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First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing
    #5273168 - 02/07/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well here goes.  Right now I have the second batch of 8 Quart Jars in my PC and figured now would be a good time to start up my log.  I'll be including prices so that anyone who hasn't endeavored into growing will see how I overpaid for everything :wink:.  My syringes from Cap Max at Sporelab.com arrived a little while ago and are waiting for inoc.  I purcahased a 3 pack of Transki, Equador, and Z.  They arrived in about 10 days including the weekend.

Here's a lit of everything I've purchased so far, their location, and price.

EDIT: As this time went on, plans were modified and added upon, so certain things in the list may not pertain until later.  The biggest change to keep in mind is that I later decide to spawn to 60/40 Coir/Castings in a Double Tub.  I have not updated the rest of my previous posts to reflect this, this edit and the list are the only things that I will edit.

******General (Too diverse to be in any one specific catagory and are good to have around)******
3 10ml Syringes (Transki, EQ, Z) - SporeLab.com - $25
Cigar Perfect Hygrometer - Online Hygrometer Shop - $13 + Shippin
50 20ml syringe with 18g x 1 1/2" Needles - RYVMED - $10 + Shipping
Nesco FD-60 American Harvest Dehyrdator - eBay - $38 + Shipping
Presto 18 QT Pressure Cooker/Canner (w/ extra gasket and plugs) - eBay - $38.10 + $11.61 Shipping
Coffee Grinder - Albertson's - $13
Hydrogen Peroxide - RiteAid - Lost reciept, <$2 (kmart has it cheaper)
HBF Poly-down Bonded Quilt Batting - Michaels - $3.99
Tyvek Envelopes 1st Class 10x13 - Staples - $21.98 (Each evelope can make 6 squares) (USPS will send them to you for free as well)
#64 Rubberbands 1/4lb - Staples - $1.29
70% Isopropyl Alcohol - RiteAid - Lost reciept, <$2 (kmart has it cheaper)
Lysol Disinfectant - Home Depot - $4.98
Chlorox Bleach - Albertson's - Can't Remeber, but it wasn't much.
Vermiculite - Home Depot - ~$2
Zipties - Home Depot - Don't Remember, lost receipt ~$5 I believe
1.88x60 Duct Tape - Osh - $5.99
5pc Duct Mask - Osh - $1.49
Coffee Filters - Already Had
Saran Wrap - Already Had
Foil - Already Had
Mixing Bowl - Already Had
Jar Tongs - Already Had
Spray Bottle (for 10% bleach solution) - Already Had
Measuring cup - Already Had


******Helpful/Optional******
20 30Gal Trash Bags - Albertson's - $2.00
Aroma Singer Burner (no kitchen right now) - Kmart - $19.99
My Weigh AXE 200g x 0.1g Silver Scale w/ 100g Weight - eBay - $26.89 + $8.00 Shipping
Capsule Filler, Tamper & 250 Empty Size 00 Capsules - eBay - $19.70 + $6.95 Shipping
Wet Ones Hand Wipes - Kmart - $2.29


******Casing******
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Spray Bottle (for 10% bleach solution)
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Jar Tongs
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Mixing Bowl
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Foil
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Coffee Filters
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 5pc Duct Mask
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 1.88x60 Duct Tape
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Vermiculite
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Spray Bottle
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Chlorox Bleach
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 70% Isopropyl Alcohol
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Tyvek Envelopes 1st Class 10x13
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! HBF Poly-down Bonded Quilt Batting
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Presto 18 QT Pressure Cooker/Canner
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 3 10ml Syringes (Transki, EQ, Z)
20lb Wild Bird Food - Kmart - $4.99 (enough for more than 24 QTs)
5 Bed-A-Beast Coco Coir Bars - PetHouse - $8.49 each
Ultra-Care Oyster Shells - PetHouse - $5.99
Miracle Grow Sphagnum Peat Moss - Osh - I forget, but it wasn't much.
12inch oscillating Desk Fan - Already Had
4 49qt Clear Tubs - Kmart - $6.49 each
12 Kerr Quart Jars - Albertson's - about $8.50
24pc Rubbermaid Container Set - Kmart - $9.99
1 1/4 inch Hole drill bit - $5.99
Bag of Earthworm Castings - Osh - $13.99
Strainer - Already Had
Lysol - Already Had
*TiT* See Below


