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    #5268714 - 02/06/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hey I just got some E and my friend strongly suggests me not taking it. She is telling me it can result in chemical inbalances and fuck up my serotonin level. Is there some truth behind this?

Thanks.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268728 - 02/06/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

E does cause you to release alot of serotonin at once. Its how it works, makes your brain release all the happy in one big push :smile:

All in all - E isnt /that/ bad for you. There are some health factors and risks involved (as with any drug), and I do think that long-term abuse of the drug can lead to some brain problems - really, all you need to do is look at a 40yr old E-tard who can barely form a sentance to see the long term effects of it. (They are a scary bunch)

But, occasional use of the drug isnt going to be that bad for you IMO (ie: once every few months). But, if you start doing it a few times every week, then yeah - thats going down a road of no good.

While 100% pure MDMA isnt all that bad for you, chances are if its in a pill - it's been cut with other things which CAN be bad for you (ie: meth), but still - aslong as you keep your use in check and dont become an e-tard, go ahead and have fun.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268742 - 02/06/06 08:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Beyond the health risks (which are well documented and quite easy to find) there lies the question of E's benefits: which I see as non-existent. Why exactly do you want to take E? Purely recreational? Personally, I think Ecstasy related discussion belongs elsewhere (other boards).


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268750 - 02/06/06 08:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm just curious and want to try new things. I'll probably take this pill with an 1/8 of mushrooms.


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268760 - 02/06/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I think Ecstasy related discussion belongs elsewhere (other boards).




Whys that? People talk about all types of drugs on this forum, we come here for help because there are a lot of knowledgeable people who can help us out. If you don't want to talk about E you don't have to read the post.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268762 - 02/06/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't recomend hippyflipping on your first time rolling and mixing with a full eight would likely result in a very intense experience.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268763 - 02/06/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

To me, that's abuse. Why take away from a great mushroom experience by mixing it with something that is bound to have a whole lot of unnatural and unhealthy ingredients cut in to it?

I'm guessing there is so much more you have yet to experience in life that won't potentially turn you mindless and erratic (mood-wise).


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268769 - 02/06/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't want to talk about E.  But I do want to do my best to help you where I can.  I don't think the potential risks of E are anywhere near worth the benefits.  What are the benefits?  Seratonin rush and feeling happy?  To me, I'd prefer something that allows me to access myself and understand how to make the seratonin rush naturally :smile:


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268771 - 02/06/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

And lastly, this isn't a site to discuss "drugs". "This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about magic mushrooms so people can make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies"


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268791 - 02/06/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A hippyflip (MDMA+Mush) is a REALLY powerfull expierence, and not one that you should write off as 'abusing' the drugs.

Just because /you/ dont see the possible benifits of MDMA, doesnt mean that there arnt any. MDMA, just as any other substance (including mush) can be (ab)used for 'purely recreational uses' - and I'll admit, most of the time I've done E, I just wanted to go out and dance all night, any other benifits were 2ndary to just dancing my ass off and having fun.

That being said, benifits?

- increased emotional awarness.
- brings to surface issues that I may not of wanted to deal with, but it forces me to
- opened me up to a new range of emotions (highs and lows) that I had been blocking myself from accepting before
- increased empathy towards me and my friends

Ther have also been times, where after a good roll - my all around mood/outlook has been greatly increased for weeks after.

Having sex on MDMA with someone that you love can be a truely mind-blowing expierence, and also strengthen the bond that the two have.

That being said, it can also be very easy to start abusing MDMA. There was a period where I was rolling 3-4 times a month. In the last 8 months I've greatly cut back, and only do it once every few months now .

But, MDMA also helped me realize a more social and out-going side of myself. One that I didnt really recgonize before. For a while, I'd /only/ be that way while rolling. However, I've started to be that way without using MDMA or other substances to get it.

For a friend of mine - for a long time, he was emotionally bottled up and closed off to everyone, and generally very depressed. After his 1st time doing E, on the comedown at home, he just broke down crying for 3 or 4 hours non-stop, at the end of it - he felt like he was a new person, and better able to open up and connect with others, and that 1st roll has changed him for the rest of his life.

Just because some drugs are more inclined to recreational use than others, does not mean that they cant provide benifits beyond a fun time.

