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very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna....
    #5276511 - 02/08/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What the mushroom says about itself is this: that it is an extraterrestrial organism, that spores can survive the conditions of interstellar space. They are deep, deep purple - the color that they would have to be to absorb the deep ultraviolet end of the spectrum. The casing of a spore is one of the hardest organic substances known. The electron density approaches that of a metal.

pretty neat i thought.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276528 - 02/08/06 08:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I couldn't figure out whether the mushroom is the alien or the mushroom is some kind of technological artifact allowing me to hear the alien when the alien is actually light-years aways, using some kind of Bell nonlocality principle to communicate.

also by him.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276546 - 02/08/06 08:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nifty  :cool:


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: adamj]
    #5276602 - 02/08/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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adamj said:
Nifty  :cool:




Nifty yes... but quotes like that make it very easy for critics to think he was a madman or a loon. :shrug:


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: Konnrade]
    #5276709 - 02/08/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I go to sleep for 6 hours, wake up, and the definition of fact is way different than I remember.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5276752 - 02/08/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm confused now, what are you talking about? :confused:


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5276755 - 02/08/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

arent all geniuses considered madmen?

i love it! and am now a profound follower of him... actually that came from an HUGE article he wrote about quantem physics and psychedelics... really opened up more doors in my mind... it was amazing reading... it was at the tryptamind website... i can get the link if anyone is interested.

elgr... what do you mean?


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"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276758 - 02/08/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

sorry i think i know what he means....

this is the part i meant as the "fact" everything else is just interesting and mind bending....

The casing of a spore is one of the hardest organic substances known. The electron density approaches that of a metal.


is that not true?


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276855 - 02/08/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I agree he's really interesting.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276858 - 02/08/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well, the implying that mushroom spors are sent from space as alien technology to open paths of communcation ..


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: kaniz]
    #5276866 - 02/08/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hey... it makes sense almost! alien/god who knows... but it sure sounds like one hell of a theory!


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"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276872 - 02/08/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

note: theory, not fact.

I think that is what elgr was refering to.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: kaniz]
    #5276900 - 02/08/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

right probably... but like i said i meant that the fact about....

The casing of a spore is one of the hardest organic substances known. The electron density approaches that of a metal.

is this not true?


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276902 - 02/08/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

and i know how elgr likes to bust balls as well... hes busted quite a few of mine!


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: kaniz]
    #5276914 - 02/08/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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note: theory, not fact.

I think that is what elgr was refering to.




It's not a theory, it's a hypothesis.

A theory is something which has been run through tests and has held true. Something which has proven to be most likely true.

In science not only are the two words not interchangeable, but to think that they are is to be forever thought of as a dumbass.

Of course in common language people tend to use the two words as though they were synonyms. It annoys the living hell out of me.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: Konnrade]
    #5276937 - 02/08/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

very interesting konrade... thanks for clearing that up for us!


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"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276943 - 02/08/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

so then learys thoughts on evolution... the formula that is printed on his death blotter sheet... is that a theory or a hypothesis?


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"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276976 - 02/08/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

As a general rule you can only call something a theory if it meets a couple criteria.

1. You or someone else come up with an experiment to test it. The experiment must have controls and should be thorougly documented and explained so as to be repeatable. You conduct the experiment and it holds true. The controls show that it cannot be due to a factor you have not explained.

2. You publish your findings. Other people, following your procedure for the experiment, conduct repetitions of the experiment on their own in order to test it for themselves. They find the same truthful result that you did.

Essentially if something gets to that point it's a theory. Although in reality the scientific community also likes to come up with a number of different experiments also. Ones that are specifically intended to try and disprove your theory. If those experiments fail to do so, then it's a lot less controversial to call something a theory.

I'm not very familiar with any of the prominent (or non-prominent) psychedellic figures, so I don't know if any of them ever actually managed to produce a theory.


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: Konnrade]
    #5277069 - 02/08/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

with 4500 posts.. how are you not familar with any prominent figures?.. specially leary?


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Re: very interesting fact about mushrooms by dr. terence mckenna.... [Re: agoutihead]
    #5277126 - 02/08/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've been lazy in that respect.

I'm often too preoccupied with the science and hard fact to go and read about the philosophy, experience, and history.


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