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CapCaptain
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Good/best pressure cooker?
#5274462 - 02/07/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been cultivating for 2 months, my first grow ever was cakes, and now (as a matter of fact right now) I am PCing 24 1/2 pint jars of WBS, the thing is it takes FOREVER to PC all my jars, so I am going to buy a nice PC, I was wondering what you guys think is a good PC, I was thinking maybe an 30 quart All American, any opinions are greatly appreciated.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274476 - 02/07/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a 30 qt all american and i love it! I started with an 18 qt presto, and thought that was good...but my AA is the best investment ive made along the lines of this hobby of growing edible mushrooms
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274479 - 02/07/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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All American kicks ass. I have one that's been in the family for about 30 years. Still works.
I like to use the PCs without weights, but that's personal preference.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: gourmetgrower]
#5274497 - 02/07/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use Mirro brand PC I think is the most bang for the buck, all americans are nice but a lot of $$$. Mirro can be found at Wal-Mart for 40$ it holds 8, 1/2 pints or 6 pints, or they can be found on the web http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/mirro.htm?source=pcggad http://www.goodmans.net/dept.asp?d=15
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274516 - 02/07/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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AA (as big as you can afford). AA 921 is IMHO minimum size.
Try to get one with the old school pressure relief valve. (same as on all AA sterilizers)

AA's last for generations, if taken care of.
 Pair of 40 Y/O AA 941's. Good as the day they were NEW.

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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274601 - 02/07/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wronguy turned me on to the 22Q Mirro at the pressure-cooker outlet. $87 shipped. Holds 36 Half Pint Jars, 20 Pint Jars, or 7 Quart Jars. ----->HERE<----- For like $10 more you can get the Presto 23Q version with a pressure guage (highly recommended). The AA-921 (the best) will run you around $155 shipped.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Premedman1]
#5274648 - 02/07/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I think I'll go with an AA, PC with my 6 quart presto takes forever! Premedman thanks for the link, really good prices
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274673 - 02/07/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brand new AA's have a weight pressure regulator. Cheaper to manufacture than the toggle valve.
With a toggle valve, you don't lose moisture 
My AA 941 sterilizer calls for 2 pints of water. Almost 2 pints remain after a 4 hour PC run @ 18 psi.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: agar]
#5274698 - 02/07/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
agar said:
Almost 2 pints remain after a 4 hour PC run @ 18 psi.
Good Lord man, think that'll do it?
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Premedman1]
#5274758 - 02/07/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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AA, AC-Lab are both excellent investments!
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Premedman1]
#5274799 - 02/07/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Premedman1 said:
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agar said:
Almost 2 pints remain after a 4 hour PC run @ 18 psi.
Good Lord man, think that'll do it?
It HAS done it, more times than I care to count.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: agar]
#5274823 - 02/07/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Me......I waited till I got AAPC925 before my first grow 
But I like that Toggle thing
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Premedman1]
#5274825 - 02/07/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Premedman1 said: Wronguy turned me on
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5274840 - 02/07/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My first PC was an AA 921, second was an AA 925X, third was an AA 941 sterilizer. You don't want to know about the 4th, 5th & 6th.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Atheist]
#5274844 - 02/07/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now that's funny!
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5274879 - 02/07/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I bought mine HERE. I bought a toggle valve like Agar suggested and life couldn't be sweeter! 
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: agar]
#5274903 - 02/07/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said: With a toggle valve, you don't lose moisture 
I've used the same water for about 5 runs now. I never hear a damn peep out of that toggle valve! I can't thank Agar enough for this suggestion!
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: FooMan]
#5274978 - 02/07/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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so, where do you get the toggle valve from? do you replace the regular valve with that one or do you have to do some modification to the PC
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275081 - 02/07/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Toggle can be ordered on-line. Thread is the same. Screw out weight nipple & screw in toggle.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275092 - 02/07/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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CapCaptain said: so, where do you get the toggle valve from? do you replace the regular valve with that one or do you have to do some modification to the PC
https://store.wafco.com/ezmerchant/home.nsf
In the search box, type in the number "65".
Make sure you use a socket or a wrench that fits snug on the nut, otherwise you can strip it.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: FooMan]
#5275116 - 02/07/06 08:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Make sure you use a socket or a wrench that fits snug on the nut, otherwise you can strip it.
Don't worry about that ^^^ I'm a handyman!!! Now, how to use that valve is a different thing "releases at 23-28 psi"?!?!? Isn't that too much? I really like my face as it it without any holes or missing eyes, you know what I mean
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275130 - 02/07/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you see the valve description says it's for AA Sterilizers, but the one I bought is a AA Canner, does it make a difference, other than thicker aluminum?
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275160 - 02/07/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Deja vu, huh Agar? 
I told Agar the same thing when I saw that. This thing is solid! What I do is turn the stove on high until the gauge gets up to 15psi, then lower it and keep checking on it until the pressure is steady at 15. My gauge has gone all the way up (accident) and all I heard was a slight hiss from the valve reminding me what a dumbass I am. The thing with the toggle is that it's too quiet. It won't jiggle like the weight to remind you that it's still going, so just pay attention when you use it.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275166 - 02/07/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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CapCaptain said: you see the valve description says it's for AA Sterilizers, but the one I bought is a AA Canner, does it make a difference, other than thicker aluminum?
I've got it on my cooker, not sterilizer and it works fine.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: FooMan]
#5275203 - 02/07/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Deja vu, huh Agar? 
I told Agar the same thing when I saw that. This thing is solid! What I do is turn the stove on high until the gauge gets up to 15psi, then lower it and keep checking on it until the pressure is steady at 15. My gauge has gone all the way up (accident) and all I heard was a slight hiss from the valve reminding me what a dumbass I am. The thing with the toggle is that it's too quiet. It won't jiggle like the weight to remind you that it's still going, so just pay attention when you use it.
The thing is that I have an electric stove, so it's a bit more difficult to regulate the temperature, it takes a while for the metal to cool down, I'll play it safe then, if the gauge goes all the way up I'll just cover the PC with the rest of my poli-fill to muffle the explosion and run as fast as I can. No really! if the gauge goes to the limit, can I open the PC or something as an emergency measure? BTW, 8 hours and still PCing in my 6 quart presto...
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275245 - 02/07/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use an electric stove too. The toggle WILL release the pressure when it gets in the 20's. Do a test run with it and just start with the stove on medium and let the pressure rise slowly. I didn't mean to scare you with previous post. Use the toggle once or twice and your mind will be at ease. It's the same as the weight, but doesn't let much steam out and it's quiet as hell.
DON'T do anything if the pressure goes way high other than lowering the stove temp. A sudden release of pressure can make your jars crack.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: FooMan]
#5275257 - 02/07/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll give it a try then! I can't wait to get my AA PC!!
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5275275 - 02/07/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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(without looking at other posts)
What about Burpee The Aristocrat Cooker?

