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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5309616 - 02/17/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Plastic PET bottles can hamdle enormous amounts of pressure. Over pressured ferments lead to bad tastes. I have had PET bottles so hard that they flattened out the little knobs on e the bottom that make it stand up. The bottom was perfectly round and the cap was like a sphere! I unleashed it in the backgarden. It stood shaking for about 5 seconds and ERUPTED! like a fucking volcano! went up higher than a 2 storey house. Wormwood is extremely simple to grow.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: blackout]
#5309654 - 02/17/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Plastic PET bottles can hamdle enormous amounts of pressure. Over pressured ferments lead to bad tastes. I have had PET bottles so hard that they flattened out the little knobs on e the bottom that make it stand up. The bottom was perfectly round and the cap was like a sphere! I unleashed it in the backgarden. It stood shaking for about 5 seconds and ERUPTED! like a fucking volcano! went up higher than a 2 storey house.
Imagine one, especially a half full one, to generate so much pressure that it blows by itself! These PET-bottle explosions have been described as "as loud as an M80" [military firecracker - grenade simulant] and they would create a splatter of white foam of fermenting sugarwater. In addition to that because of the steady pressure generation there is a phase in which they will sit there, but burst when handled.
The bottom line is to not allow pressure to build.
And yes, wormwood is easy to grow and its wonderfully fragrant when fresh or immediately upon drying. (in the shade at room temperature)

If you can grow your own (you can in the windowsill but its best in the garden) then do so. Absinth is sometrhing you will rarely drink so a small patch will go a long way. The Ethno Garden is *the* Shroomery forum for growing wormwood.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5323809 - 02/21/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: sever]
#5324213 - 02/21/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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When it stops bubbling (and hopefully becomes clear) it's distilling time. The trick is to get as little of the yeast with it as possible, so it's best not to shake. Your yeast may already be done, or take a while longer.
Yesterday I harvested 800ml of 75%/150 proof btw
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5324551 - 02/21/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: When it stops bubbling (and hopefully becomes clear) it's distilling time. The trick is to get as little of the yeast with it as possible, so it's best not to shake. Your yeast may already be done, or take a while longer.
If it stops bubbling it doesn't mean anything. Ideally you need a hydrometer to see if the gravity remains the same for 2 days in a row. If it is, then fermentation is complete. You can stick it in the refridgerator and it will cause the yeast to flocculate faster. You could have used an English ale yeast from White Labs, Wyeast, Safale, Coopers, etc. You could also easily just siphon the fermented liquid into another container leaving the yeast behind, and let it settle out even longer. You could also use a fining agent, gelatin, isinglass, sparkalloid hot or cold mix, or benotite.
Since bread yeast hardly used for fermentation of alcoholic beverages, I don't know how high the attenuation, optimum fermentation temp, flocculation, and alcohol tolerance characteristics will be.
There are yeast specifically designed for this. Alcotec makes a distiller's yeast and so does SuperStart. In the right conditions, Alcotec's 48-hour Turbo yeast will will ferment up to 14% in 48 hours, and up to 20% in 5 days, yields 20 liters, but they all require yeast nutrient. With the right yeast, you could safely use up to 365 grams of cane sugar per liter of water and not worry about the yeast not being able to ferment out the sugars completely.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: daussaulit]
#5327384 - 02/22/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most bread/beer yeasts will be lucky to get past 10-12% bread yeasts will give off flavours. Molasses can be used in place or in addition to sugars and gives nutrients and a nice taste, i.e. rum. You could easily knock up a tiny amazing still, most growers will already have the aquarium heater. Many will also have tupperware containers with holes in them.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: blackout]
#5331135 - 02/23/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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A couple of days ago I did a second stilling run, this a bit differently.
In this distillation I went (roughly) 6 liter --> 1.6 liter 44% 1.6 liter 44% --> 0.8 liter 74%
Please note how the process I did first yielded 0.5 liter 80% but that this modified process produced 0.8 liter 74% which means an overall yield of 65% which is far more than the 44% yield of the former process.
I had 4 people test-taste a 1:1 dilution with mineral water (creating 36% alcohol) which they all considered to be good drinking!
