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#5276282 - 02/08/06 04:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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as some people seem to have problems to get into the original thread @ growlogs i decided to re-post it here in order to get the links in my sig working also added pics of recent monotub so it doesn't get too old 
recent monotub grow: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4976633
ey!
welcome to the original monotub thread
first of, thats how the whole thing looks like:

detailed instructions (there really isnt more to it ..) 1 get a nice tub, preferrably see-through. mine is from ikea.
2 drill holes in the box, 4 at top of CASING LAYER LEVEL
2.5 add two or more holes at top of the tub so circulation between the bottom and top holes moves the air around
4 stuff holes with polyfill, apply lid, wait, harvest 
and this is how it is looking 11 days later, never opened or misted or did anything to it:

and that's how dat sexy hookah looked at harvest day:

another tub done in similar fashion about a year later:

look at the 'final update' for all info after the harvest pic and for additional supasexy pixxorssss
now how it came to it: so maybe someone remembers me asking people over and over and over again to finally try the double tub concept adapted to one tub .. but noone did it.
so, if you wanna know something you do it yourself, right?
base was some colonised rye / millet prepared by my spawnbag tek (check link in signature for details) and spawned with agar.
after bag was 100% i sterilized 3 quart jars with vermiculite i saturated using a mix of 500ml alc free beer boiled down to 200ml and used water to thin it out, in order to feed nutes into the vermiculite.
that was mixed in the tub and let recover for a day.
next day, a mix of 60% verm 40% peat and some calciumcarbonate was nuked in the microwave for 10 mins, stirred and nuked again for 20 mins in a spawnbag -> after cooling was applied as a casing layer.
couple days later first myc breakthrough, patched by kicking around substrate, today again and properly msited with h2o2water and voila, made 6 holes, stuffed with polyfill, taped the lid on and now were waiting. peace ohm 
update casing layer is evenly penetrated and it looks as it wouldnt dry out too much. wonder how it will go on  peace ohm 
update 2 well some strange mutant blobshroor is evolving, besides that, nothing. casinglayer is evenly penetrated everywhere, im waiting for hyphal knots.
i should have hung a hygrometer in there, just for kicks. peace ohm 
update 3 guess what!
over night about 20 to 30 pins suddenly came out of nowhere  aaah feels so good that this baby didnt go to shit, i was alreadys tarting to feel sad of cutting holes in a nice binbut it seems that after all, it would work out !
i am curious if there will be more pins showing up and how these are going to develop 
so far, so good, yaaaaaaaay. peace ohm 
update 4 threw in a pic of the picset i took through the lid, not the best but it gives you an idea whats going on.
most of the pins look kinda, well, long n thin, i guess co2 levels are rocketing within that tub but who knows.
still the tub hastn been opened once  peace ohm 
final update so guys .. guess what, time went by and eventually this pretty weird project approached an end 
well, what shall i tell you, every single one of my expectation payed off perfectly and left me with complete satisfaction.
the monotub turned out to be as good, if not even superior to its big "brother", the double tub which inspired me to start the whole thing in the first place.
it managed its air exchange, kept humidity up and hell dig that, i even took the tub with me on the train b/c i wanted to see how it fruits and since i had to go home over holiday i wrapped the whole thing in newspaper and went on a psychedelic train ride for couple hours, lol dudes ill never do that again, ever ! 
(even though it was good fun telling tons of people that i was transporting turtles in the tub heh)
anyway, so, enuf of the blabla, on with the goodie goodie !
first off, i'd like to throw in an angled view of her goddess, showing her lovely babies:

lets take a little closeup, angled again, shall we, darn aint they sexy:

all of the fruits inside came in HUGE clusters starting up from 2 to 3 shrooms till whopping 10 or more, all perfectly formed with very few aborts sprikled.
take a look at these nice hats from above:

here's one of the most beautiful clusters the tub had, i saw it and had to take numerous pictures of it before picking it, so here you go, isnt it stunning:

her loveliness, picked:

and finally, since you people are all about it, here we go with a shot of the whole lot before i threw it onto the compost pile:

couple pics of a tub a did exactly like the one above, about a year later:


