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best place with really powerful salvia extract??
    #5274094 - 02/07/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

alright guys, im about to purchase about a gram.... i want to know the best place with the best quality product.

what are your guys experiences?

are they all the same?

i thought i seen extracts of 20x 30x and 40x... but the most i see on websites is only 10... what gives???

like i said i want to be sky rocketed to another planet. thats how i gets down.

should you smoke herb with this or just smoke it totally sober on its own?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5274099 - 02/07/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

should i be looking for standardized... or non standardized... whats the difference?

which one is stronger?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5274103 - 02/07/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Buy some 60x and smoke it out of a waterbong, no pot. Hold each hit in for 30 seconds.

http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Cloud_Man]
    #5274126 - 02/07/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah that was another question... the best way to smoke this is with a bong or a bubbler correct?

and is it a must to have water in it?

are there any places that sell this stuff in the us?

i think for now i might just get a gram of 10 or 20x standardized... its a bit cheaper that way.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5274135 - 02/07/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i noticed the stuff from europe is flavored... does anyone reccomend that or not??


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5274343 - 02/07/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

anyone... come on!

pm me if you want.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5274989 - 02/07/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you buy 10x you will be severely disappointed. I don't even reccomend 20x to be honest. 40x or higher is the best way to go. Flavored Salvia... It's flavored, what can I say. If you like Peach flavored stuff go for it. A waterbong does require water, yes. I have smoked salvia out of a bowl before, it works, but not very well. I hope I was of some help. Just pm me if you want to know more, I've done salvia many times.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Cloud_Man]
    #5275133 - 02/07/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

really? see ive been reading a few posts about this now... and most of the people say to do 10x that its good enough.. your one of the only people to say higher.

what is about a water bong that brings "her" on so much better?

what about the standardized and non standardeized... what is the difference?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5275156 - 02/07/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If 10x doesn't do it for you, you're either a hardhead, not smoking it right, or getting bad stuff, or maybe you just like a really strong experience.

If 20x doesn't do it for you, you're getting bad stuff.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5275209 - 02/07/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i would like a really strong experience... but i might try standardized 10x first... i could always move up.

im going to read that whole page sagewisdom... looks good.

im gonna make sure i get it right the first time around

im a person who HAS to have music always specially when im fucked up... and a TON of lights... lava lamps, colored fog machines.. laserpod etc etc (i actually have a 55 gallon salt water tank in my wall that is viewable from both sides - and its fucking unreal!)

what do you guys think?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5275218 - 02/07/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly? None of that shit, not for salvia. It'll be annoying at best.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5275242 - 02/07/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

how are you my friend? sorry my computer crashed before i could say hi.

did you go to the symposium?

im surprised that lights and music dont enhance the experience like with other psychedelics.

what is it about the water bong that brings it on so much better?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: agoutihead]
    #5276683 - 02/08/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I like to trip hard which is why I don't smoke the 5x-20x. In regards to the waterbong, someone at a head shop told me that the water makes the salvia more potent or "activates" it somehow. I'm not sure how true this is, but I did notice a difference when somking it out of a bowl compared to the waterbong. Music... I've played music on salvia, but I always kind of forget about it being there. I don't know, salvia is very different from other psychedelics. I suggest a dim lit room for lighting. Easy on the eyes.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Cloud_Man]
    #5276702 - 02/08/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am pretty sure you are not smoking it right if you need 40x to trip hard. I would recommend that anyone trying salvia for the first time should start with 5x. IMO anything over 20x is unnessesary and potentially dangerous.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: abrad84]
    #5277084 - 02/08/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Dont bother using a bowl, it will owrka  little, but not to its full extent.  I suggest going through i am shaman shop, they are a shroomery sponsor and i got my bag of 3 grams in 3 days.  I bought some 6x, and smoked it out of a bong, IMHO the only way to go, or a gravity bong is better:)  Dont bother with lights, music etc, because, everyone that tried it with me and got a good strong hit said they have never tripped that hard.  Most everyone was frightened by the intensity of it, and most didnt want to try it again.  It is much stronger than you may expect, people who tried it with and had done acid in the past said it was stronger, but unlike most other hallucinogens it is a very brief trip, lasting only a few minutes, then a strong afterglow/high for about 30-45 minutes id say.  But from my experience the best way to ge the best results i use a big water bong if you can get one, torch the bowl never stop lighting it, fill the bong up alot and hold it in for as long as you can.  Then sit back and hold on, one hit will blow your mind if you do it right.  I second the above if you need 40x you are not getting a good enough hit.

P.S.  If you do it right, be prepared to be out of control and say and do things you dont remember doing :eek:


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: droptopsunfire03]
    #5277094 - 02/08/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Get the strongest non standardized from shamanspalace.com The 10x is plenty for me (actually the leaves are)...


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #5277116 - 02/08/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

why non standardized... what is the difference between that and standardized?


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: abrad84]
    #5277343 - 02/08/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I am pretty sure you are not smoking it right if you need 40x to trip hard. I would recommend that anyone trying salvia for the first time should start with 5x. IMO anything over 20x is unnessesary and potentially dangerous.




If you think so :wink: I am going to change my mind about this though, this person should probably smoke 10x for their first time, it's very hard to predict how a person will react to Salvia. I fell in love with it, other friends of mine were extremely frightened of it.


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Cloud_Man]
    #5277411 - 02/08/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My roommate just got an order of salvia from iamshaman, I'll let you all know how it works out. We got an ounce of leaves for quids, 5X and 10X non standardized, and some 10X standardized...


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Re: best place with really powerful salvia extract?? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5277591 - 02/08/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

come on someone... what is the difference between standardized and non standardized???


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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