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OfflineAround In Circles
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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5280970 - 02/09/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: Around In Circles]
    #5280984 - 02/09/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it could be that a certain "Sect" took ethnogens... and there fore gained power, knowledge and intellect over others and there fore was able to "rule" them/guide them as a people i.e. kings and queens... and perhaps this is where alot of the egpytian "gods" come from... their almost like our "celebrities" of today.


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5280997 - 02/09/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

remember... the "catalyst" that they were reffering to was basically just the "awakening of conciousness" to realize that we are alive and a very special species indeed.

tools, trades, ideas and intelect followed... but it was the first initial awakening of conciousness that provoked the motivation to gain more power and knowledge.

the idea that women used mushrooms more than men because they werent hunters is intersting and not far fetched... i was reading or listening to something where in a certain "sect" some type of psychedelic is given to the eyes of infants and young girls on an almost if not daily basis.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5281002 - 02/09/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It is thought that the hominids in close contact with psilocybin mushrooms were able to outthink and evolve quicker than their counterparts, therefor outlivig them.  Better eyesight, linguistics and awareness of self are definately enough to overpower other species.  :thumbup:


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: Around In Circles]
    #5281003 - 02/09/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it might not even have been psilocybe mushrooms 3 million years ago, if mushroom envolved us, where are all the paintings of mushrooms from ancient time, can you show a single proof of mushroom use that dates back older than 10000 years I will be suprised.


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: giz]
    #5281024 - 02/09/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

things like language and writing ability/documentation (which is basically what art is... especially the older art.. this is all they knew) didnt actually happen to much later in life... why do you think we dont know much about our ancestors? they just didnt document anything like the way we did... mainly because they just didnt know... and we have just evolved to know....

what are the stats? like more info is documented on a daily/hourly basis today than all of the documentation of history combined?

we are truely in the "information age"


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

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"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: giz]
    #5281160 - 02/09/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/25043

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99/n513/a06.html?1449

But then refer to this, the oldest known caveart

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Human%20Nature%20S%201999/new_light_on_the_oldest_art.htm

Now perhaps any art from the African early hominid era just didn't survive the MILLIONS of years.  :wink:


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: Around In Circles]
    #5744323 - 06/12/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

man thinking about a topic like this is absolutely mind blowing. i can tell many of the people here are "old souls"(you guys know what im talking about...if u are one). man it just goes to show just how magnificant and wonderful life really is....i love life


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #6459380 - 01/14/07 05:08 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

this topic is also hot right now in advanced cult forum :  link

:laugh: shirley


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #6468420 - 01/17/07 01:46 AM (17 years, 16 days ago)

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It is not true that evolution is purely genetic. In the case of man, something prompted him to stand up and keep doing it to the point that humans evolved to function that way. People didn't start standing because their genes said so, they stood up first because of an idea, and their genes caught up. Human beings are the first organisms to become capable of consciously evolving themselves.
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I dont agree with this.
Man suddenly did not just get the idea to stand up permanately, his genetics told him when to do so. Before man walked on his 2 feet full time, he would most likely stand on his two feet to pick fruits and to see farther, just like monkeys.
Eventually his genetics caught up with this, and he became more efficient at standing and moving on two feet until it became the norm.
Just check out that video on the net of that chimp who walks around on two feet, not very agile is he?

I dont know much about this, but the idea that man conciously evolved, seems kinda far fetched. Feasible at this point in yes, but not then. Its like saying a giraffes conciously grew longer necks.
They grew them out of neccesity, just like man standing.
Man got the idea that standing is good for certain things, and the genetics caught up, until he was standing permanetly.
My spelling sucks yes, but dont let that take away from my point please..


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Re: Mushrooms and Human Evolution...Your thoughts? [Re: Around In Circles]
    #6468868 - 01/17/07 09:40 AM (17 years, 15 days ago)

I highly recommend that you read the book "SACRED MUSHROOM OF VISIONS TEONANACTL" Its an amazing book, that basically has all the history of Psilocybin shrooms. There's a chapter that strictly talks about mushroom use in prehistory. It shows some cave paintings with a guy with shrooms all over his body and holding mushrooms. The book states that nomads definitely took shrooms and knew what they were, and that because they would follow giant animals for food they would come across there droppings which would sometimes contain psychoactive shrooms inside. It says that early humans knew what psychoactive mushrooms were and ate them strictly for the effects rather then a food source. I wouldn't doubt it for a second that shrooms had a role, if not a big one in the development of modern man.


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