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HUBSonDUBS


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To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer?
#5270770 - 02/06/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I asked once but didnt get a clear answer. I have heard never to incubate hpoo but when putting a casing layer on should i incubate it for another 3 days so i get some growth on thecasing and then put it in the FC or should i just case it and put in FC?
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agar
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: HUBSonDUBS]
#5270788 - 02/06/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I add a casing layer, then incubate 3 or 4 more days. Before exposing to light & FAE.
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Wronguy
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: HUBSonDUBS]
#5270917 - 02/06/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would incubate in that I would reintroduce the cased substrate to the same conditions that were used during the spawn phase of the grow. I would not add any additional heat during this part of the grow though.
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hyphae
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: agar]
#5271006 - 02/06/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said: I add a casing layer, then incubate 3 or 4 more days. Before exposing to light & FAE.
Good advice from an old hand alright! Also I'll add coir casings as well as aggressive myc can often be put right into the fruiting chamber depending on the casing layers thickness of course. Incubation temps 82-84F. are optimal
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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HUBSonDUBS


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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: hyphae]
#5271017 - 02/06/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well if i let the hpoo colonize in about 75 deg temp should i hjust leave it out in that temp too?
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mskip23
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: hyphae]
#5271022 - 02/06/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I put mine right in the fruiting chamber ...but it might take longer to see pins
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hyphae
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: HUBSonDUBS]
#5271037 - 02/06/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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HUBSonDUBS said: well if i let the hpoo colonize in about 75 deg temp should i hjust leave it out in that temp too?
Yep just leave it. Incubating during the spawn run gives you the pinning temp trigger is all and I'll always recommend getting the best bang for the buck/effort! GL
BTW it's the coincidence of this factors (pinning triggers) optimally that give you those prolific pinsets consistantly!
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Fraggin
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: hyphae]
#5271198 - 02/06/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Someone freaked out on me for the fact that I put hpoo spawned with wbs in my TiT. So, should I put it in the TiT right after adding a casing layer? Or just let it set at room temp (73F) with foil on top?
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hyphae
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: Fraggin]
#5271219 - 02/06/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It won't hurt either way if your TiT is big enough to handle it that would be beneficial to you and yours of course depending on your choice of casings as well as your casing depth.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Fraggin
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: hyphae]
#5271235 - 02/06/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the casing is 60/40 verm/coir 3/4" casing 6" substrate. I can put it in the tit if need be. I just stuck the probe on top of the casing and it looks as if the temp on top of the casing layer (out of the tit) is about 75F. And the inside temp of the tit is 86F
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musher_420
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: Fraggin]
#5271293 - 02/06/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fraggin said: Someone freaked out on me for the fact that I put hpoo spawned with wbs in my TiT. So, should I put it in the TiT right after adding a casing layer? Or just let it set at room temp (73F) with foil on top?
The only thing is that you may have to turn down the fish tank heater. For me the large h/poo trays put off significantly more heat then my jars did.
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hyphae
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: Fraggin]
#5271311 - 02/06/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd throw it in the TiT for a few days to speed up the casing colonization a bit. Read my pinning strategy and keep that casing very moist, after a few days take a clean fork wiped with alcohol and lift a little casing to determine the myc's progress once it's within 1/4-1/8" throw it in the FC. If possible lower that TiT a couple of degrees for these casings.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Fraggin
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Re: To incubate hpoo or not after casing layer? [Re: hyphae]
#5271342 - 02/06/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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cool. I'll try that. It looks like the poo casings are 5 degrees warmer than room temperature. That's cool..
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