That being said - MDMA is a fun great time :smile:

However, this exact forum isnt the best forum for this discussion - it should be moved to Other Drugs.


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268793 - 02/06/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This isn't a philosophical thread.

Your intentions are good, I suppose, but technically you're hijacking the thread :crazy:


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Re: E [Re: Konnrade]
    #5268806 - 02/06/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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And lastly, this isn't a site to discuss "drugs". "This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about magic mushrooms so people can make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies"




Hmmm... then why are their subcategories for posts, listing drugs other then mushrooms? As for misinformation, that was what I was trying to do, find out if the information I heard was correct or not.

I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology.

Perhaps an 1/8 would be a bit to much. Maybe I'll try a 1/16.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268811 - 02/06/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why don't you just take the pill for this time so that you get an idea of what MDMA feels like.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268813 - 02/06/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

OK OK. I think there is some misunderstandings here.

MDMA= another story.

If he had said he obtained pure MDMA, I would have responded far differently. I'm simply trying to turn the talk away from "Ecstasy"- which as we know, does not = MDMA (5 does not equal 6, even though they are one number off!!!). Just because something contains something beneficial, doesn't mean we should mark the former as beneficial...


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    #5268815 - 02/06/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That sounds like a good idea. I don't know how many times I want to do E. I want like the effects but I really don't want to take it more then once or twice.


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268819 - 02/06/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Last thread hijack:

It seems to me, based on your reactions to my attempts at help (albeit indirect), that you are pretty set on taking this pill. So do it. I can't change your mind. But just ask yourself: why?


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268824 - 02/06/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ooops and last post... just caught this:

"I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology.

Um, I was not trying to belittle you in the least!  I was differentiating between mushrooms and "other drugs" :smile:  ... but honestly, my intentions are pure and I had no sarcasm in my voice (or text).


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268825 - 02/06/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Actually I'm not set, that's why I came here, were I set on taking it this thread would not exist.


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Re: E [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5268826 - 02/06/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Ooops and last post... just caught this:

"I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology.

Um, I was not trying to belittle you in the least!  I was differentiating between mushrooms and "other drugs" :smile:  ... but honestly, my intentions are pure and I had no sarcasm in my voice (or text).




I'm sorry, it read off a bit like that or maybe its just because I'm a sarcastic bastard.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5268966 - 02/06/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

MDMA has been used medicinally in the past for treating things like severe cases of depression, etc... To say that it has absolutely no benefits is pretty much like saying "mushrooms have absolutely no benefits because some people have schitzophrenia". You've completely overlooked a big part of the drug.

In no way do I recommend anyone goes out and tries MDMA, and I've never done MDMA myself but I still think it's unfair to pester him about using it recreationally, that would be like me yelling at you for drinking at a party, and no matter what you say I highly doubt that alcohol is an enlightening spiritual experience (other than the amount of times you mutter the phrase "o god" when you've had too much).

Although I do agree that recreationally isn't the best way to do your drugs, some people may even benefit from just the recreational and social factor of it... (I know that being able to get into a conversation with someone I barely know would do me a lot of good just because of the confidence boost and experience...)

Although yes, "E" does contain a lot of other stuff, around here meth would be the most commonly used drug to cut meth, it's in small amounts but it's still there... I've known people who have gotten everything from meth to acid (or a drug similar to acid) and one report from a friend who suspected heroin to be in the pill (this was NOT confirmed other than by someone who had done heroin before and suggested that it might be in there, this would probably be rare at best, as I'm sure heroin would be expensive to press into pills...

Anyways, if you really want to do it and not just because everyone else is doing it but because a part of you feels that you need this experience for one reason or another then I'd say go for it, it'll just bother you if you don't...


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Re: E [Re: StickyWater]
    #5269290 - 02/06/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

MDMA can be a very positive experience, just because the majority of people use it irresopnsibly, don't write it off as um-important or useless.

If there are no other active "cuts" in the pill, then the damage from MDMA itself is not great, and has been grossly exagerrated.

I haven't dropped a pill in nearly 3 years, but I still look back fondly on the experiences I had, whether just for fun, or for actual learning purposes.