resummee: judging by how much work the tub involved (basically no work at all) and comparing it to how it performed, i must say that i am GREATLY surprised by how well it did and must add that it met my very own, actually quite high, standards.
the great thing about the monotub is, that once sealed, you will not have any contam from the outside ever penetrating the "polyfillshield" and therefor fruits from the tub should be the perfect candidates for cloning and alike, imho.
so, i hope this is another lil goodie i could throw in for the omc, i hope you enjoyed the show.
l8r guys. peace ohm 
*edit
agar had some useful input for people who cannot get translucent tubs:
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agar said:
 Some folks do mono tub grows. (w/filter covered gas exchange holes drilled in the tub) 4 inch substrate depth in tub bottom. Then, add spawn & incubate the tub.
Well, we all are guilty of PEEKING, every so often..
This is where contaminates can enter, gain a foothold & F/U the grow.
If you do monotubs.
It is a WISE idea to invert a large see-through trash can liner. OVER the top of the tub, held down with masking tape. Then, apply the lid.
That way, if/when you peek, no contam's can enter the tub. Once the substrate is fully colonized, simply strip the bag OFF.
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#5280785 - 02/09/06 06:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What size tub did you use? How many Holes? (What size?) (What Location?)
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Re: mono-tub [Re: Ramlaen] 1
#5317817 - 02/19/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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it is a lid that came with the tub. peace ohm
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#5341738 - 02/26/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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*update
added agar's idea on non-translucent tubs
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#5442167 - 03/25/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Ohm do you think you could put some directions up in your writeup for the tub setup? I can't tell you how many emails I get surrounding hole relation, size, and orientation. If you think 6 holes are needed, tell people why. What are the recommendations for hole orientation? How much space should between the top and bottom holes to prevent air stagnation? What size tub is recommended or not recommended?
These are just a few of the questions I usually get asked. If you could put together a pictorial of what you do and detailed instructions, you would own this tek for sure.
Just my two cents.
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Re: mono-tub [Re: Wronguy] 1
#5447632 - 03/27/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sure, ill do some writeup.
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#5967346 - 08/15/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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good thread
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ackmess] 1
#5972552 - 08/17/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cheers
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#5973611 - 08/17/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: mono-tub [Re: Sphere] 1
#6171117 - 10/15/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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ohm how do you aquire humidity in one of those.
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humidity is supplied by the evaporation of the casing layer. as it is at optimum moisture when the lid is applied, the air in the box will get humid by its evaporation and there is no noticeable loss through the polyfill, the lids will get condensation and drops running back down on the walls right back into the casing layer.
i additionally lightly mist the walls of the tub before i apply the lid.
easy as that
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#6389215 - 12/20/06 06:17 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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THANKS ohm - this tutor is awesome. I just hope i'll do it as good as you do!
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic] 1
#6695271 - 03/21/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Instead of polyfill, can one tape tyvek cut-outs over the holes instead?
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Hang on. Would the whole holes thing work for a fruiting chamber with cakes in it? Would a series of holes stuffed with cotton wool provide enough FAE to eliminate the need for fanning, while still retain humidity?
Because this would make my current grow plan a lot less stressful.
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram] 1
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yeah, but you'd need to figure out how many holes as well as the diameter of the holes to put into your specific chamber. Cakes need it to be around 95% humidity so put a couple small holes a day in the chamber until you start to drop a little in humidity down to 95% and you should be good. RR does something similar only with about 100 1/4" holes all over the box.
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram] 1
#6695540 - 03/21/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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exagram said: Hang on. Would the whole holes thing work for a fruiting chamber with cakes in it? Would a series of holes stuffed with cotton wool provide enough FAE to eliminate the need for fanning, while still retain humidity?
Because this would make my current grow plan a lot less stressful.
Cotton harbors contamination,polyfill does not
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Nickster_154371 said: Instead of polyfill, can one tape tyvek cut-outs over the holes instead?
One can, but tyvek doesn't breathe as well as an equally sized portion of polyfil stuffing.
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Is there any way to tell if your holes are giving adequate FAE? How would one know if the holes are overstuffed with polyfil?
