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OfflineFrancestheMute
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First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work?
    #5276430 - 02/08/06 07:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

OK i think i have all the supplies to get ready to do this. what i need to know is if i have the right supplies and if it will all work together. so i have some perlite for the bottom of the casing and some substrate that really never fully colonized for some reason (no idea). so Ive got a bag of that, sterile which ill post a pic of, and some potting soil for the top? its "specially formulated to encourage blooming". i also have a 40 watt florescent and a timer to come on for one hour every day. is that right? im not sure this. will work. anyways all supplies have been chillin for about 3 months and i want to see if ill get anything out of this. heres the pic of the "cake"



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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276451 - 02/08/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Going on color alone ( mycelium should be white , not brown) , and the fact you said it didn't fully colonize , and that its been sitting around for 3 months , It doesn't look good . Is that bag air tight ?

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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5276459 - 02/08/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Get that thing out of your house!


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276460 - 02/08/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

WELL.. there is a lot you have wrong here.

PERLITE ~ used as a water retainer for humdification. this should be nowhere near the inside of your casing. you place perlite under the pan or cakes to wick moisture into the air and creat humidity.

POTTING SOIL ~ is not what everyone uses. most of us use coco coir or vermiculite because it containes no nutrients and hold water like a pro. holding water is one of the main purposes of a casing.

LIGHT ~ a regular 12/12 light cycle is what most of us use. although test have proven that cubensis mushrooms will fruit with only a milisecond of light per day.

SPAWN~ If you never got this cake to fully colonize in the first place what makes you think it will work now??? Young mycellium is better to use than older weaker mycellium. 3 months is pretty aged, most cakes or spawn are less than 1 month old.

tweek you methods a little and try AGAIN.


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5276473 - 02/08/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd have to agree with everyone else, that substrate doesnt look colonized at all it looks like a brown mess


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: djalexr]
    #5276505 - 02/08/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well im gonna try anyways. with pics. it will be a miracle if it works. im def gonna try again.


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276512 - 02/08/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Your not going to try with that one are ya?


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276513 - 02/08/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

btw would a taller container create more humidity or should i use something about 5 inches tall? btw i just dont know the terms i just know how to do it.


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: kiss]
    #5276519 - 02/08/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

kiss said:
Your not going to try with that one are ya?




well ive heard that they can survive for months in a dark place (which is were theyve been. maybe ill have a shroom. its sterile with a breather thing.


also how about grinding up timothy hay and mixing it with the soil. would that work or not for retaining moisture?


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Edited by FrancestheMute (02/08/06 08:21 AM)


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276531 - 02/08/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

if your lucky enough to get a mushrooms from that...(which BTW i guess your talking about invitro), it would be the last thing you'd want to eat! In fact...it could be the last thing you ever eat.

Take my advise my friend...always good trust me.
Gid rid of it, and start a second go round for your own safty, and who ever resides in the same house.

Is this from a kit?


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: kiss]
    #5276619 - 02/08/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yes its from a kit. its completely sterile


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276754 - 02/08/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well heres the pics of the final product.. what do you guys think?



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what the hell did you do???? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276820 - 02/08/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

is that PERLITE in the casing??? i can't even call it a casing cause there is no CASING LAYER.


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Re: what the hell did you do???? [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5276877 - 02/08/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You should really do a little more reading...

Really!


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Re: what the hell did you do???? [Re: Dr_Demented]
    #5276955 - 02/08/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

our FAQ section should become your best friend. Here, we'll look at some things you did wrong and need to read about.

1.) Your substrate needs to be fully colonized to spawn or case
2.) Perlite is for humidity uses, it has no purpose in a casing
3.) Listen to the other memembers (most of the time) their advice should be invaluable to you since many of us have been through this already.

You just need to spend an hr or so a day for about a week just reading. Hit up our faq section, in there you find numerous resources and teks to get you on your way. Good luck man, if i were you, id just toss that tray and focus on the next project.


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276965 - 02/08/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, If I had taken it that far, I would probably let it sit around to see what it did. But keep in mind that since your spawn wasn't colonized (it looked mostly not colonized) contams are likely. I'd chuck it at the first signs of comtamination.

Out of curiosity, you said this was a kit?

Also, it'd be good to determine why your spawn didn't colonize. What were the incubation temps? What did you keep it in?

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Re: what the hell did you do???? [Re: coda]
    #5276971 - 02/08/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ok i thought this was the way to do it. first perilite on the bottom, that crap was spread out over the wetted perilite and then i put a 50/50 soil and perlite on top. am i way off. i have read the faq but that was probably 6 months ago, and ive forgotten most of it but is there anything else i can do to make it work. ive got humitity and temp covered so we will just have to see.


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: Rahz]
    #5276984 - 02/08/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Well, If I had taken it that far, I would probably let it sit around to see what it did. But keep in mind that since your spawn wasn't colonized (it looked mostly not colonized) contams are likely. I'd chuck it at the first signs of comtamination.

Out of curiosity, you said this was a kit?

Also, it'd be good to determine why your spawn didn't colonize. What were the incubation temps? What did you keep it in?

Rahz




thats the thing the temps were probably too cold for it too colonize. how worm should it be right now in that pan..?


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Re: First shroom grow w/ pics, will this work? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5276996 - 02/08/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well if it didnt colonize then nothing will grow out of it, it makes no difference what temp you keep that tray at


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Re: what the hell did you do???? [Re: FrancestheMute]
    #5277013 - 02/08/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

In all honesty man i dont think there's anything anyone can say to you to save this grow.

You mixed up perlite with vermiciulite. It's a common mistake, but perlite doesnt retain moisture that well which is what verms main job is.

Also since you used uncolonized substrate you're going to need for it to colonize in the tray now before it can fruit. Since you removed it from its sterile enviornment, and it hasnt really grown much in 3 months, id bet that you wont see anything but trich grow on your casings.

Just start over man, it will be a lot easier and less time consuming then trying to save that casing.


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