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gourmetgrower
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: gourmetgrower]
#5286789 - 02/10/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd watch them for a while. They may be OK, but should be removed if they fail to produce linear or rhyzomorphic growth.
It's hard to tell from photos, but that looks kinda like yeast to me.
Any other people have an opinion?
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Drone
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: gourmetgrower]
#5286801 - 02/10/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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gotta be a contam. its all over the jar. myc dosnt start off as dots all over the jar. First signs of myc are hard to see, very cloudy looking areas that thicken.
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Edited by Drone (02/10/06 06:16 PM)
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5286812 - 02/10/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just got back from checking all of them, and it turns out that it's only like this (the pics were of the most speckled one of them all) with the Equadors. 5 of 8 show any sign of spots (even if its only 2-3 and not 1000's).
Nothing at all like this on the other jars/strains.
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5289290 - 02/11/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well I've tossed all 8 of them (of the 3 that hadn't shown signs of yeast, 2 started to, and I'm sure the 3rd would have). So now I've got 16 of Z and Transkis. Bummer the 3rd strain had to drop out. Cap max said he would send me a replacement syringe (hopefully not from the same print . At least I lost the least potent of all the strains I have. I'm pretty sure it was yeast and not mold because the spots weren't hairy, they were most like dried crusty spots eating into the seeds.
On a lighter note, In my inspection of all the jars I noticed that one of the Zs is just starting to colonize (just a little so far).
Here's the line-up of the soon to be off'ed EQs in order of inoc. Sorry boys, another day, another grow.

oh and here's either myc starting or mold in one of the EQ jars, can anyone tell?


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Drone
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5289317 - 02/11/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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looks like myc, youll know in a few days for sure. Early myc tends to look greyish and smokey. kinda looks like cobweb. it will white'n up and thicken out if its myc.
bummer about the syringe. my last grow was f'd up casue the syringe was bad.
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Edited by Drone (02/11/06 04:36 PM)
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rygo796
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Drone]
#5289338 - 02/11/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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def. mycelium in those later pics. In about 3-4 days youll notice the patch getting bigger and a few more forming in the jar
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: rygo796]
#5289382 - 02/11/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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There were two jars with that stuff, and the one that looked more like mold was in one of teh EQs that I tossed (it was sorta hairy and not smokey like myc), and the other was in the Z (the smokey one). I'm starting to wonder which one I'll be trying first, Z or Transki (I'm holding off my first trip on shrooms to be with my own first grow).
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Drone
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5289713 - 02/11/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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first trip? first grow? awesome, thats gonna be one memorable experience for you. Even better than you grew them youself and you have nothing to worry about.
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Drone]
#5289727 - 02/11/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Exactly, I figured it'd be the best first time I could possibly have, and enjoying the fruits of my own labor (pun intended ) should feel rewarding. I'm interested to see what strain everyone thinks I should first trip on, it's a shame this poll will be one strain short .
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5289737 - 02/11/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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And just to have as a reference in my log, here's a link I made in the contam forum about my EQs. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5287506/an/0/page/0
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ke1n
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: FooMan]
#5289909 - 02/11/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
FooManShroom said:
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Jeeter said: Buying spores on the internet seems like the most unsafest way to grow. Won't they put yer a$$ on a list and come knocking on your door?
Spores are legal to sell, but if you're really paranoid, mail your order in and pay by cash or money order. I don't know of any vendor that keeps records of mailed in orders. Credit card orders will leave a paper trail.
But you're also paying through a third party usually (paypal). PAypal keeps logs of your transactions
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tiny_rabid_birds
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: ke1n]
#5290012 - 02/11/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's if you pay with paypal. You don't have to at all, you can pay w/ checks or money orders like fooman said. No paper trail there. Plus.. like he said, spores are totally legal to buy/sell. Sure, it can look suspicious, but such miniscule suspicions are rarely worth anyone's time.
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Solidcell
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throw some cash in an envelope and leave special instructions to set fire to your order after read. Make sure the bills are unmarked and nonsequential tho .
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: ke1n]
#5290190 - 02/11/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
ke1n said:
Quote:
FooManShroom said:
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Jeeter said: Buying spores on the internet seems like the most unsafest way to grow. Won't they put yer a$$ on a list and come knocking on your door?
Spores are legal to sell, but if you're really paranoid, mail your order in and pay by cash or money order. I don't know of any vendor that keeps records of mailed in orders. Credit card orders will leave a paper trail.
But you're also paying through a third party usually (paypal). PAypal keeps logs of your transactions
Most vendors don't use PayPal, but any type of credit card or check transaction will leave a paper trail, regardless of who processes it. A money order or cash is the only way not to leave a paper trail. Even then, you need to make sure that the vendor specifically states that they won't keep orders/addresses after the order is processed. This can be usually found in the FAQ on the website.
Spores are legal and most growing products are legal too (in most states). I would be cautious when buying from sites that sell both growing supplies AND spores together because common sense tells me that one day the feds will catch on or a pissed off parent will report them and they'll be shut down and most likely have their records seized too. Overgrow is an example and they weren't even selling anything.
This is just paranoia, but in this day and age, you can't be too safe.
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Fick_Duck
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tiny_rabid_birds said: You don't have to at all, you can pay w/ checks or money orders like fooman said. No paper trail there.
I hate to tell you but a check will leave a definate paper trail!
But if your that worried about it, just have spores sent to a close friends house. My friend has his sent here, and if I get raided BFD, they wont find anything.
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cougercruiser
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Fick_Duck]
#5290208 - 02/11/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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solidcell did you get my pm>?
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: cougercruiser]
#5290319 - 02/11/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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nope.
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cougercruiser
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5290342 - 02/11/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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cheack now? and if not send me a pm so that i can reply.
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: cougercruiser]
#5290700 - 02/12/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wasn't liking how hot the bottom of the tub could potentially be, so I turned the Heater down to 84 from 86. I'll see how temps go now.
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Solidcell
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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
#5291658 - 02/12/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright so I went over to Kmart and was checing out their clear tubs for the 2 double tubs I'm gunna be making, and these are the specks of the tubs I think would suit me best: 49qt 24.9 x 17.2 x 9 inches. The surface area would give me more pins than I could ask for and the height is perfect. The only problem is is that the bottom is not completely flat (the usual design with beveling and stuff). So to have a flat bottom, I'm either going to line the bottom with coco coir or verm. Which should I go with and how moist should they be?
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