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Irreparable Mushroom brain damage?
    #5274488 - 02/07/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ever since I did shrooms I feel that something is wrong in my brain...but I cant put my finger on it. It gives me a certain uneasyness that frustrates me. Anyone in a similar situation?


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: GermanyMan222]
    #5274631 - 02/07/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe something is wrong in your brain.Perhaps the mushrooms just helped you become aware of what is wrong.

It could just be that your mind still hasnt completely recovered.If this is true,give it time and everything will be back to normal.

Try some meditation.


Edit:But you didnt receive any irreparable mushroom brain damage.There is no such thing.


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Edited by aNeway2sayHooray (02/07/06 06:48 PM)


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: GermanyMan222]
    #5274646 - 02/07/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe nothing's wrong at all? Maybe you're right in the head for the first time and have never felt this way before, therefore you think you're messed up.

Give it time, and like neway said, try some meditation.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: GermanyMan222]
    #5275080 - 02/07/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think it's damage. It's more like a different awareness, and ya sometimes it's fucking wierd and un-settling.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: barfightlard]
    #5275103 - 02/07/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe you had a slight mental unbalance to begin with, but you weren't aware of it until now. It happens to best of us. Acid made my brother retarted, and at the same time it set my mind free.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: GermanyMan222]
    #5275114 - 02/07/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Defintely not brain damage. More likely that it's some kind of unsettling emotion stired up during that trip, or something of that nature. You'll probably have to be more specific to narrow it down. Don't worry about brain damage w/ psilocybin, it's almost certainly something else.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: Twirling]
    #5275418 - 02/07/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It may be unlikely but it's possible that you are more prone to HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder), which occurs in some people with little warning. I think it may be wise to research this. It shouldn't occur with one psychedelic use but it has been stated, I believe, that it most often occurs in people who feel like something is wrong after the first use (persisting visual disturbances, etc.) but continue to use anyway. Take a long, long break and see if you recover.

I think that HPPD may prevent you from constantly using shrooms, but maybe once a year is more approriate.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: supersapien]
    #5275445 - 02/07/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

2ci fucked me up, I took it a month ago and havent been the same. My skin is super sensitive and even the slightest touch is uncomfortable... I also feel speedy and anxious. Oh well, all I can do now is move on, and all you can do now is accept what happened... become more accepting of how you are now, theres no way to take back time and the only way to see if you'll return to normal is to wait.. thats my take on this type of experiance.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: dubbyah]
    #5275661 - 02/07/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I know what a hard time some people can have with hallucinogens.

Some people are uniquely sensative to these drugs. Most people I know never have had any problems with hppd. The only people that got it happened to be those who took the drugs very seriously, for spitirual and educational purposes. The only people I know thatit has happened to was me and my best friend. We would only trip in the company of each other because, well, no one else could understand it the way we did. No one else had the kind of inspired capasity to speak about it. No one was doing for anything other than fun and visuals, and we knew no people our age that were very interesting and articulate.
It happened to both of us. For my friend it was because of the third time he took and eighth of the most choice shrooms we had grown(smaller, bluer denser shrooms). That was two years ago and he can still feel the difference in the way his mind works, and sees subtle visuals. I was already almost at that same point, and then did a 2 day ayahuasca session.

I think you grow into the new state of mind, I did, but it was hard on me. My new self tore into the old for weeks.

Its something about not feeling at home in your own head, and that can be very scary.
I dont think ill take another hallucinogen again because its always with me, and I have persistant visuals every day, all day.
I also learned more than ever from the trip that changed me in this way. It seems hard to believe at first, but the new state of sober mind, can be used to your advantage. If I didnt understand what had happened to me, or if I was afraid of it would have frustrated me, and Id be totally lost. What happens to people with hppd, is actually normal even for the most resiliant of minds if you trip on heavy doses enough times. If you get hppd and learned little about yourself and psychadelics along the way, it will most certainly bother you, and you might even seek help.
160 or so trips on(mostly acid),salvia, mushrooms, smoked dmt, dxm, salvia D, and then the big bang--->ayahuasca, just tends to do that to people.
The trips just grew longer and longer.


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: stemmer]
    #5275692 - 02/07/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You can bet your ass that every serious huasca using shaman, experiences hppd, it is expected at some point, always was.
MAny cultures of the past and even many serious users today consider it to be a gift rather than a curse. Unless you are living in the middle of the jungle with your tribe, totally seperate from the westernized world, you tend to look at it as a curse. Id imagine most people would feel that way at first.
Anxiety about it has some serious consequences. For one, but least importantly, it makes the visuals more intense.

I just thank god I never used 2ci or mdma, Im certain id be far worse off. The speedy after effect is way to uncomforitable to so many people, and the effects are so different than the classic hallucinogens. Id likely have stopped earlier, and never had the life changing experience that ayahuasca can fascilitate.
The types of after effects that I would experience after using 2ci(not all people), would just be too much for me. I tried 5 mg with lsd once, and I felt the speedy quality it had, noticed some really great things about it too. But I know how and why it would tweak some people for a long time, in a bad way.
Hppd is likely to most people, very different for those who only used the classical hallucinogens.


Edited by stemmer (02/07/06 11:06 PM)


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Re: Irreparable Mushroom brain damage? [Re: stemmer]
    #5278679 - 02/08/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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stemmer said:Unless you are living in the middle of the jungle with your tribe, totally seperate from the westernized world, you tend to look at it as a curse. Id imagine most people would feel that way at first.




Yeah... I'm sure HPPD was a huge part of the culture of old native american tribes, and many that still use psychedelics for religious reasons.

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stemmer said:I just thank god I never used 2ci or mdma, Im certain id be far worse off.




I haven't heard anything about MDMA being connected to HPPD, and I don't see how it would be considering that it's not a hallucinogenic. it's listed at Erowid as a euphoric empathogen, stimulant and phenethylamine. I've seen research indicating that it may cause extended depressions in some people though.


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