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A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes
    #5277275 - 02/08/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'll get straight to it.

I have a 400gig SATA drive that I want to access (read/write/execute) to between linux and windows.

FAT's out of the question because of the size, NTFS isn't really an option (I have Paragon's NTFS r/w drivers for linux but I don't know how well they'll compile under AMD64 headers) and ext3 isn't an option because MountEverything (Paragon software again) seems to crash on disks above 150gig.

That's been my experience at least...

Any ideas on a filesystem that both OSes can work with without making the CPU crawl, OS crash, or possible dataloss because the inode table or ntfs allocation fucks up?

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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5277348 - 02/08/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I run gentoo on AMD64 and have ntfs write support enabled in the kernel. I have no idea what this Paragon is.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: supercollider]
    #5277722 - 02/08/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I run gentoo on AMD64 and have ntfs write support enabled in the kernel. I have no idea what this Paragon is.




I turned on ntfs write support in the kernel and it said it was still experimental. and could only edit files as long as when it was saved, it was the same size... no new files, no deleting.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5277781 - 02/08/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yikes... i'd say partition that beast. split it down the middle, and make due with only 200GIG

seriously, i just got a 120Gig... and even I think that's enough...LOL

well in reality (nothing's ever enough) Tim "Toolman" Taylor - Uhg-uhg-uhg!


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5277984 - 02/08/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well I just looked it up and it says kernel 2.6.15 has ntfs write support except for creating files, so maybe that's not good enough for you.

However, according to microsoft.com:
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In theory, FAT32 volumes can be about 8 terabytes; however, the maximum FAT32 volume size that Windows XP Professional can format is 32 GB. Therefore, you must use NTFS to format volumes larger than 32 GB. However, Windows XP Professional can read and write to larger FAT32 volumes formatted by other operating systems.




So you can use linux to make a giant FAT32 partition. The only other solutions I can think of would be to split it up with NTFS one one side, a linux FS on the other side, and a 32gb partition to use as a go-between.

Another idea is, if you're not using Windows for anything too hardware-intunsive, just make the whole thing a linux system and run VMware under it. That's what I do in order to run Windows poker clients, and it works beautifully.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes *DELETED* [Re: supercollider]
    #5278323 - 02/08/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5278442 - 02/08/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

why not make a fileserver somewhere in your house if it is just to store alot of info on. gb/s ethernet cards should speed things up for you.

what is the application of the project?


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5296604 - 02/13/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you can read and write now to ntfs. it is experimental, but it seems to work.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: automan]
    #5296777 - 02/13/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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you can read and write now to ntfs. it is experimental, but it seems to work.




experimental means that you can only edit existing files.

not create new ones

check out mounteverything.com or paragon's website

they have a a neat little kernel module called ufsd that allows read/write/delete/create on ntfs volumes... I have that program, but it's slow.

fat32 would have been ideal.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5296836 - 02/13/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i use fat32 as a shared partition but i can read my reiserfs partition from WinXp with ResierFS explorer


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: debianlinux]
    #5297728 - 02/14/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i use the ext2 filesystem for extra storage, since i use linux more now anywas, and got the ext2.sys driver installed on windows, works like a charm, and no 4GB file size limit like with fat32...

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    #5298387 - 02/14/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5298423 - 02/14/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I like the reiser file system, though I don't currently use it. It does handle small files much more efficiently than most other file systems, and doesn't really give up anything for big files. No idea if it works with winblows...

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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5299799 - 02/14/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

changes are possible but not recommended. i don't make changes, that is what a true shared partition is for.

imo, reiser is perfectly suited for the desktop.


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Re: A Common Filesystem for 2 OSes [Re: blink]
    #5300269 - 02/14/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I use reiserfs - it's okay, although in all honesty, I cannot tell the difference between it and, say, ext3 and ext2 as far as desktop performance is concerned. I installed it for the hell of it.


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