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FAE is a major cue for pinning so if you aren't getting that many pins or if it's taking a long time to get any pins you probably need more FAE. Also, if your shrooms are very thin that's a sign of too much CO2 which means you need more FAE. Really you can't have too much FAE but you can dry out the casing if the FAE is low humidity.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6697323 - 03/21/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do you Sterilize the tub? My friend tried his hand at casing, and he cleaned the containers. but still got Trich on one.
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Re: monotub [Re: Myohmy]
#6698624 - 03/22/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did he get the ph of the casing to the right range? 6.5-8.0? That's how most contamns happen with casing layers. Did he have a good amount of FAE? If he had those two he should no doubt not have a problem for the most part with trich or any other contams of the casing layer.
But to answer your question, a lot of people use a lot of different things to clean. I know that bleach either only kills bacteria and not molds or vice versa. Either way I stopped using it for the most part and generally use rubbing alcohol to clean most things now. You can also use soapy water for most things but I find it a pain because you have to make sure you get all the soap out whereas the rubbing alcohol just evaporates within seconds. Also, just get the regular 70% rubbing alcohol instead of the 91%. The 70% works better because it has more water in it which allows the alcohol to penetrate the contaminates cell walls and kill the cell. Work fast
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6698769 - 03/22/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, i'm having trouble finding a good casing for this type of set up. My friend wants to do this monotub grow and see how it goes. but he only has certain materials. Can anyone help me out and give me a decent Casing Set up and procedure for these materials?
1. Rye Seed 2. Vermiculite 3. Perlite 4. Brown Rice and BRF 5. Quinoa Flour 6. Crushed Oyster shells (Flour) 7. Monotub 8. Peat Moss Potting Soil 9. Syringes
Sorry, i know this is asking alot. but after searching alot, i can't find a very good detailed casing procedure that has these materials. And would rather ask you guys for some help with this, because you know better than i do. Thanks.
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Re: monotub [Re: Myohmy]
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correct me if im wrong anyone, but with those materials given i would say use 40% peat, 40% verm, and 20% of oyster shells flour and you would be good. granted that you maintain the necessary moisture levels in the casing mix.
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that sounds about right. It's impossible to tell you exact amounts because of the differences in ph of different peat moss and vermiculite. Oyster shell flour is somewhat slow at changing the ph, but it'll do the job and keep it where you need it. just make sure it's flour and not grity or chunky at all.
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Sweet, thanks guys. i will let him know
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram]
#6705927 - 03/24/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry to bring this thread back, but I'm interested as to whether breathable surgical tape or some other such replacement can be used instead of poly-fil to cover 'breathing holes' made in a fruiting chamber.
Not to mention, why could cotton wool not be used instead poly-fil? Couldn't any problems with contamination could be sorted out by dunking the cotton wool in alcoholic cleaner?
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram]
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The reason polyfil is preferred to cotton for gas exchange is that cotton is much too ABSORBENT. If you're wearing socks right now, chances are that they're made of cotton for that specific reason - to absorb the sweat from your feet and move it away from the skin.
Polyfil is almost the opposite. Once it gets wet, it quickly dries back out. This is desirable for two reasons -
1). If nutrients and moisture remain on the filter, contaminants will grow ON the filter, which defeats the whole purpose of the filter.
2). If the filter remains wet, it will restrict (or even completely block) airflow.
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Ta very much.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6706601 - 03/24/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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okay so i have a 20 gallon monotub which i spawned to coir 12 days ago, which has been kept to incubate in complete darkness ever since.
now the thing is that i am going on vacation this coming wednesday and will be gone for 7 days.
so what i am thinking is to case the tub in the next coming days, preferably the day before i leave, and expose it to fruiting conditions while i am gone.
my question is, will i return in time to harvest? i know there's no way to be precise about this but i would like some advice from other monotub growers who've had more experience with the average duration.
any ideas appreciated.
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bumping because thread left main page.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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I have a quick question about the monotub...in what kind of space should the tub be placed for functionality? I mean, would this have the same effectiveness in a closet or does it need to be in a room with airflow coming through the sides?
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Shroomsbrrr said: I have a quick question about the monotub...in what kind of space should the tub be placed for functionality? I mean, would this have the same effectiveness in a closet or does it need to be in a room with airflow coming through the sides?
Any room with some air flow should do,just leave an oscillating fan in the room put don't point it directly at the mono tub or you may risk drying it out
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Oh oh oh! one more question! When i started i invested in a green house for the smaller casings I did, and for various other plants I own. I was wonderingif I took out a shelf, if it's worth putting a monotub in it?