******Lighting (any method will need it)******
14Watt CFL - Osh - $4.49
Single Program Timer - Osh - $2.74 (Really bought a double program timer, I was only charge for a single tho)
Light Outlet Adaptor - Osh - $2.19
6' Extrention Cord - Osh - $1.39


******Cakes******
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Vermiculite
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Tyvek Envelopes 1st Class 10x13
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Presto 18 QT Pressure Cooker/Canner
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Hydrogen Peroxide
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! HBF Poly-down Bonded Quilt Batting
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Coffee Filters
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Mixing Bowl
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Jar Tongs
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Measuring cup
4cu.ft Therm-O-Rock Perlite (Way too much perlite) - Osh - Lost Receipt, ~$9-10
12 Kerr Wide Mouth Pint Jars (8 for Cakes, the other 4 for LCs) - Albertson's - $9.79
MistyMate - Already Had
*TiT* See Below


******Liquid Cultures******
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Measuring cup
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Jar Tongs
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Coffee Filters
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! HBF Poly-down Bonded Quilt Batting
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Presto 18 QT Pressure Cooker/Canner
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 2 Syringes (Z 1ml left and 10ml replacement EQ)
!Note, mentioned in 'Cakes' already! 12 Kerr Wide Mouth Pint Jars (4 for LCs, the other 8 for Cakes)
!Note, mentioned in 'Helpful/Optional' My Weigh AXE 200g Scale (To weigh 12.4g of honey for each 300ml of Water)
Organic Clover Honey - Trader Joe's - $4.29
Siphon with tube (only bought for the tubing) - Kmart - $3.99
RTV Silicone Sealant - Kmart - $3.49
*Glove Box* See below
*TiT* See Below


******Glove Box******
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Spray Bottle (for 10% bleach solution)
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Chlorox Bleach
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! 70% Isopropyl Alcohol
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Lysol Disinfectant
18 Gal Storage Tote - Kmart - $4.00
80mm Cooler Master Case Fan - PC Club - $9.99
Honeywell HEPA Air Filter - Home Depot - $14.97


******TiT******
!Note, mentioned in 'General' already! Zipties
Zoo-Med Terrarium Thermometer - PetHouse - $10.99 (what was I thinking?)
2 18Gal Rubbermaid Roughneck Containers - Home Depot - Don't Remember, Lost Receipt ~$4 each I believe
200W ViaAqua Aquarium Heater - PetHouse - $19.99
Blankets/Towels - Already Had


Pictures (more coming)

My TiT.  It goes from 86-89 on the bottom to 82 at the very top.  It can hold 30 Quart Jars, but I'm only using 24.


The type of WBS I got at Kmart




15lb for 60 minutes

I have access to stables and plenty of hpoo, but no good way of pasturizing it where I am, but my next grow in April will be WBS and hpoo with 50/50+.  For now it's just going to be the WBS cased with 50/50+.


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Edited by Solidcell (03/18/06 04:53 PM)


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5273325 - 02/07/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

long long post.....should be posted in "growing logs"


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5273337 - 02/07/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ah true, I forgot that there were subsections in Cultivation. If a mod could move me over I would appreciate it. Thanks for the reminder RemainRandom.

It's long only if you care to read my supplies, but that's only there for anyone who wants to get a general idea of how much stuff costs.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5273376 - 02/07/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Fuckin' awesome man. You went all out on recording this stuff. Great way to start out a nice, detailed grow log.

Now, if I may be so bold, I've got a suggestion or two. For one, you said there's a pretty major temp fluctuation within your TiT. What I do to remedy that is first I line the bottom with a really fluffy towel, to help evenly distribute the heat, rather than in being concentrated on the bottom of your jars. Or you could also make a small rack or something for the jars to sit on, so there's some space b/t the jar bottoms and the tub bottom, like the towel this would dissipate the heat. Also, I drape a blanket over my TiT, to act as insulation and keep the temp steadier, with less of a difference b/t the temp at the top and the temp at the bottom.

In the future, just go to the USPS website and you can get tyvek envelopes shipped to you for free.

You said you're looking for a larger strainer. Well personally, I just use screen stuff from a screen door. You can buy a massive roll of it, big enough for a door, for like maybe 5 bucks at a hardware store, or the tools section of walmart/kmart. The screen stuff I got works awesome, the holes are just small enough to prevent the millet seeds from falling through.