Also, there isn't heroin in pills. At least not in commercial circulation. As mentioned, it isn't particularly cost effective. Plus, there already is a pretty demanding market for it.....Meth on the other hand, I hear there is plenty of that being pressed up these days


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Re: E [Re: BamaBoomer]
    #5269589 - 02/06/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

www.thedea.org this site might help you decide lots information about it there. I would recommend it, its a great experience especially with a loved one or at a rave. You should take it by it self though not with the mushrooms. I hipplyflipped with low doses to give it a try and found I like both better by themselves.


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    #5269763 - 02/06/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I personally don't use E because I'm worried I would get addicted. I work with a girl whos done it and she recommended I stay away, I asked why and she said, "cause you're gonna want to do it again REALLY bad!"

I think everyone can agree that if you do get hooked on it, it can definetly have a major (negative) impact on your life, and for me personally, after thinking about the risks versus the benifits of using it, I decided to stay away from it. (tho I do hear it's very fun haha)


But that's just me...


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Re: E [Re: DyeGreen]
    #5269784 - 02/06/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, the thing with MDMA - its not chemically addictive, its more "OMG, that was sooo much fun, I want to do it again" type of thing.

I've found that theres been a few times that I've been out sober, and then had the 'urge' to do E - as "I want to have that fun again", but once I wait it out about 30-60 mins, the urge goes away, and I have a fun time 100% sober.


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    #5269841 - 02/06/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think you will find that MDMA is some what chemicaly addictive, and if it's cut with meth you have that to deal with to. That said, I have drunk alcohol without becoming an alcoholic, smoked cigeretes without becoming a smoker and I have also popped E a couple of times and I'm deffinatly not a pill-head.
Heavy use of E is seriously not good, but MDMA does have benificial uses and it can be very mind expanding.


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    #5269897 - 02/06/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Having never done E, I can safely say that it has nothing of value to offer.


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Re: E [Re: BamaBoomer]
    #5269902 - 02/06/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

e is all about seratonin.
but omg its defiently fun, i recommend it big time.
what did you pick up?


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Re: E [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5269982 - 02/06/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

E has become so associated with club culture that people seem to thing it is all it is good for, this is so not true, and anyone who has not tried it and says E has no benificialety has no ground to stand on!
My advice would be to take E seldomly and make each time count, and don't take stupid amounts, you don't need that much to get the benificial effects, and smoke weed on the comedown and make sure you eat well during the days before and after, and drink a good amount of lemonaid or fruit juice.


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    #5270043 - 02/06/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well being a person that has always been on MDMA with no more than 3 people around me, I think it is VERY beneficial. It like BULDOZING through a brick wall that you have put up around your mind since you were just a little lad. Most of the times I haved rolled I have been by myself maybe with a good book, a pen and some paper, some good music (Sometimes I listen to techno but usually just music that I listen to everyday), and a telephone (You sometimes do get in the mood to talk).

One bad thing that I personally have had happen to, is telling somebody somethign they didn't need to know.


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    #5270063 - 02/06/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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One bad thing that I personally have had happen to, is telling somebody somethign they didn't need to know.




Yes, that can be a bitch while rolling. :blush:


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    #5270177 - 02/06/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I also think that using E in a party context can provide benifits also. Mind you, with repeated abuse, the come-down starts to out-weigh the benifits.

But, I recall one time, I think it was my 2nd or 3rd time doing E. I did it at an outdoor party on a beach. I remeber dancing in the shallows of the water with my back to where the sun would be comming up from. Then, a really nice morning-psytrance song came on just as I turned around in time to feel the sun crest over the horizion and shine down on my face.

After the party was over, I spent another hour or two just hanging around the beach, enjoying the sun, then walked home (a good hour+ walk), for the week or two after, I felt very re-connected with myself, with nature, and my overall mood/energy had increased for the better for the weeks to follow.

People seem to dismiss "clubs and drugs" as being nothing but recreational and has 'no deeper value' - I say bullshit to that. Sure, for some people - all they may get out of a night of dancing is a 'fun time'. For me, dancing is a way of re-connecting with myself and my body, with those around me, as a HUGE stress release, and if its a 'party night out', the bond between me and my BF after the party is amazing. But while dancing, I can range from deep self-reflection on various issues, to simply not thinking at all and just being lost in the moment - both of which can be truely amazing.