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? there is no need
a monotub is it's OWN environment, it doens't need a "Martha" to do anything...
it needs to be put on a shelf, and left alone, come back 2 weeks later and harvest.
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i dont get it, you never opened it again but how did you add the plastic covering to colonize and how'd you add a casing layer?
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Re: monotub [Re: wutang]
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wutang said: i dont get it, you never opened it again but how did you add the plastic covering to colonize and how'd you add a casing layer?
i dont add a plastic covering... why would I?
and of course it's opened to add a casing layer. and to harvest. that's it.
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k thank you jeet i was a bit confused
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Re: monotub [Re: wutang]
#7418955 - 09/17/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I throw my flushs on to my compost pile too. Nothing beats recycling
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I run bubble bars pushing o2 via a pump in a few of mine, makes a little bit of difference. But never extends the amount of flushes, that's decided by the amount and type of substrate you use I would think.
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eatyualive said: and you said your not fanning?
the whole idea of the monotub is not having to fan it. otherwise i could avoid the hassle of cutting holes in it and stuffing them and and and ...
the tubs were never opened and did well.
and they flush just like normal casings do.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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yes ohm, i know this is the idea. but, as i stated, the lids on these tubs seal so tight,(iris clear stack) that fanning is required doing it this way. im trying to get input from you on how you might solve this? otherwise, fanning is necessary at least 1-2 times a day.
how many flushes do you generally get off these tubs?
just a rough estimate!
if you take a look i TAPED on the lid, it was shut totally.
thats why there are the polyfill holes, the co2 oozes out of them ! without them it would rot and go bad, with them, many many people have good success.
if you feel you need more exchange, add more holes, do 20 or shit lol, im sure youll get it going.
flushanswer was already provided above.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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The top of my monotub started contaming right after the first flush was harvested is there anything i can do to save it?
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Re: monotub [Re: Fnord]
#9850218 - 02/23/09 01:36 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fnord said: The top of my monotub started contaming right after the first flush was harvested is there anything i can do to save it?
once contams established, and in our hobby these are mostly molds, the rule is if you see it - its everywhere.
i tend to toss tubs if they show signs of contamination.
if you got the contam in a very small space, you could try spooning it out and applying lots of h2o2 around it.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#9850253 - 02/23/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: monotub [Re: BEEP]
#9901626 - 03/03/09 02:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks everyone! this answers a lot of my questions about monotubs, but i still have a few...
i would like to try a monotub right off the bat, since it looks like the simplest way to build a cheap low-maintenance home for growing fungus. (money, space, and time, are three things i do not have a lot of right now...)
however, it's been pointed out by several people that monotubs are more susceptible to contamination, and so for a newbie, it's a good idea to start with several small trays, so as to not to put all your eggs in one basket. (this way, if something does go wrong, there's a chance you'll be able to save SOME of your work.)
so, with this in mind, what do you guys think of starting several rather small monotubs at once? (instead of using trays and having to bother with perlite and fanning...)
is there a limit to how small a tub can be before it stops being automated? i would imagine that with a small enough tub FAE gets a lot harder.
any thoughts on a strategy for a first-time (metaphorical) grower?
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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how many holes would you put in a 54Qt tub
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Re: monotub [Re: mobcali]
#9936722 - 03/08/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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2 on each long side at sub level and two on each end at the top will suffice.
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Re: monotub [Re: mobcali]
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mobcali said: how many holes would you put in a 54Qt tub
standard as i did it always, 4 down 4 up, prolly works with less idk
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#9938739 - 03/09/09 09:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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mobcali said: how many holes would you put in a 54Qt tub
standard as i did it always, 4 down 4 up, prolly works with less idk
what size holes do you use ohm?
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bout 1 to 2 cm diameter, which is just smaller than an inch
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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1 to 2 cm . Is that for any size tube?
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Re: monotub [Re: mobcali]
#9943583 - 03/10/09 12:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes
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cheers, but what diffarance between the use of pillow suffing vs polytape?
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no idea what polytape is i just know polyfill lets air pass through rather easily which is why it is used here.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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i could only find 1in. will that work.
