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InvisiblePsychonaught
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Morel Growth parameters?
    #5272816 - 02/07/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Any one have this info? I am taking a stab at the morel.


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InvisiblePsychonaught
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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5272839 - 02/07/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Found the info I needed. I had already knocked up wbs jars. Guess we will see if it works. If so I will spawn it to....

Prepare the "supersoil" substrate, the standard mixture is as follows: 20 percent sand, 30 percent soil, 50 percent organic material composed of 80 percent small wood chips, 10 percent rice hulls, 5 percent soybean meal, 5 percent sphagnum. Correct the ph with lime to 7.1-7.3. Mix well. Saturate with H2O. Pasteurize in trays or fill sterile trays with pasteurized mixture. Trays should allow for slow drainage.
Separate the sclerotia by hand from the grain spawn. Divide larger pieces if desired. Gather sclerotia from several different isolates. For each tray of substrate, inoculate with about 1,500-4,000 cc sclerotium per meter of substrate.
Refrigerate for about one month at temperatures just above freezing (35-40 degrees F.).
Remove from refrigeration. Allow the substrate to return to 65-70 degrees F.
"Flood" with sterile H2O. Leave for 24 hours, then allow to drain slowly. Optionally apply casing to 1/2 inch thick (see Stamets recommendation for casing).
Allow 7-10 days @ 65-70F for formation of primordia. Location should be dark with one to two air exchanges per hour.
Once primordia have formed, you may break out a moderately priced bottle of champagne, or perhaps a nice "methode-champenoise" California selection. I recommend a lovely Schramsberg Blanc-de-Noirs. Before it goes to your head, though, you should: Adjust your substrate to 60 percent moisture, relative humidity to 85-95 percent, air temperature to 70-73 degrees F., and air exchanges to six to eight per hour. Light should be maintained on an on/off 12 hour cycle. Regular grow lights may be used. Alternatively, mild indirect or shaded natural light, possibly supplemented with artificial light during the short-day seasons, should work as well.
In three to seven more days, adjust parameters for full fruit-body maturation: Substrate moisture 50 percent, relative humidity 85 percent, air temp 10-15 degrees C., and fresh air exchange at 6 to 8 per hour.


What a PITA!! But I wanted to use the spores.


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5272908 - 02/07/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why don't you try outdoor, a guerilla style grow first?


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #5282712 - 02/09/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

YidakiMan said:
Why don't you try outdoor, a guerilla style grow first?




Guerilla? I must be missing something...


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: jmg5]
    #5284377 - 02/10/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Guerilla growing means growing on property that is not yours.


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: Pinback]
    #5288345 - 02/11/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Pinback said:
Guerilla growing means growing on property that is not yours.




I know what guerilla means, I was asking why you would "guerilla grow" morels?  That makes absolutely no sense.

peace  :mushroom2:


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: jmg5]
    #5291098 - 02/12/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

it doesn't have to be illegal to guerilla grow something....maybye the poster does not have acess to his/her own property..


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: xxanxx]
    #5298635 - 02/14/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Don't have access to his or her own property? ...OK thats it I'm shutting you off you've had enough!


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: Psychonaught]
    #5302895 - 02/15/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, I need to put down the bong sometimes......sheesh

Anyway, I completely retract the above post, but will leave it for comical value. Cheers


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: xxanxx]
    #5733090 - 06/10/06 02:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you should stay closer to what the patent says instead of that clandestine method.


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: AcidHorse]
    #5733100 - 06/10/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the url that last guy posted can be found here
http://www.thefarm.org/mushroom/morel.html
but don't use the instructions or you'll be wasting your time.
Instead download the patent for the method and analyze the differences and you'll see what I mean.
the patent is here --> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4594809.pdf

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4866878.pdf

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4757640.pdf

be sure to follow the step where it says "you must allow mycelia from the sclerotia to grow about 10 days (prior to)/before feeding" and also be sure to follow the step where it says "(Subsequently to)/After feeding, a little bit of moisture is added".


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: AcidHorse]
    #5734474 - 06/10/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Stamets says he followed the patent several times and cannot get it to work because they are very vague about some parts of the process.

For obvious reasons, someone will figure it out and spill the beans eventually.


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Re: Morel Growth parameters? [Re: AcidHorse]
    #5745832 - 06/13/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Go for it man let me know how it works. I approve of anybody trying something different. Just because we have a patented way to do it, doesn't mean its the best. Unless somebody is trying to dink around with stuff and do it different. We'll never know what works best.


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