That's all I can think of so far, but it looks like you're on the right track. Good luck.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5273439 - 02/07/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, I realized the Tyvek thing too late.

I already do have a towel on the bottom and a towel that wraps around all the jars in the tub.

And as for the strainer, I had that exact same idea seeing as I'll have the screen for the drying process anyways.  I think the roll of screen was $4-5.  I just hadn't purchased it yet because I'm going to by the drying supplies later and at the time didn't think to use it as a strainer as well.  I could have gone back up the street to get it, but I was too lazy and did a lot more work because of it :crazy:


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5273447 - 02/07/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well the screen stuff I have is plastic, not wire. It doesn't really matter, it's just that the plastic screen is easier to work with when straining stuff, as it makes a nice, workable pouch, rather than staying rigid like metal.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5273603 - 02/07/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

RemainRandom50 said:
long long post.....should be posted in "growing logs"




I could be wrong, but I don't think they get put into the grow log section until they're complete.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: FooMan]
    #5273633 - 02/07/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You could always just use a pillow case as a strainer instead of mesh :smile:


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Jaeger]
    #5274213 - 02/07/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I just strained it in small batchs. I really didn't need to let it drain for 20-30 mins like it's been said, although I did stain for 20 just to be safe. towards the end I just take the strainer and move it up and down (abruptly changing direction at the bottom is what forces the water out). Not so much at the top (unless I want WBS all over the place). I've got the 3rd batch out of 4 going (the last is only 3 jars). Tomorrow when they're all cool, I'll inoculate and start incubating. I'm always open to suggestions along the way so keep them comments a'comin'!

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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5277425 - 02/08/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Aight, so I inoculated 8 jars of each strain, and then put 4 on the bottom and 4 on the top of the incubator so no one strain has it better. Now we play the waiting game...











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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5279541 - 02/08/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Buying spores on the internet seems like the most unsafest way to grow. Won't they put yer a$$ on a list and come knocking on your door?


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Jeeter]
    #5279560 - 02/08/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Shroomery sponsors are totally discrete. So long as you use one of them, then you're safe.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Jeeter]
    #5279567 - 02/08/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Buying spores on the internet seems like the most unsafest way to grow. Won't they put yer a$$ on a list and come knocking on your door?




Spores are legal to sell, but if you're really paranoid, mail your order in and pay by cash or money order. I don't know of any vendor that keeps records of mailed in orders. Credit card orders will leave a paper trail.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: FooMan]
    #5281416 - 02/09/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

So how many days should I wait to look in the incubator?


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5281429 - 02/09/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You can check on your jars as much as you want really. 4 times a day if you like. The only problem with that is you'll hardly notice any progress at all. If I were you, I'd try to wait an entire week. By that time there should be a bit of growth, but probably not that much, depending on how long it took the spores to germinate.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5285410 - 02/10/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

So I've checked the temps with jars in the Tub this time. When the TiT is empty (jars are in it, but the jars are empty), the bottom is about 86 and the top is 82. With the inoculated jars inside, the bottom is 89 and the top is 84. The heater is set to 86 and in both cases (either empty jars or inoculated jars) I had them wrapped with a towel as you can see in some of my pictures.

Here's pictures of where I had the therm in both cases.

Bottom layer


The temp from the bottom layer (It dropped 1 degree from the time I took it out to the time got the picture right.


This is where the therm sits when on the top layer (when it reads 84). The temp in this pic is NOT right, it was taken right after I put it back and it had been outside for quite a while. This is just to show you where it's placed, it should be registering 84.


Also, What I think I'm seeing in some of the jars are the spores germinating.





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Edited by Solidcell (02/10/06 04:16 PM)


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5286560 - 02/10/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, it's only been 2 days and the Equadors are already leaving the other strains in the dust. I'm past my upload limit for the day so i can only upload 2 of the 4 pictures I took. Check out these EQs:





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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: Solidcell]
    #5286737 - 02/10/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what the hell i've never seen myc growing like that in little dots?? Looks good though. How dark were your syringes?


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: nuk1m]
    #5286759 - 02/10/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm. Last time I had little dots like that, I believe it was a yeast contam. Better watch those jars.


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Re: First Grow Log, WBS and 50/50+ Casing [Re: gourmetgrower]
    #5286770 - 02/10/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Should I keep them in the incubator with the others?


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