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#9952143 - 03/11/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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sure
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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nice. thanks
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Re: monotub [Re: mobcali]
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just wondering how do you rehydrate the sub after each flush?
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#9966805 - 03/13/09 08:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Put it in the bath tub under the faucet..
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how long do you put it under the faucet?
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#10095632 - 04/02/09 04:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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4 hrs give or take,a little longer or shorter shouldn't make that big of a difference
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when do you think i should harvest this tray
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#10095787 - 04/02/09 04:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Id get them all right now but you could wait a bit longer for the ones that are not open at all to open but by then the others may be dropping spores
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ok should i take it out of the tray while it soaks.
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#10098203 - 04/02/09 11:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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mobcali said: ok should i take it out of the tray while it soaks.
remove everything before you soak it, its cleaner this way and also removes pieces of stems and alike before which can possibly end up as contamination vectors.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#10098335 - 04/02/09 11:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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i got 240 g's how much do you think it will be dry?
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#10098424 - 04/03/09 12:18 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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usually dry weight is 1/10 of wet
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Ok so quick question here guys..
I know I've seen a bunch of various posts about different casing materials and what actually helps or not. Specifically I'm making a monotub setup with a bunch of cow/horse manure i find outside, then i was thinking i would let it grow without a case, and i know how much casing can help, but I'm still not sure about using a casing at all.
-QUESTION 1-I know that this MONO TUB relies on the moisture of the substrate and (i think) mainly the casing layer. (am i right?) - Does this mean that without a casing, the humidity wouldn't be enough? or would there be enough water in the substrate mix? What I'm probably going to do is just add PC'ed vermic as casing. (too much work to add more ph fuss) -QUESTION 2-How much time should I expect a casing layer to delay my project, for I am pressed for time. and finally.. there were some posts about trying this mono tub with smaller sized Tupperware, and it seems to be fine as long as the design and hole placement/size are adjusted. I just want to know, does anyone see anything wrong with a longer (arms length), less tall (10-12inches tall) plastic? To me it seems like this just wouldn't be able to give enough circulation from top to bottom? - If so... what's the smallest reliable setup?
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Re: monotub [Re: jingus]
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1.) the system is closed, all humidity inside will be delivered by EVAPORATION, if this is from your casing layer which is preferrable or your substrate which is not as good does not matter. id add the verm casing.
2.) as long as it takes, some spots break through first, some later, depends on how deep you do it. being pressed for time is NEVER good.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#10291149 - 05/05/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey nice tek!! but i have also have a question i am busy doing a monotub with hpoo but without a casing layer just layer hpoo with grain spawn. But do i need to mist if i do not apply a casing layer?
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youll lose moisture from the substrate that is certain, many people have good sucess without casings when using poo so i would just let it be and see how it goes.
intial misting of the walls wont hurt thats for sho
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#10292238 - 05/05/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: monotub [Re: xail]
#10362408 - 05/19/09 01:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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So say theoretically one has a monotub set up with a horse manure/straw/brf spawn substrate so that it is only ONE INCH deep. I know, too shallow... The spawn's been colonizing it for 3 days and is looking real good, but the mycelium is colonizing mostly all of the substrate except for a couple of spots that remain mostly manure/straw. Because its only 1 inch, should I case it to get extra moisture etc.? - the substrate is very uneven and I feel like casing would be even more uneven, giving an uneven pin set. OR should i leave it? -
Also, the mycelium is mainly in clumps from the original brf cake, and also (less) colonized in the poo, but has some bigger spots of poo/straw thats not so colonized. Should I wait until all i see is white? when should I fruit these?
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Re: monotub [Re: jingus]
#10362414 - 05/19/09 01:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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im always for casing and and uneven casinglayer does NOT cause an uneven pinset.
i can be all grooves and hills even like this if u want /\/\ the factor that causes and even pinset is the EVEN PENETRATION of the layer, nothing else.