We have a pretty good relationship to begin with IMO, but the 'play time' after the party, the talking, the opening up, the sex, are all also very benifical things for me.

I dont need the E to feel like that while dancing, nore do I need it with my BF - but, it sure does add a whole new level to things.

True, MDMA/E/whatever is an 'easy' drug - theres not much of a challenge to it (I find LSD and Mush can have difficult trials to go along with a good trip), but just because its easy and fun, doesnt mean that it cant provide value beyond a 'fucked up crazy night out'.


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Re: E [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5270408 - 02/06/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

Stonerguy said:

One bad thing that I personally have had happen to, is telling somebody somethign they didn't need to know.




Yes, that can be a bitch while rolling. :blush:




One thing I've always wanted to know is how bad is this exactly? What are the odds of saying something you're REALLY going to regret saying? Or are you still together enough to step in and tell yourself "this is something I REALLY shouldn't say"


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    #5270916 - 02/06/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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e is all about seratonin.
but omg its defiently fun, i recommend it big time.
what did you pick up?




Some purple pill with some guy with arrows for hands...


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5270925 - 02/06/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Also I'm probably going to do it alone and just listen to some music.


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    #5270963 - 02/06/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Stonerguy said:

One bad thing that I personally have had happen to, is telling somebody somethign they didn't need to know.




Yes, that can be a bitch while rolling. :blush:




One thing I've always wanted to know is how bad is this exactly? What are the odds of saying something you're REALLY going to regret saying? Or are you still together enough to step in and tell yourself "this is something I REALLY shouldn't say"




I'd like to know the answer to that one to i might be doing some E with this girl who's a friend from work but i really like her and i dunno if i'll end up saying something i'll regret later on that i didn't really want to say.


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Re: E [Re: MindFood]
    #5271046 - 02/06/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Who is to say what MIGHT come out of your mouth while intoxicated???

Personally, I never had an issue with it, but again, you just never know..


And for the origianl poster....Try and be around some friends when you do it. I found it more fun in social settings than solo, it can be a great bonding experience, even if you're the only one taking a pill.


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Re: E [Re: BamaBoomer]
    #5271273 - 02/06/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Most of my friends are againts me doing it, even my girlfriend who has done mushrooms with me before.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5271299 - 02/06/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You probably have more of a chance saying something you'll regret drunk than rolling.


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    #5271314 - 02/06/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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One bad thing that I personally have had happen to, is telling somebody somethign they didn't need to know.




Yes, that can be a bitch while rolling. :blush:




One thing I've always wanted to know is how bad is this exactly? What are the odds of saying something you're REALLY going to regret saying? Or are you still together enough to step in and tell yourself "this is something I REALLY shouldn't say"




I mean it isn't going to force you to say anything...  You will beable to controll yourself.


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Re: E [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5271613 - 02/06/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ah, alright, that's all I wanted to know, that was my biggest concern about taking E, I like to keep my life to myself, and I really don't mind opening up and sharing stuff about myself, there's just some stuff that just isn't meant to be shared


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Re: E [Re: StickyWater]
    #5271765 - 02/06/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Would it be cool for me to take E alone for my first time? Also are there any visual changes? My friend described it to me as a strobe effect.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5271790 - 02/06/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

>>Beyond the health risks (which are well documented and quite easy to find) there lies the question of E's benefits: which I see as non-existent. Why exactly do you want to take E? Purely recreational? Personally, I think Ecstasy related discussion belongs elsewhere (other boards).

When ecstasy was being used by psychoanalyists in the 70/80s they said that one session on e was liek a year of work together.
is that not a benefit??


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5272435 - 02/07/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Would it be cool for me to take E alone for my first time? Also are there any visual changes? My friend described it to me as a strobe effect.




You'll be fine. For me, E is a very social thing for me, going out to a club, being with friends - for me, the only reason I wouldnt do E at home alone, is I'd end up getting bored. Mind you, I'd just venture out to a club then to dance :smile:

Even if I have friends around and dropped E at home, I'll get fusturated after an hour or two and want to go out to a club to dance anyways :smile:

There are some visual changes, but its more colours appear brighter/crisper and more bold. If its MDA, or really good MDMA - you may 'trip' a bit, but not in the same sense as mushrooms or LSD.


