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youngblood
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Please Help
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Ive never grown shrooms before, but i have grown weed so i know what it takes to preserve something keep it alive and healthy. I want to move on to growing shrooms. Ive read tones of forums FAQs and cultivation stuff. only thing is when i read these i am completely lost. the hell is a spore and why do i need all the rice? OK you see where i am. I'm really out here and all the help i can get is needed. thanks every one and glad to be here now
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c_glidden
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Sounds like you havent read enough. Read tones more... all the teks and basics of cultivation. Click the "Wiki" link up top on this site, its a great resource as well as the forums and FAQ.
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tiny_rabid_birds
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You should probably do some reading on the basic life cycle of the mushroom. Fungi reproduce via spores, which are kinda like a cross b/t pollen and seeds, in that they're the means with which fungi propogate themselves. Mushrooms open up their caps and spores drop from the underside. This is where you get spore prints and how you make spore syringes. Spore syringes are used to inocculate a jar full of a suitable substrate so that the spores can germinate and form a network of mycelium (a white fuzzy, rhyzomorphic growth that looks like mold). The network of mycelium acts as something of a transportation unit, in that it transports nutrients present in the substrate, to the fruiting bodies themselves.
Read that, let it soak in a bit so that you may fully understand what goes into the growth of a mushroom.
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musher_420
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If you read everything from the I"IT'S EASY" link in my sig you really can't go wrong with growing. But of course to do anything well you have to understand why your doing it. Searching always pays off.
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tiny_rabid_birds
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This is a reply I just made to another new cultivator. It gives links to several essential teks for growing grain based casings, and is a good place for anyone to start out, rather than fucking w/ PF tek:
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Erm... have you tried the cultivation information from the site? http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/3 That's got all kinds of teks, pictorials, and FAQs.
Do you know what sort of grow you want to do? Many beginners start out with the PF tek, but there's really no reason to as it yields so little and requires just as much work as any other tek. Personally I'd advise you look into the fool proof WBS method , as whole grains are higher in nutrients and offer better yield with more potent fruits. You'll have to case the grains, so I suggest you look into the 50/50+ tek. That one doesn't have pics, but it's really just as simple as mixing ingredients together then apply a thin layer.
If you have access to horse poo and a pressure cooker, then I certainly recommend you utilize it (tek A and tek B), as horse poo will give you the biggest, most potent fruit, next only to compost engineered specifically for mushrooms.
Most of those have pictures, so hopefully you can do it all properly. But it's really not difficult. If you don't have a pressure cooker, I strongly advise you get one, as it'll make things that much simpler, and you'll know everything is completely sterilized.
Anyways, there you have it. All the steps are super easy, a child could handle them. There's just a lot of steps involved, so it'll seem like a lot of work. But you only get out of it what you put in. Good luck.
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thenewguy05
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Read this ~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23593 this ~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23805 this~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23536 this~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/26177 this~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7969 and This~ http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7969 you need the RICE FLOUR for nutrients. you've worked with things that need to be nurtured so you will have to be nutrtureing to the mushies by giving them the nutrients they need.
sounds weird at first but it will make you a better cultivator in the long run.
read and read and read more
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youngblood
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alright thanks all... so just from looking at all that, i figured out that you got to create your fungus... buy some spores off line ( they are legal in the us right?) i think im in the right direction ill keep doing my research before i go into the deep end with my first grow
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gourmetgrower
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I suggest starting off with something really complicated. If it's MORE complicated, there's LESS chance of it screwing up.
Or was it the other way around?
Seriously, though, start off with the PF tek or clone of said tek. This is in the wiki, I believe.
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Sparknutz420
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im pretty new myself man the best way i learn is thru trial and error i read so many teks my brain hurt and still didnt get it right the first time i say buy some spores and give it a whack and see where u go wrong and then study up on what goes wrong and try it again ya know just a coupla jars at a time so u dont waste spores thats workin for me im on my fourth attempt now and so far all is well in the 5 jars i inoculated, just a suggestion... dont mind me...
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Rahz
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Many people start with the PF tek. PF tek doesn't require a casing layer, and doesn't use a bulk medium. So, there's less STUFF to get. But simply because of the low yield, I wouldn't recommend PF to a beginner... or anyone for that matter. That's just my opinion.
I would suggest spawning wild bird seed (WBS) to straw as a first grow. I've had very dry seed, and really wet seed, and it all colonized, WBS is easy. Straw is easy enough to find, you pasteurize it (cook in water at 140-180 for a couple hours), add the colonized seed to the straw and let the straw colonize. WBS colonizes FAST. Straw colonizes FAST. Straw will only produce a few flushes, but as far as yield, it will be way more than the PF tek. Once you have a few jars of dried shrooms stashed away, you can take your time reading to discover the many different ways of growing.
Read up on "straw log" (though any shape will do)
One spore syringe will inoculate 4-5 quart jars of wild bird seed. This will be plenty for your first grow, but you'll want to read up on liquid culture (LC) at some point, or even use a LC on your first grow. LCs will give you many syringes from a single syringe.
WBS will colonize at room temp, but it's slower. Read up on incubators (TiT= tub in tub). Avoid using heating blankets, they can dry your jars out and stop growth.
Read everything you can in the "mushroom information" link at the very top, but don't neglect the forum search, it's very useful. It defaults to searching only posts from the last month, I'd recommend setting it to at least a year to get better results. Also, at the very bottom of an forum page, there's a list of "related threads". These links can be VERY useful.
If you don't have a pressure cooker (PC) get one. It's the one piece of equipment that you really wan to have, even if you don't know it yet. Boiling a batch of jars is a roll of the dice for most people, using a PC will make a LOT of difference. You can find a cheap one for 30 bucks or so. Even if you're doing PF tek which uses half pints, make sure the PC you buy is big enough to hold quart jars.
Whatever tek you pick, follow it exactly. Deviating from a tek is called "experimenting", and may not work out well. Once you have shrooms, experimenting is fun; before you have shrooms, experimenting can suck.
I'm sure I repeated some of this stuff, just some thoughts, hope this helps.
Rahz
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Wronguy
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Welcome to the Shroomery Youngblood. Glad to have you. You mentioned that you have read all of the "tons of forum FAQ and cultivation stuff" yet you still have some basic questions that are answered in detail in these areas. Unfortunately, I think you need to do just a little more reading.
Spend some time reading and apply your knowledge. Plan your grow based on your newfound knowledge and try to keep your questions confined to specific areas of need. Some of our members have given you some answers, so you're already ahead of the game. We're all here to help you, but first you have to help yourself.
Good luck.
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Wronguy
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Please spend some more time reading and applying yourself. Thank you.
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