I definately hold on to the recipy of adding 5ml of glycerine (pharmaceutical grade) to every liter of 70+% alcohol. This is widely used as a smoothening agent, and it increases the flavor, makes it more silky on the tongue and stick to the glass properly.
It's rich stuff, it has a bit of a yeasty flavor to it, but in a way that enhances the taste, meaning just enough fusels to be tasty. So overall I recommend:
8 liter ---still---> 2 liter ---still---> 1 liter
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5339215 - 02/25/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: sever]
#5344313 - 02/27/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sever, you're not researching enough!
You almost doused your room with fermenting sugarwater because you closed off the fermentation, and now you're missing some basics of distilling.
Indeed, you separate most of the alcohol from most of the water (and yeast flavors) by distilling and only collecting a portion, in this case the first 1/4 of it followed by a second run, taking the first half of that.
Be careful and study up!
If more than 1/4 but less than 1/2 has distilled in your first run you can take that and distill the first half from that.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5344416 - 02/27/06 07:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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so you are saying one could basically make "real" absinthe with high thujong levels with this still ? peace ohm
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: ohmatic]
#5346851 - 02/27/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: sever]
#5348626 - 02/28/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wet cardboard is the smell of "tails", i.e. the end of the alcohol, so you distilled for too long. Not to worry, distillation will not create new compound just separate what is already in there, if you would drink your wash there is no reason not to drink the distillate (unless you brew up massive amounts and sparate the methanol first!). Second distillation is always advisable. Also try and get some copper in the vapour trail which absorbs nasty smelling sulphides.
Distilling can be dangerous so please study www.homedistiller.org ALL the indo you need is there.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: sever]
#5374558 - 03/07/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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1. I sealed the bottle during the first 24 hrs.. (whoops) 2. I periodically stirred the bottle for the first 6 days. (hmm) 3. I accidentally poured the entire contents of the wash (which was an opque yellow) into the pot. and then the coffee filter burst on me. 4. I distilled off too much liquid due to lack of understanding (but my sudden realization kicked in )

Which reminds me I want to see that new Inspector Clouseau movie!
Like said: distillation doesnt make new stuff, it only takes stuff out so your product becomes healthier when you distill.
But really - if you want to get serious, get Turbo Yeast. Thats a packet and all you need to add is sugar and water. Ready in 24-48 hours.
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5412811 - 03/17/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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250 grams of sugar translates into how much (roughly) in cups, or pints, or something that us dumb Americans ( well I guess only I am) can easily convert?
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: NumberThree]
#5413219 - 03/17/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nevermind, I found a converter
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#5417028 - 03/18/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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can you make a much more detailed "tek" for this?
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Yarry]
#5524365 - 04/17/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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can you make a much more detailed "tek" for this?
I'll probably do that 
To everyone who sat around doing nothing:
This afternoon I hauled in another small batch. Effectively I turned 1.5kg of sugar into 0.8 liter of 70% beetsugar rum (you got to name it something )
Yes, thats 0.8 liter of 140 proof at a cost of under $2.50 using a wok setup w/ double distilling.
Total it took a week of fermentation and 4 hours of stillwork.
This really is only interesting for personal use, if you had to pay yourself for the hours then buying Everclear is cheaper, this is purely small taters hobby stuff, a nice thing to drink once every so often or to present to a friend.
The tech side of things:
1.5 kg of sugar can at most yield 915ml of 200-proof spirit I got 0.8 ltr 140-proof = 560ml 200-proof = 61% yield
Not bad eh! I got 61% of the maximum possible yield using a wokstill 
0.8ltr 70% is equivalent to a 4 gallon partykeg of lager.
I added the mandatory 0.5% glycerin (its texture tastes so much better that way, really smooth) and put it in my wine cabinet
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle ^_^ [Re: Asante]
#8702527 - 07/30/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the absinthe recipe you gave with the oils, do you just drop the oils right into it, stir, and sip? Or is there some heating or something that must be done?
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Re: Homemade Vodka Wiccanstyle **UPDATED -- Now with Absinthe recipy** [Re: Asante]
#8721832 - 08/03/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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i liked distilling with a wok stil. its a neat process and even neater if you use a glass bowl. Hey man how would it turn out to distill a gallon of cheap grape wine in the wok still? would that make good tasting spirits?
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