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Re: E [Re: kaniz]
    #5272504 - 02/07/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

First time I did E it was at home with some very close friend (+some other people I know). I realy think you need to be around people to get the most out of it as the empathogenic effect is what makes E 'special'. If you are doing it on your own then make sure you have lots of things to do, like fun things, and a phone for when you want to talk to someone, or try http://www.titane.ca/igod/


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Re: E [Re: Evil_Cure]
    #5272535 - 02/07/06 08:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I rember my 2nd time doing E. Was at an outdoor party, I dropped the E and started to feel really chatty, but not 'confident' enough to go up and start talking to new people.

So, for about 40 mins, I flipped through my cellphone calling pretty much everyone on there, and had a long convo with my mom :smile:

once I got done talking with my mom, I finnaly felt comfortable enough to go and start talking with other people at the party and had a great time :smile:


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Re: E [Re: kaniz]
    #5272557 - 02/07/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

E is going to take away the filter in your brain basically. It will be impossible for you to be offended or insulted in any way and, if with others on E, it will be impossible to offend them or insult them either.

It's also easy to smack some sense into yourself about things you need to be doing in life and you gotta hope that it sticks. Elevated moods should follow for about a week (did for me).

And overall, the good majority of health concerns with MDMA have been disproven (broken chromasomes, holes in your brain) and it's mostly down to a matter of what it's cut with.

The first time (and only time so far) that I've done E, I didn't go all gay and stuff, I was just able to have really, incredible conversations and my imagination was running at hyperdrive. You don't see crazy shit or anything like that, but I was able to imagine having conversations with many people I know, with everyone I know at once, and it may as well have been real because I could imagine everything they'd say. Like, I had no prior knowledge of what they would say, as if my brain was coming up with this stuff behind my back and presenting a conversation FOR ME. Hard to explain. Just don't make any relationship decisions while on E. Re-evaluate the experience afterwards and go from there.


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Re: E [Re: supersapien]
    #5272570 - 02/07/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Picture a nice sunny warm day.
You are sitting on the front porch, it has a cover overtop providing shade
There are some curtians up, fluttering in the breeze
You are overlooking rolling hills with tall grass bending in the wind
White fluffy clouds forming smiling faces drift in the sky
You feel 100% content
You feel 100% at peace
You feel like everything is as it should be
Your friend comes out, and pours you a glass of tall, cool, refreshing iced tea
and you sit there, and share the most intense, deep and meaningful conversation that you've ever had
Birds chirp in the distance and a butterfly floats by and you just feel as if everything in the world is at peace and has it's own place.

that is what a good roll feels like.


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Re: E [Re: kaniz]
    #5272600 - 02/07/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

One of my friends said the day after is worthless; he didn't feel like smiling or frowning, just emotionless basically. I've heard of this before but didn't think it was this extreme.


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Re: E [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5272848 - 02/07/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Would I also be cool in public? Like If I took it now, hopped on a bus then train to meet my gf and friends?

Also my other friend told me im going to try and fuck everything that moves... i'd rather not.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5272874 - 02/07/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You should be fine in public, I've never really cared.

Your pupils will be big, and you may seem really jittery/chatty, but meh - no one is going to really notice or care.


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Re: E [Re: kaniz]
    #5273036 - 02/07/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Will the cold bother me?


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5273040 - 02/07/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm sorry for all these questions, I'm just thrown off about the fact its probably cut with other substances.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5273133 - 02/07/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

NAh, the cold won't bother you one bit!

MDMA raises your body temp, so you'll be warmer anyway...I guess you could catch a chill, but that would be a sensation in itself!

And as for "fucking anybody" or whatever......MDMA is a LOVE drug, not a SEX drug really. People often confuse the two.


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Re: E [Re: BamaBoomer]
    #5273150 - 02/07/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

MDMA can be a sex drug also. I ALWAYS roll with my girlfriend. We always end up in my bed naked doing all kinds of crazy shit. Alot of times people find it difficult to get an erection while on X. I don't know if it is the actual MDMA or the other substances. Just be careful. I have fucked for almost 8 hours or so on X. I guess we weren't really rolling the whole time. The peak only lasts a couple hours. But other times, I haven't been able to have sex at all.


