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OfflineBMArts
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Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5
    #5272285 - 02/07/06 03:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well I have a friend who wants to experience a levle 5. He has some experience with psychadelics (dropped Acid a couple times, taken shrooms a couple times) but hasn't had levle 5 yet.
He's interested in the spiritual aspect of it (and nothing else like: ooh yeah cool lets trip). He would also like to prepare himself for it properly, like by fasting and stuff....
But yeah I just thought I'd ask are there any rituals any of you guys go through before experiencing this to make the spiritual experience as good as possible...
Also how much would you say taking... he's gonna be taking fresh shrooms I was thinking between 50 and 80 grams. Problem is we wont know how pottent the shrooms are since he'll be the first tring them, but I think he'd rather take a bit to much and experience the whole thing (he could deal with it) than not get off to levle 5..
Any sugestions?
Thanks guys


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: BMArts]
    #5272580 - 02/07/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Tell him not to try for a level 5. It will come, but not when forced. He can prepare by simply being in a comfortable place he knows well (a sitter would help too). It will also help for your friend to clear his mind entirely before tripping. But other than that, it's more of a chance thing. When the time comes, you just have to hope you're ready for it... kinda like actually death.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5272584 - 02/07/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

level 5's have had a tendancy of sneaking up on me when I least expect them.

This can both be a good, and a bad thing :smile:


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5272587 - 02/07/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Also: if there are certain places, movies, or music that hold special meaning to him, I'd say make sure those make their way into the trip somehow...


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5272626 - 02/07/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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AlwaysFlowin said:
Tell him not to try for a level 5. It will come, but not when forced. He can prepare by simply being in a comfortable place he knows well (a sitter would help too). It will also help for your friend to clear his mind entirely before tripping. But other than that, it's more of a chance thing. When the time comes, you just have to hope you're ready for it... kinda like actually death.




Right he isn't trying to force it in that sense. He is going to take what comes his way in a greatfull manner no matter what it brings him.

So say you are getting ready for(what due to doseage should become) a pretty intense trip, are there any rituals you do for going about it... like you mention clearing your mind. Is this anything you do conciously through meditation..
I'm just interested in knowing how ppl prepare themselve for such an experience, wether it becomes level 5 or not isn't really important in the end. Setting will probably be in Nature (like a forest or something) and I will be sitting him either on a low dose or sober.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: BMArts]
    #5272653 - 02/07/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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BMArts said:
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AlwaysFlowin said:
Tell him not to try for a level 5. It will come, but not when forced. He can prepare by simply being in a comfortable place he knows well (a sitter would help too). It will also help for your friend to clear his mind entirely before tripping. But other than that, it's more of a chance thing. When the time comes, you just have to hope you're ready for it... kinda like actually death.




Right he isn't trying to force it in that sense. He is going to take what comes his way in a greatfull manner no matter what it brings him.

So say you are getting ready for(what due to doseage should become) a pretty intense trip, are there any rituals you do for going about it... like you mention clearing your mind. Is this anything you do conciously through meditation..
I'm just interested in knowing how ppl prepare themselve for such an experience, wether it becomes level 5 or not isn't really important in the end. Setting will probably be in Nature (like a forest or something) and I will be sitting him either on a low dose or sober.




I wouldn't even attempt a high dosage trip outside my home or some controlled enviroment. Don't get me wrong, I love to trip out in nature but when attempting to reach the higher levels there is too much that can go wrong eg. police, other people etc. to risk it imo.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: BMArts]
    #5272659 - 02/07/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My general 'trip routine' regardless of substance/ammount.

1. Ensure all school-work that needs to be done is done, nothing is worse then getting stuck in a thought loop of 'dammit, I need to finish the homework' and wanting the trip to end so you can do the homework.

2. Clean my apartment / tripping area. Mess and clutter will drive me nuts when tripping, so the day that I trip, I tend to do a big clean

3. Call my parents if I havnt talked to them in a few days. Me and my folks are pretty close, and tend to be in touch once every few days. If I havnt talked to them in awhile, the chances of them calling while tripping increase kind of thing. So, I like to touch base with family before I trip.

4. Have anything I may need during the trip, ready and in an easy to find location. ie: I tend to like going for walks while tripping, so I'll have my keys/shoes/etc in an easy to find location. Trying to rummage through your apartment trying to find keys when the world is moving around you can be a fusturating task.

5. Have the music I think I may want to listen to in playlists already so I can just click and go, and not need to hunt around (I usually end up hunting around a bit anyways, but the less, the better)

6. Make sure any other obligations I need to attend to in the next day or two are dealt with. Either it be going grocery shopping, or getting something done for work. But, in short : I want to have the day of the trip, and the day after the trip being 'dealt with', so I dont need to worry about them while tripping.

and, some tips for the actual trip itself.

1. Expect neasuea, dont get freaked out if you start to feel sick. While there are ways to minimize/get rid of it (ie: smoke weed, have some ginger root), there is still a chance your gut will end up feeling gross.

2. Dont fight it, while doing a heroic dose can help open the door to a level 5 trip, if you fight the mushrooms, you wont get there, and will just have a bad trip instead. You need to feel really comfortable with 'just letting go'

3. Prepare for everything, plan for nothing. Think of the things that you MAY want to do while tripping, and get things prepared for it, but dont actually have a set plan on doing them - you may, or may not make use of them, but having things prepared makes life alot easier

4. Be relaxed, dont force it - if you are trying to force a strong trip, you are too focused on it to really let go. Simply relax and let the mushrooms do their thing.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: kaniz]
    #5272669 - 02/07/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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kaniz said:
4. Be relaxed, dont force it - if you are trying to force a strong trip, you are too focused on it to really let go. Simply relax and let the mushrooms do their thing.




Thank you for your post... this is the main point I think. Comming into a mindset in which you can let go... that is where you want to be before taking them I'd think (or if possible of course in every waking moment...) thank you for sharing on how you try to achieve getting into this mood.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: BMArts]
    #5272708 - 02/07/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

not a problem. and, the best way for getting into that mood is making sure EVERYTHING is done (homework, cleaning, errands, talk with parents, etc).

Once I feel 100% confident thats done, its much easier to let go.


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Re: Tips for someone wanting to reach levle 5 [Re: kaniz]
    #5274503 - 02/07/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i read somewhere on this site about someone having a really intense trip and they way they dealt with it was to just lay down on there bed and close there eyes, letting the mushrooms do there own thing. I really liked the sound of that and i plan to do that next time that i trip whether its good or bad. Shrooms have so much to offer and if you push them or try to direct your trip to go the way you want it, it could end up bad.


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