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shrooma
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Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP
#5276306 - 02/08/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey I just inoculated 4 cakes and in 3 of them the BRF has turned to dough. I made sure they had the right substrate mix ratios. This problem occured last time I inoculated so I threw them out.
My questions are 1. Will they still work
2.Is the reason this happened because steam is leaking into the containers (they have holes in the lids and I don't think the alfoil is keeping the steam out).
3. To fix the problem next time should I place the cakes into a microwave safe plastic bag and seal before boiling in a pot (I don't have a PC yet).
Any suggestions or help is very welcome. Thanks people.
Shrooma 
 Notice the top one seems ok but they others are D'OH. You should probably enlarge the pictures to get a better look.
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FungusMan
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: shrooma]
#5276310 - 02/08/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What size containers are you using during sterilization?
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shrooma
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: FungusMan]
#5276315 - 02/08/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The containers are 250mL. I've been very successful with them in the past but I think perhaps over time they have slightly expanded and ar no longer very water/airtight. It's hard to find untapered glass jars around here.
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shrooma
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: shrooma]
#5276385 - 02/08/06 06:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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So nobody can help me with my problem??????????????????????
-------------------- "[More than] half the people in federal prison are there for drug offences. We're arresting half a million people a year for possessing marijuana. We're locking up kids sometimes for life for their first drug offence. We have no room in our prisons for rapists and child molesters and murderers cause we're filling them up with these non violent drug offenders." - Steven Duke, Yale Law School on 'Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way' -
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chubbmeister
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: shrooma]
#5276387 - 02/08/06 06:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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buy airtight canning jars it's getting too wet.
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Pr0_X
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: chubbmeister]
#5276415 - 02/08/06 07:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude...you are useing Waaaaaaaaay way way to much BRF if your containers are looking like that.
Ive over done it myself on jar's and they looked exactly the same, they will still colonize however. Nextime you'll want to up the substrate alot better and use a tad bit less BRF lol...
Just wait it will start to colonize.
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: Pr0_X]
#5276416 - 02/08/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Boat tape or less water......
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shrooma
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: Pr0_X]
#5276427 - 02/08/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Chubbmeister - yes I can understand that it's getting too wet but like I stated in my original post they are hard to find where I live.
Pr0_X - The ratio's I use are 50% Vermiculite, 25% BRF and 25% H2O. I normally don't encounter these problems.
So can anyone tell me whether putting them in a large plastic zip lock bag would work while sterilizing.
Guess maybe I might just have to experiment myself a bit this time...
Big Thankyou to FungusMan, chubbmeister and Pr0_X for actually replying.
EDIT: Thankyou to Juan_del_Pueblo aswell
-------------------- "[More than] half the people in federal prison are there for drug offences. We're arresting half a million people a year for possessing marijuana. We're locking up kids sometimes for life for their first drug offence. We have no room in our prisons for rapists and child molesters and murderers cause we're filling them up with these non violent drug offenders." - Steven Duke, Yale Law School on 'Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way' -
Edited by shrooma (02/08/06 07:25 AM)
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Pr0_X
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: shrooma]
#5276500 - 02/08/06 08:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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aslong as a suffiant amount of heat is being transffered to the substrate it shouldn't matter what your useing as a container. The container itself needs enough heat to sterilize it aswell however, just follow that and you shouldnt have any problems.
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Re: Just Inocculated, BRF has turned to BRF dough, HELP [Re: Pr0_X]
#5276686 - 02/08/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If jars are so rare to find, oreder some spawn bags. U can reuse those. If I were you though, I would just move on to grains. Alot easier than measuring this and that. Colonises faster too....
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