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There Was A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life...
#5277641 - 02/08/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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But only when he was dead. Kinda ironic, eh?
What a waste.
Edited by Lunatik (02/08/06 04:41 PM)
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Darkcloud]
#5277955 - 02/08/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The meaning of life is to live and learn, not waste away looking for an answer going past your eyes every day.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Conkerers]
#5280569 - 02/09/06 02:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why don't women ever discover things like this?
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5280620 - 02/09/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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because there is something called a "mall"
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: eligal]
#5280631 - 02/09/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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More of the same mentality I see.
The thought that it would be a woman cannot arise because the prejudice against women. It is assumed that a human is a man, that man do and discover all things -- this is, in social sciences, called male normativity. This means that humanity is assumed to be an essentially male entity, that women are the others (the different ones) and things are seen from the eyes of men. This is why men are usually filmed from below or not at all, this is why the camera focuses on women, this is why humans are called MANkind or MAN, this is why it would be an "exception" to the a priori "men do it all" if a woman discovered the meaning of life.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5280648 - 02/09/06 03:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said: The thought that it would be a woman cannot arise because the prejudice against women. It is assumed that a human is a man, that man do and discover all things -- this is, in social sciences, called male normativity. This means that humanity is assumed to be an essentially male entity, that women are the others (the different ones) and things are seen from the eyes of men. This is why men are usually filmed from below or not at all, this is why the camera focuses on women, this is why humans are called MANkind or MAN, this is why it would be an "exception" to the a priori "men do it all" if a woman discovered the meaning of life.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: TheCow]
#5280651 - 02/09/06 03:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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But to answer the original post. It doesnt matter if the person died, as it was only a truth to him. There isnt a universal truth to a subjective question.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: TheCow]
#5280671 - 02/09/06 04:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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there are many meanings of life, one of them is not to trouble yourself with question that doesnt have any answer
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: giz]
#5280734 - 02/09/06 05:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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giz said: there are many meanings of life, one of them is not to trouble yourself with question that doesnt have any answer
unless you enjoy the search for the answer
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: eligal]
#5281067 - 02/09/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah , i said trouble yourself, sitting ubder a tree and wonder about stuff like this can be good, putting a bullet in your head because you cant find the answer is something else.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5281353 - 02/09/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said: More of the same mentality I see.
The thought that it would be a woman ... blah blah blah...
it's an expression... relax!
God forbid that English language doesn't undergo a complete overhaul to satisfy the whims of the Political-Correctness Birgade...
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: TheCow]
#5281520 - 02/09/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheCow said:
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Lakefingers said: The thought that it would be a woman cannot arise because the prejudice against women. It is assumed that a human is a man, that man do and discover all things -- this is, in social sciences, called male normativity. This means that humanity is assumed to be an essentially male entity, that women are the others (the different ones) and things are seen from the eyes of men. This is why men are usually filmed from below or not at all, this is why the camera focuses on women, this is why humans are called MANkind or MAN, this is why it would be an "exception" to the a priori "men do it all" if a woman discovered the meaning of life.
I'm sorry. I didn't know you were masturbating at the time the post should've been answered. Next time I'll PM you in advance so that you can clean up and get ready for a proper answer.
Edited by Lakefingers (02/09/06 12:07 PM)
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: dr0mni]
#5281529 - 02/09/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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dr0mni said:
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Lakefingers said: More of the same mentality I see.
The thought that it would be a woman ... blah blah blah...
it's an expression... relax!
God forbid that English language doesn't undergo a complete overhaul to satisfy the whims of the Political-Correctness Birgade...
Well, you relax. If you don't like what I write then don't read it. Where did I imply that the English language should undergo an overhaul in relation to gender? It's not about PC, it's about deconstructing entirely typical ways of thinking. I could've approached it from many other angles, but the gender one, I knew, would be clear -- clear enough to show that the question and parable were not necessarily interesting in themeselves. Apparently it was not only clear, but frightening!
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5287943 - 02/11/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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this is why humans are called MANkind or MAN, this is why it would be an "exception" to the a priori "men do it all" if a woman discovered the meaning of life.
Ahh faulty etymology, the ultimate standby of the politically biased and philosophically shallow. As a matter of fact, "man" originally referred to all of humanity, both men and women. "Man" as a referrant of the male of the species is a later appropriation.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=man&searchmode=none
...Sense of "adult male" is late (c.1000); O.E. used wer and wif to distinguish the sexes, but wer began to disappear late 13c. and was replaced by man.