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5273170 - 02/07/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry for the double post. I also know alot of people don't like MDMA because it is not natural. I highly disagree with this. It is my favorite drug of choice. It just needs to be used responsibly. I would probably rather roll than trip on shrooms.

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For a friend of mine - for a long time, he was emotionally bottled up and closed off to everyone, and generally very depressed. After his 1st time doing E, on the comedown at home, he just broke down crying for 3 or 4 hours non-stop, at the end of it - he felt like he was a new person, and better able to open up and connect with others, and that 1st roll has changed him for the rest of his life.




This also describes me. I was always bottled up. I can let things out now. It's cool. I've been using for about a year. Last summer I did it almost every weekend. But In the past few months i've only done it once or twice. It is a very god emotional drug. Hard to explain..I just love it. Haha.


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5273242 - 02/07/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

nice!


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5273256 - 02/07/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My tab has the "walking man" on it or something which I checked out only contained MDMA. but what the fuck do I know

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1442



this is what I have.


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5273287 - 02/07/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Walking men! HAH! They were like my 3rd pill ever. The batch I had were pretty damn good.


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5273351 - 02/07/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

poppin it now and heading to the city.
cya guys!


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Re: E [Re: Animals]
    #5273373 - 02/07/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Enjoy Man!!!!!!!! :thumbup:


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Re: E [Re: BamaBoomer]
    #5273406 - 02/07/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Another tip would be roll at night X_X. I only enjoy it when it is dark and night time. Don't know what it is about it.


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5274227 - 02/07/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Oooh, how did it go?!


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Re: E [Re: Evil_Cure]
    #5274595 - 02/07/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i have done it a few times it was cool had lots of fun i like to do it with my girlfriend at home i have done it with a group of people and it is still fun. i think it is more fun to turn the lights down put some good tunes and injoy the great body high. it does kinda make you feel like shit the next day but some pills are better then others dont take to much and drink like 1-2 bottles of water. now as far as hippy fliping i have never done it but it isnot unherd of. i think hat you should take the e wait a hour or so and if you are not rolling then take like take some shrooms. i have had e that that is really good and some that wernt. and i found that it is not addictive but there are always people hat take thing to far so dont be a E-tard have fun


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5274970 - 02/07/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well I don't want to start a new thread cause it may upset someone... I just picked upa some "Pure MDMA" in powder form. Can someone list other drugs with very similar effects as MDMA because I want to be prepared in case it may not be MDMA. Everyone I know who has tried it swears it has to MDMA but I am a skeptic I guess. This will be my second time rolling by the way.


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Re: E [Re: Tangerines]
    #5275448 - 02/07/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly I don't know what else could possibly compare to MDMA. It is a feeling all its own. You're not trippin', yuo're not slurred or slowed down, you're not cracked out, and you're not stupid. I, anyway, was extremely logical, even decided I could have gone to work and no one would have known except for big pupils. It seems to be a wonder drug.

Also want to add, whoever said up there that it can be life-changing, I would agree. Any drug can be life-changing, it's the specific effects that would depend on the person. A friend of mine is bottled up, I'm sure it will free him like never before. Shrooms changed my life though. It's all preferential.

Can't wait to hear how it goes. Keep us updated.


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Re: E [Re: supersapien]
    #5275531 - 02/07/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah a few of my friends were "bean-tards." This stuff was big throught the summer. It died down a bit for now. I imagine when summer hits it will be huge again. I honestly could use some. I have alot of stress right now. It is a GREAT stress reliever. I would LOVE to come across some powdered form. All I ever get are pills. ie:
Yellow Kangaroos were my first pill
Blue oakleys, blue walking men, brown coffee cups, blue dolphins, blue 3d or outpressed cherries, seahorses, scorpions, apples...god..i cant even remember them all. So many. The yellow kangaroos were great for a first time.


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Re: E [Re: Anonymous]
    #5276436 - 02/08/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hihi, I hope I'm of my meds by summer so I can do some E and maybe hippie flip..


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Re: E [Re: Evil_Cure]
    #5276610 - 02/08/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It was very interesting. I made a new post on the experience, I think its worth checking out, its not your average good time E post.


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