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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5291678 - 02/12/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why does a flat bottom matter? So you have a quarter inch more depth in places. I can't see that having much effect.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Jaeger]
    #5291720 - 02/12/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Aside from a little uneveness, should I bother with a bottom layer of coir or verm?

So after just a little math, I'll be having about a 4 inch deep layer of substrate (casing and possible bottom layer aside) which means that according to the width and lenght of the tub, that will mean I need ~30qt of substrate. If each strain haas 8 qt jars of WBS (maybe 5.5qt of actual WBS) then I'll need 24-25qt of coco coir to spawn to. Is that an okay ratio? Any advice on what I should do?

Also, just to clarify, Wronguy's Double Tub Tek should work with the bulk I'm attempting right? With humidity and FAE I mean.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5291740 - 02/12/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, I just thought, that much coco coir would cost more than the same amount of tenn stud most likely. Although I don't know how many quarts a certain weight will fill.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5293083 - 02/12/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Starting to see some spots of myc. Thank god germination is almost over, I was getting bored not seeing any changes.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5297539 - 02/13/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Here's a new pic. I've never seen a colonizing jar up close before, but something tells me this isn't right. It looks like cobweb to me, but my $.02 isn't worth much.







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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5298774 - 02/14/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

bump^


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5298824 - 02/14/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Myc usually starts out greyish like that and will get solid white with time. If it doesn't and your jars are completely colonized in a day or 2, it is cobweb. :frown:


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5298834 - 02/14/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Looks good to me dude. In the first and third pic you can see a dense area of myc. Now your jars should explode with growth in the next few days. Just be patient. I know it's incredibly hard, but it will all work out. Within 1-2 weeks you'll be casing those bad boys.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: FooMan]
    #5298835 - 02/14/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

At least there's hope its not cob, thanks guys, I'll be sure to post more pics with time.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5298850 - 02/14/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

These jars have been where they are for a while, so actually, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't cobweb have most liekly shown up earlier (and all jars are showing these signs right about now)? Just a thought.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5300401 - 02/14/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I just checked up on the jars just now, the myc growth is coming along very nicely. The bottom layer however was noticably behind the top, nodoubtedly due to the heater temp now combined with the heat now being produced by the jars themselves. The heater was set to 86 and the bottom of the TiT was registering 90 degrees (the thermo might be a little +/-, bad thermo) while only registering 86 before. It's now set to a little under 84-84 (the heater goes in increments, so it's hard to say exactly).


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5300439 - 02/14/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Good documentation!

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Edited by cappa (02/14/06 07:29 PM)


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: cappa]
    #5300506 - 02/14/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Leave your jars alone, you are going to make it seem like a long time if you keep checking those jars everyday. Don't check them for a few days.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: DHJH]
    #5300699 - 02/14/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yea seriously dude, its way cooler to leave them alone for 3 days and then when you go to check on them your like, "Holy shit look at that business! I'm astounded at the amount it has progressed during my leave of abscence!!!"


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: JustK]
    #5300765 - 02/14/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The possibility that it was mold got me way paranoid, and the last check was to see how much hotter the bottom was. It was at the highest I would let it get and I was sure the jars would have made it hotter, I got the temps where they should be now, so I won't be checking so often anymore.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5303754 - 02/15/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have the wbs down pretty good now, atleast colonizing it in the jars, I have quart sized jars totally done in 5 days max, not using Lc.I think ur moisture content is low, they should be going faster, or ur incubator temp is too low.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: liloldme]
    #5303821 - 02/15/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The temp is about 82-84 on top, and 86 on bottom, the temps might not be optimal, but its hard to keep them constant especially recently. The mositure might be to low, but it seems like the ones that have more moisture are doing worse.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5303831 - 02/15/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what should the range be for the TiT on the bottom and top, max and lows?


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5303843 - 02/15/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What you have sounds like it is great to me :smile:


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Jaeger]
    #5303849 - 02/15/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can tilt the jars pretty far and none roll easily, and nothing dry if that. chunks will usually crumble off if it's tilted far enough.


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