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13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy
    #5273923 - 02/07/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Noetical]
    #5273927 - 02/07/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

psh the government invented a 13 year old kid to use as bullshit propaganda


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5273931 - 02/07/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it will never end


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: danlennon3]
    #5273940 - 02/07/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

more than likely she drank too much water and her brain swelled up, which is the most common way that people die 'taking Ecstasy'

*sigh*  :rolleyes:


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Noetical]
    #5273941 - 02/07/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That's too vague to mean anything...

Basically a 13 year old dies.

Was she taking any prescribed medicine?
Was she taking any herbal supplements?
Were medical personel aware of her taking ecstacy and did they treat accordingly?

These are questions educated users ask and questions eager pro drug-war citizens won't.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Noetical]
    #5273973 - 02/07/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd be willing to bet she either had a heart condition, became dehydrated or overheated, or there's some other factor that we don't know about.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: dblaney]
    #5274016 - 02/07/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It might not have been MDMA or MDA in the pill she took.When someone dies from a a pill that was bought as "Ecstasy" it is usually some drug in the pill that caused the death or some completely other reason.After a week or two and they realize what happened,the media wont care and wont mention it.Because it lost its shock value and is uninteresting to people.

They didnt give any information.What was the final cause of death?It just says her condition deteriorated.

It is very sad though,that a fucking 13 yr old died.This shouldnt be happening.The harder the laws are on safe illegal substances,the more risks people take to do them.Risks involve obtaining the "drugs" from a dangerous source or the pill not being what it is actually said to be.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Noetical]
    #5274021 - 02/07/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

that's too bad :raver:


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: dblaney]
    #5274043 - 02/07/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thats a shame. but she played with fire and got burnt.

maybe next time tiger. maybe next time.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274052 - 02/07/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

There wont be a 'next time' for her.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Noetical]
    #5274058 - 02/07/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That report said she had trouble breathing, maybe she had asthma? I've read of a death from asthamatic problems while on E before.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5274067 - 02/07/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

who knows that?


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274075 - 02/07/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

?


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5274088 - 02/07/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Disco Cat said:
That report said she had trouble breathing, maybe she had asthma? I've read of a death from asthamatic problems while on E before.




isn't it funny how they always seem to overlook previous medical conditions or details like "oh well she didnt drink enough water?" its always right down to the core. ECSTACY. IT KILLED HER. OH GOD ITS GOING TO KILL US ALL.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274090 - 02/07/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ecstacy is sew dangeru$$.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5274091 - 02/07/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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RESTLESS said:
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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274092 - 02/07/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Apparently it isn't the asthma that's a problem with E, but the asthma medication people take, like inhalers. It causes an extreme rise in blood pressure. Still, in that case, I wouldn't want to take E and risk having a need to use an inhaler while the dose is still active.


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CONTRAINDICATIONS: MDMA should not be used in combination with MAOIs or drugs that strongly inhibit CYP2D6 isozyme function (a near-fatal interaction with the protease inhibitor Ritanovir has been claimed.)[19] 'Slow metabolizers' (CYP2D6 deficient people) do not appear to be at a significantly greater risk of death from MDMA use (based on their absence among genotyped victims.)[20] MDMA should never be combined with other stimulants such as amphetamine due to the increased risk of heat stroke and hypertensive crisis. As a strong stimulant, MDMA should not be used by people that have compromised cardiovascular systems (heart disease, hypertension, etc.) Successful use has been reported by insulin-dependent diabetics, but is inherently more dangerous (regular blood sugar checks should be made.) The risk posed to asthmatics is unclear. Although there has been one reported death, MDMA has vasoconstrictive effects similar to those produced by epinephrine 'rescue' inhalers; several people with severe asthma have reported no difficulties while taking MDMA in spite of engaging in levels of activity they would normally be incapable of. MDMA is not definitively known to be a mutagen or teratogen, but has been associated with an increased risk of birth defects in humans[74] and is associated with lower birth weight and smaller litter sizes when given to pregnant rats.[21] As such, MDMA should not be used by women who are or may be pregnant or are nursing (the drug can be excreted in breast milk.) Serotonin reuptake inhibitors can partially to almost fully block the effects of MDMA in humans (by about 60-70%) [22], but the combination doesn't appear to be inherently dangerous. As MDMA is acutely intoxicating and can affect judgment and concentration, the user should not drive, operate heavy machinery, etc. from the time the drug is taken until sober again (and even then driving should ideally be avoided due to fatigue.)




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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5274110 - 02/07/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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RESTLESS said:
Ecstacy is sew dangeru$$.




thanks for the rating of 1, RESTLESS. you rock. :smile:


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274114 - 02/07/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Don't mention it. :thumbup:


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: RESTLESS]
    #5274183 - 02/07/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

btw people sorry about any previous posts i made which made it seemed like i was joking, i didn't mean it in that kind of way.

i veto that remark!


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: lysergicide]
    #5274265 - 02/07/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

:shake:


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: dblaney]
    #5274297 - 02/07/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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dblaney said:
I'd be willing to bet she either had a heart condition, became dehydrated or overheated, or there's some other factor that we don't know about.



In the case of people who die their first time, it's often the case that they're allergic to it. Also, it could be PMA, or some other more dangerous drug.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Silversoul]
    #5274938 - 02/07/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

") The risk posed to asthmatics is unclear. Although there has been one reported death, MDMA has vasoconstrictive effects similar to those produced by epinephrine 'rescue' inhalers; several people with severe asthma have reported no difficulties while taking MDMA in spite of engaging in levels of activity they would normally be incapable of. MDMA"

this makes it sound like its actually helpful for asthmatics, not harmful? but using inhalers on it isn't?

well i sort of have asthma and this is something i'll have to research before doing X.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: leery11]
    #5275061 - 02/07/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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leery11 said:
") The risk posed to asthmatics is unclear. Although there has been one reported death, MDMA has vasoconstrictive effects similar to those produced by epinephrine 'rescue' inhalers; several people with severe asthma have reported no difficulties while taking MDMA in spite of engaging in levels of activity they would normally be incapable of. MDMA"
this makes it sound like its actually helpful for asthmatics, not harmful? but using inhalers on it isn't?

well i sort of have asthma and this is something i'll have to research before doing X.





I've read that too, I always thought MDMA had a broncho-dialation type effect.  But i've also read that a person's immune system can be weakened temporarily while on E, hence the "sniffles" after a long night....

Maybe she had some medical postion that became progressively worse because of her suppressed immune system... or maybe she just ate something that wasn't MDMA at all...

My guess is as good as anyones:shrug:


Edited by deryl (02/07/06 08:28 PM)


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: deryl]
    #5275465 - 02/07/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i heard somewhere that certain people die after taking E for the first time. its in the genes or something.

i dont understand why death from a drug that a person "allegedly" took is news. people die all the time. your reading these five words. there someone just died.

my dad was in an accident and survived. where is his glory as a survivor who fell 25ft and lived to tell about it?

where is the story about the doctor who saved my dad's life?

fuck that... news today isnt real news. just a scare tactic.


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Hengman]
    #5276046 - 02/08/06 01:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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i heard somewhere that certain people die after taking E for the first time. its in the genes or something.



I'd really like to know if that's true or not


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Re: 13 Year Old Girl Dies After Taking Ecstasy [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5276053 - 02/08/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Disco Cat said:
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i heard somewhere that certain people die after taking E for the first time. its in the genes or something.



I'd really like to know if that's true or not



As I mentioned before, some people are allergic to it.


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