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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: Trust. [Re: dorkus]
    #5285397 - 02/10/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I only can share my perspective on that.
As my trust was misused often in the last times, I tended to loose it completely. That went hand in hand with my love, shared for others.
Then I learned and went on a decision for a project that went very good so far. I try to be as open and love-full to every new stranger I meet in advance. I show the hurtings, that they perhaps unconsciously do to me and tell them. I see at their reactions if it matters to them and how they cope. That sets the next level of trust to take cause.
I give them a bonus in advance and if they misuse it, I will treat them likely and that can continue so far, that I cancel contact to them.
That is the way, how I have learned it. The big problem are people who strategely try to misuse you. They are hard to detect, but you will feel it deep inside of your heart and stomach, what can built reason even in the mind :wink:
:heart:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'


Edited by BlueCoyote (02/10/06 10:54 AM)


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Re: Trust. [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5285842 - 02/10/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"When the conversations get twisted does each word and gesture ultimately point to something that you're insecure about or haven't fully accepted yet? Ultimately leading to the thought that everyone is in on something (the something can be something as simple as feelings of self worth) that you're not? "

That is exactly what happened to me but somehow I have managed to get it under control and it no longer controls ME. I control it so I stamp all over it any chance I get. I would imagine you are in the later stages of this. Whatever your brain is telling you is fucking wrong. Get a job that makes you interact with people all the time.
It will suck ass for quite some time, but then you will realize that to put up with this shit at all you are very strong.


"Come to think of it, it's like a cycle wearing me so heavily down, destroying me to the point of being too humble. It makes me trust others more than myself down here. But still I fear that you all are in on something, and that breaks the basis of trust for me. People could convince me of anything when I've been knocked over and over, and winded up pale and weak as a leaf because there is no trust inside myself. There is not even a core. There is no me at all. It's like being erased and without some common ground to stand, a free fall. When I finally accept my self as hopeless, destroyed and braindamaged everything swithches like a mirror and I'm led upwards again, almost like given compliments and revealed good stuff."

Same here man for the longest time I thought I was nothing am going to do nothing and will be nothing and everyone in the whole world hates me. I thought if there is a god he must hate me so much that he is trying to kill me with pain. It is the opposite. I would imagine you are a very emotional person, like me. Remember this YOUR SUBCONCIOUS IS A PUSHY LITTLE ASSHOLE THAT WANTS YOU TO DO EXACTLY WHAT IT WANTS RIGHT NOW. It is just an instinct telling you how to survive and it ISN'T always right man. This society can be a very hard place to live, because it is based on the concept that all man wants to do is make money and he will be happy if he does. Money has no value what soever, except as a means to an end. You can go completely without it if you really wanted to. You don't HAVE to get married and have children, you don't have to feel worthless. As soon as you understand that societies concepts are not TRUTH, just ideas, you will be a much happier person


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Re: Trust. [Re: Dmonikal]
    #5285888 - 02/10/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The subconscious is just saying: eat, sleep, drink, fuck, run, fight, danger. The conscious thinking mind doesn't REALLY know what the subconscious is saying at all, but it CAN guide your entire life into misery if you are too aware of it. It confuses us because we have higher thought and the old instincts that all animals have and we have difficulty understanding what it is saying, because it has not too much at all to do with the "rational".


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Re: Trust. [Re: dorkus]
    #5286499 - 02/10/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Next, you might start picking up pieces of conversations and gestures and turn them into messages of being all one.  Then maybe you'll stop picking up certain words and every word and gesture ultimately  points to a message that we are all one.  Then maybe you'll finally stop twisting words and gestures at all and have complete freedom from pressures that you put on yourself and see interactions for what they really are.  Then maybe you'll gain complete social freedom and have the ability to spread smiles wherever you go and interact with people on a plane where there is nothing but love.  That's a lot of maybes though, all I know is it's what happened to me :heart: 


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I have considered such matters.

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Edited by Smoker For Peace (02/10/06 04:35 PM)


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