so go ahead and case it, patch it till it breaks though evenly over most of the layer and get lucky.
and next time, do not use such a shallow substrate,.
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So I have a question about a monotub. I've done small 5 gal tubs with great results, and am now switching to larger tubs-66 qt sterilite with 4 one inch holes at substrate level, and 2 up top.
I'm using rye grain spawned to coir verm coffee gypsum mix.
The bottom of my tub is lined with black garbage bag that is not attatched to the sides of the tub (water is able to drain down the side of the tub and under the trashbag-wasnt this way during incubation, but I cut the bag down to size when fruiting). I don't think drying out is an issue, cuz my substrate was a little too wet to begin with.
What I'm finding is my fruits in my first flush are way tiny and a little fuzzy on the stems. I hear fuzzy stems are from high humidity. Could this be a fae problem? I have a fan running on low blowing next to the tub-not on it. Maybe I need more holes? Maybe just genetics, but I've been using other cultures from the same syringe and getting monster fruits in my mini tubs, I just want to move to bigger tubs for convenience. It's a lot of work doing all those 5 gal buckets!
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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nicechrisman said: I hear fuzzy stems are from high humidity. Could this be a fae problem? I have a fan running on low blowing next to the tub-not on it. Maybe I need more holes? Maybe just genetics, but I've been using other cultures from the same syringe and getting monster fruits in my mini tubs, I just want to move to bigger tubs for convenience. It's a lot of work doing all those 5 gal buckets!
experimenting with holes is always fun 
just mod it to your liking, if you are in a high humidity area already i could see this contributing to the problem possibly.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#11227717 - 10/11/09 04:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have a q...is the spawn mixed with Bulk sub like Poo or Coir or is it just Verm/peat? can u explain to me like...u kno what i mean....im a bit confused i wana do a couple Dubtubs soon i got cakes down myself but monotubs confuse me
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Bobomister said: i have a q...is the spawn mixed with Bulk sub like Poo or Coir or is it just Verm/peat? can u explain to me like...u kno what i mean....im a bit confused i wana do a couple Dubtubs soon i got cakes down myself but monotubs confuse me
if you use a bulk substrate you obviously mix spawn with your bulk substrate.
in the original tub i cased grains that i mixed with vermiculite with a verm/peat mixture. (shitload of grains)
i do not see what confuses you.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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between this and monster mitchs thread i dont see how it could get any easier
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Re: monotub [Re: oldmyco]
#14007067 - 02/22/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What are the aprox. dimensions of that tub? What size are the holes? Also how much spawn did you use? I have 3 bags, (about 5-6qt) of wbs done and will be spawning to coir/verm mix with a 1:2-1:3 ratio. I'm using the fine verm, but I saw others are using just verm for a casing layer....
So just to be clear (ive read many other teks) basically I cut the holes,and cover with tape, and mix the bs and spawn. Over with the clear wrap then put the lid on. when thats almost colonized you add the verm layer????
The in FC you remove tape, and use the pollyfil. haha Sorry for that long post. I just love that you can put this in fruiting conditions and just leave it whiout misting or fanning...
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you've got it 
take a tub, no idea of its dimensions. aim for a mix of 1q spawn to 3q substrate, and an overall depth of 3-4 inches. for any bulk sub, one handful (after pasteurisation) squeezed should be just letting go a drip or two any more, squeeze EACH HANDFUL individually itll save you lots of probs 
mix spawn with sub, put tinfoil on top, tightly, tuck it down VERỲ softly, poke some holes, cover the tub with a clean bathtowel.
let incubate, check, case if wish, plug holes with polyfill, mist.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#14008680 - 02/22/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesome. ill probably end up not even using a casing layer...
so after this just have an osscillating fan in the room, mist maybe once a day?
also im using damions tek for the sub. I need to look at how big these bags actually are compared to qt jars because I think theyre a bit bigger, ill probably need another coir brick
Thanks!
Edit, sorry I might have missed it in the thread but what size holes are you using?
Also, when you mix the grains and sub, with the holes covered with that tape, do you put the box in a black trash bag> Thats what I was told to do in the last tek
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no idea about hole size, larger than my thumb  and for colonisation i dont like plastic bags as they are airtight, put some dark blankets/clearn bathtowels over it if u must, they let some gas through,
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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No trashbag also no darkness during colonization. Do it this way.
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ProfessorPinHead said: No, the polyfil is for keeping humidity. You don't want to duct tape your holes. WHat we mean like " in nature" is simply that mushrooms don't thrive in an anaerobic environment.
The sun beats down and naturally pasteurizes manure or poo of mulch, or compost or whatever medium it happens to be.... Then mycillium can colonize it.
This does not happen in a sealed up environment without oxygen. 
The saran wrap seals the top and the polyfil allows filtered gases to exchange, allowing robust heathy growth.
Here is an example. This tub colonized all the way from 0% -> 100% in light with nothing but Saran wrap, polyfil, and a black liner under the substrate.