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Re: There Was A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Darkcloud]
#5312664 - 02/18/06 02:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was thinking about this and came to the forums to lend my input. for my basis, i used Shpongle's Nothing Lasts album for Inspiration.
nothing lasts but nothing is lost..
I think there's another part to that, as those two statements can leave a lot of untied ends.
to me, the meaning is this:
Nothing Lasts Nothing is Lost, But Nothing is Gained.
Everything we know will run it's course. We hold on to our memories with pride, joy, and even sadness. If that memory is lost, that means you'll never remember that it had existed, so is it really a loss? We all go through our lives seeking knowledge, wealth, friendship, and whatever we may find dear to us. Unfortunately, as the sands of time work their way onward, We become no more. Our wealth of knowledge, wealth, happiness, and our sadness are gone. If it wasn't for life, there wouldn't be death.
my mind really isn't there to get any deeper into the subject, but i'm welcome to suggestions and arguements for further thought
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5312823 - 02/18/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said: Well, you relax. If you don't like what I write then don't read it.
How do you expect someone to know if one does or does not like what you write until they read it? 
 Peace.
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If I should die this very moment I wouldn't fear For I've never known completeness Like being here Wrapped in the warmth of you Loving every breath of you
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: fireworks_god]
#5314863 - 02/18/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was just about to say that!
so what are you getting at Lakefingers? That we view reality through biased lenses according to culture, past experience, context? That's not news... and I don't see how it reveals anything particularly insightful about the parable. In fact it seems completely irrelevent to the parable if you ask me.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: dr0mni]
#5320292 - 02/20/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's called deconstruction. Obviously it revealed something as it was intended to, because it pissed all of you off. The point was that, and to show a different aspect. I'm here as a magician, to reveal things, if nothing were revealed you wouldn't have noticed it (as with most of my posts that are completely incommensurable with most of you).
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: koppie]
#5320317 - 02/20/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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koppie said: this is why humans are called MANkind or MAN, this is why it would be an "exception" to the a priori "men do it all" if a woman discovered the meaning of life.
Ahh faulty etymology, the ultimate standby of the politically biased and philosophically shallow. As a matter of fact, "man" originally referred to all of humanity, both men and women. "Man" as a referrant of the male of the species is a later appropriation.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=man&searchmode=none
...Sense of "adult male" is late (c.1000); O.E. used wer and wif to distinguish the sexes, but wer began to disappear late 13c. and was replaced by man.
No. This is not about etymology, not even syntax, but semantics.
Thank you for telling me about the etymology; I am aware of its early meaning in ancient Germanic and Anglo-Saxon. In fact, you might be interested in knowing it could also me "they". However, it's "original" meaning is beyond our speculation, and has no place in the picture I painted.
Please re-read my post with this in mind.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5320332 - 02/20/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wish I could percieve my meaning of life. But wouldn't you think you had no purpose if you knew? You know, like no-drive to excel in life?
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: inv3rse]
#5320376 - 02/20/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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From what I've seen, people wonder what the meaning of life is and hate the people that give them answers and despise the *answers* themselves. So, do you think you'd believe if you got the answer? You wonder what the meaning of life is because the idea's been implanted in your head. It's about a disposition, not a question, not an answer.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5324175 - 02/21/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah you revealed that I get irritated by Political Correctness. Especially when it detracts attention from the point of the original post which was about irony and the search for knowledge and nothing at all about cultural lenses or gender-dominence.
Your "deconstruction" didn't shed any light or reveal anything about the topic, but instead SWITCHED the topic all together.
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Re: There's A Guy Who Discovered The Meaning of Life... [Re: Lakefingers]
#5324191 - 02/21/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said: From what I've seen, people wonder what the meaning of life is and hate the people that give them answers and despise the *answers* themselves. So, do you think you'd believe if you got the answer? You wonder what the meaning of life is because the idea's been implanted in your head. It's about a disposition, not a question, not an answer.
That's a good point! I'm reminded of how Siddhartha wandered the countryside speaking to as many spiritual leaders as he could find and then tried all of their teachings. In the end he found no truth in any of their answers and set out to find it himself.
It just goes to show that just because you get answers doesn't mean that they will be meaningful or effective for you. It's about what answers speak truth to YOUR heart!
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