Bought from a junk dealer for 10 bucks and has worked PERFECTLY for 25+ pressure cookings. I love my Burpee! Its circa 1950.... seriously....
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: tokey666]
#5275339 - 02/07/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
tokey666 said: (without looking at other posts)
What about Burpee The Aristocrat Cooker?

Bought from a junk dealer for 10 bucks and has worked PERFECTLY for 25+ pressure cookings. I love my Burpee! Its circa 1950.... seriously....
It look really cute! although I'd be a little careful, just a little. 1950, nice.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5299658 - 02/14/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Finally I've got it !!!!

Now lets try it...
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5299661 - 02/14/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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HELL yeah........enjoy
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5299700 - 02/14/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Grab a sterilizer toggle! PM me if you need a source. It is a great investment!
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Jaeger]
#5301449 - 02/14/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, so I've got this sterilizer toggle valve VVVV
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/05-06/792945715-AA_safety_valve.jpg
Now, I'm supposed to remove the valve where the round pressure weight sits, (or is it the round rubbery safety valve?) and install this instead, am I correct? Then to regulate the pressure I adjust my electric range, if it goes over the limit the toggle valve will release pressure anyway, right?
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5302024 - 02/15/06 02:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Toggle is designed to release pressure around the 22 psi range.
When removing the pipe neck the weight sits on & replacing it with the toggle. Be sure to use a good quality, tight fitting wrench & the toggle is threaded into the lid properly.
 
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: agar]
#5302318 - 02/15/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said: Toggle is designed to release pressure around the 22 psi range.
When removing the pipe neck the weight sits on & replacing it with the toggle. Be sure to use a good quality, tight fitting wrench & the toggle is threaded into the lid properly.
 
So, do I have to remove and replace the overpressure plug with something else as well?
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#5302791 - 02/15/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nope overpressure plug is just fine  I used a little teflon tape when reinstalling
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: Jaeger]
#5302836 - 02/15/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just ordered an AA 930 from my local hardware store. Man Ace hardware kicks ass if you talk to the stock manager or the store owner. Apparently Wisconsin Aluminum Foundry(the makers of the AA brand) treat their retailers right. They want $308 or $380(cant remember which) for the 930 if you call them directly. That's without shipping cost. Your local hardware store owner or stock manager will have yours in a week for $250. That's about what you can buy them from http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/930.htm but $3.82 cheaper. Plus he's throwing in an extra blow out disc for free.
Getting excited about my first cultivation, ~Cappa.
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: cappa]
#5319977 - 02/20/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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one more thing..... the overpressure plug will release AFTER the toggle valve releases, the OPP will release at 28 while the toggle will release at 20-22
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: CapCaptain]
#18341097 - 05/29/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aluminum pressure cookers tend to be less expensive and distribute heat evenly better the stainless steel cookers. However stainless steel cookers tend to be more durable and often have an aluminum plate attached to the outside bottom of them which helps distribute the heat uniformly.
You can find a lot more information about pressure cookers here:
http://www.nichepage.com/n/kitchenware/best-pressure-cooker/
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: zfa32937]
#18341205 - 05/29/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's been 7 years so i'm sure they all know what there looking for by now welcome to shroomery
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: zfa32937]
#18341322 - 05/30/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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zfa32937 said: Aluminum pressure cookers tend to be less expensive and distribute heat evenly better the stainless steel cookers. However stainless steel cookers tend to be more durable and often have an aluminum plate attached to the outside bottom of them which helps distribute the heat uniformly.
You can find a lot more information about pressure cookers here:
http://www.nichepage.com/n/kitchenware/best-pressure-cooker/
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Re: Good/best pressure cooker? [Re: cronicr]
#18341349 - 05/30/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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cronicr said: it's been 7 years so i'm sure they all know what there looking for by now welcome to shroomery
maybe theyve been waiting for an answer
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