.... No outer bag, no duct tape!!!!!
I repeat myself. If you want good yeilds colonized all the way from 0% -> 100% in light with nothing but Saran wrap, polyfil, and a black liner under the substrate.
 
I'm not knocking anyone, trusted cultivators included, I'm just saying I know what I am doing.
I have been through it all. I have had contamination, poor yeilds, Over-hydration issues, Dried out substrates. .....
This process takes fine tuning to get down. I have been doing it for years and this is what I have learned to be true. I am a scientist and hold a research degree from a major university. I have been cultivating fungi since biology class during my undergrad. This is my advice......
Do with it what you wish 
-prof.
Thanx to the prof.
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What is the best depth for a monotub substrate? 4-6 in? Also if you used smaller trays in a monotub set up (to make sure one won't f all). Are there any mods you would recommend or basically the same set up?
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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Love this thread!
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Re: monotub [Re: yaknaw]
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#15134629 - 09/25/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Ohmatic, following your tek and have 3 different kinds of tubs/buckets colonizing my spawn/sub now at 5 days. Everything is turning white, its like christmas, I love it.
I have all of the holes taped up and towels over the containers just waiting for full colonization to switch to fruiting conditions. BUT In regards to Prof's message a few above, what do you think about having polyfil in with light for colonization the entire time?
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do u guys have fans blowing on the tubs? if so, all day or wat?
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Hey Ohmatic, following your tek and have 3 different kinds of tubs/buckets colonizing my spawn/sub now at 5 days. Everything is turning white, its like christmas, I love it.
I have all of the holes taped up and towels over the containers just waiting for full colonization to switch to fruiting conditions. BUT In regards to Prof's message a few above, what do you think about having polyfil in with light for colonization the entire time?
never tried it so idk, but as i am a fan of never changing a running system i dont think id even consider trying it
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I've gotten away with growing with less than ninety five percent humitdity, in one of those myco-grow chambers
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#17052830 - 10/18/12 05:37 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing this great tek going to try this for sure.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#17884888 - 03/01/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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great tek!!!
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#19186145 - 11/25/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is aweeome. Im gonna try a monotub with an ultra sonic
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no need for the ultra and it would probably make it way to moist in there
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#19190373 - 11/26/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bobbyphil said: That is aweeome. Im gonna try a monotub with an ultra sonic
no need for the ultra and it would probably make it way to moist in there
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Nice work, will try this myself..
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Thanks for the share! I have a couple spawn bags almost at 100% I can't wait to start my tubs.
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Nice
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If you are using an opaque tub you can add a window in the top with clear plastic and silicone sealer and/or duct tape.
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This works a treat. Such a good method.
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Nice one! Thanx!
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
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Re: mono-tub [Re: ohmatic]
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a great read. taught me some good tips
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Re: monotub [Re: bugman]
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i like this. many thanks!
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many thanks!
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cant wait to try this out when my spawn is 100 percent thank you for such a simple tek. Glad I won't have to mist and fan so much as being in the basement I'm already wary of contams
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OP, thanks for the detailed info. Likely trying this tek out within the next week or two with grow log expected
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Amazing,I've got a lot of work to do.
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Did you try this out, if so how did the results turn out?
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Re: mono-tub [Re: DrNice]
#22458064 - 10/31/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This worked with my pf tek brf cakes just fine
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great write up!
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Re: monotub [Re: xe0n]
#23677346 - 09/25/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is Good but I wouldn't be looking up info this old if I were you.
There's dozens of newer better teks out there in the last decade
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21448273
Look up things this old next thing you'll be thinking is that light causes side pins and other totally wrong things people used to say back then
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Seems good to me!
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Thank you
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No offence, but your tek is not clear. You say drill holes in the top, but I see no holes in your lid.
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you could look up teks newer than a few years old or the ones in the sticky posts at the top too.
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THANKS MAN
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Thank you for sharing this information. I am so grateful for this forum!
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Legend! Thank you
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yes ,it is
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you re welcome
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i agree
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Nice man
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Thank you man
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Re: monotub [Re: xail]
#26509467 - 02/29/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lovely
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#26509470 - 02/29/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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that's right
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Re: monotub [Re: xail]
#26509472 - 02/29/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you som much .great arcticle
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#26512690 - 03/02/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thankyou for this!
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