrate did you use?
was it a multi-spore innoculation or an isolate?


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: 40oz]
    #529908 - 01/24/02 07:21 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

An isolate on birdseed.

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #530051 - 01/24/02 10:14 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

The first casing is picked, 2 of them still to go.


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Roadkill]
    #530193 - 01/24/02 01:08 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Anno, from your variations ....what makes a bigger factor? The nutrients in the substrate or the casing?


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
    #530220 - 01/24/02 01:56 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, I see i missed the question further up.

The substrate and it?s depth makes the bigest difference. The fruits at these casings are plentyfull, but relatively small. On the second flush there are usually less mushrooms, but those being larger.

If you want big mushrooms, go with straw or compost or pasteurized dung.

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #530744 - 01/25/02 02:11 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Anno, your responses always help out a lot! Just had one more thing in mind right now. From whats been happening, I seem to be spending a lot more time on preparing substrate, and only 10% of it actually gets cased. I made like a whole bunch and so much has been tossed out mostly a problem on my part. Im going to work on adjusting temperature and all that.

My question:  1)  Have you worked with Treasure Coast strain?
                      2)  I took a spore print from a larger than usual shroom of a treasure coast. If I use this print, will the ones that come from it be just as big as this?


I have this strain but I want to know if you recommend me changing over to Equador. Oh yeah and my Puerto Ricans are all messed up, I gave up on them (but may make a spore print just for later :wink:

Just understand that I've been doing this for a few months now, im getting better at it. Not a newbie , cause I know most of the stuff about this.


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Edited by mrdasani (01/25/02 02:25 AM)

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
    #530768 - 01/25/02 02:56 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Heritability and environmental factors for genetic variability... a very in depth subject.

Answer to ?#2: Maybe

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
    #530788 - 01/25/02 04:11 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

>I took a spore print from a larger than usual shroom of a
>treasure coast. If I use this print, will the ones that come
>from it be just as big as this?
Depnds on substrate and other factors.
I grew the same Ecuador isolate at pasteurized dung, and it gave me just a few but monster shrooms.
On birdseed it gives many small fruits. But don?t forget - the genes in the spores of both shrooms - being grown on birdseed or dung - are identical, if grown from an isolate.
So even from a small print you can obtain monster shrooms with the right choice of substrate.

On the other hand, why would a few big mushrooms be more desirable than many small ones?



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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #530794 - 01/25/02 04:30 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Thats a good point about how it doesn't really matter whether the fruits are big or not. I just need a bigger yield for the size im getting. Most likely the factors such as substrate or casing can greatly increase mass yield. But thanks Anno. One good thing is getting a whole bunch of spores from the bigger cap, although it doesn't really make a big difference since there are so many in each print anyway.

Im gonna try buying Antonius cabinet tomorrow, wish me luck in find it. hehe.

So what experience do you have with Treasure Coast anyway?


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: mrdasani]
    #530923 - 01/25/02 10:25 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Last tray:


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #530968 - 01/25/02 11:41 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

:shocked: I hate you anno 

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #531002 - 01/25/02 12:34 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

You got quite a tray there A+++

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #531019 - 01/25/02 12:52 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Verryy purdy Anno!!!

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Olgualion]
    #531402 - 01/25/02 08:40 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

whats the room temp, Anno?


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #531520 - 01/25/02 11:08 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Same casing soil as my 50/50+ mix except you've added the Coco coir.....
I really need to look into this stuff, I keep seeing so many posts using it.
What substrate did you use?

Nice looking mushrooms/pic as usual Anno..thanks for sharing :smile:


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #531534 - 01/25/02 11:21 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

btw - excellent work anno - as if that's somethin new for you :wink:
 


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: geokills]
    #531635 - 01/26/02 01:32 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

You could try the fractional sterilsation:

A sterilisation method used to destroy bacteria and spores in preparation of grain spawn(rye, what, birdseed...) which requires no pressure cooker. In this case, the jars fitted with a filter or a polyfil lid filter are boiled or steamed 212?F (100?C) for 30 min in a covered pot, three days in a row. Between the boiling steps the jars are best kept warm, around 30?C, to allow the remaining spores to germinate. The basic principle behind this method is that any resistant spores should germinate after the first heating and therefore be susceptible to killing during the second and third heating.

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #532181 - 01/26/02 03:32 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for that method... makes sense but also sounds like it'd take some effort


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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #532342 - 01/26/02 07:11 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Anno,

What's the matter with the pair (?) of shrooms in the upper right corner? Looks like one growing out of a cap????

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Re: Ecuador phases [Re: Anno]
    #532871 - 01/27/02 10:35 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

what's your substrate? and the depth..


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