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Just Danson inthe Dark


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Hey I just got some E and my friend strongly suggests me not taking it. She is telling me it can result in chemical inbalances and fuck up my serotonin level. Is there some truth behind this?
Thanks.
Edited by Animals (02/06/06 08:09 AM)
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kaniz
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E does cause you to release alot of serotonin at once. Its how it works, makes your brain release all the happy in one big push 
All in all - E isnt /that/ bad for you. There are some health factors and risks involved (as with any drug), and I do think that long-term abuse of the drug can lead to some brain problems - really, all you need to do is look at a 40yr old E-tard who can barely form a sentance to see the long term effects of it. (They are a scary bunch)
But, occasional use of the drug isnt going to be that bad for you IMO (ie: once every few months). But, if you start doing it a few times every week, then yeah - thats going down a road of no good.
While 100% pure MDMA isnt all that bad for you, chances are if its in a pill - it's been cut with other things which CAN be bad for you (ie: meth), but still - aslong as you keep your use in check and dont become an e-tard, go ahead and have fun.
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AlwaysFlowin
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Beyond the health risks (which are well documented and quite easy to find) there lies the question of E's benefits: which I see as non-existent. Why exactly do you want to take E? Purely recreational? Personally, I think Ecstasy related discussion belongs elsewhere (other boards).
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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I'm just curious and want to try new things. I'll probably take this pill with an 1/8 of mushrooms.
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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AlwaysFlowin said: I think Ecstasy related discussion belongs elsewhere (other boards).
Whys that? People talk about all types of drugs on this forum, we come here for help because there are a lot of knowledgeable people who can help us out. If you don't want to talk about E you don't have to read the post.
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abrad84
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I wouldn't recomend hippyflipping on your first time rolling and mixing with a full eight would likely result in a very intense experience.
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AlwaysFlowin
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To me, that's abuse. Why take away from a great mushroom experience by mixing it with something that is bound to have a whole lot of unnatural and unhealthy ingredients cut in to it?
I'm guessing there is so much more you have yet to experience in life that won't potentially turn you mindless and erratic (mood-wise).
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AlwaysFlowin
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I don't want to talk about E. But I do want to do my best to help you where I can. I don't think the potential risks of E are anywhere near worth the benefits. What are the benefits? Seratonin rush and feeling happy? To me, I'd prefer something that allows me to access myself and understand how to make the seratonin rush naturally
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AlwaysFlowin
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And lastly, this isn't a site to discuss "drugs". "This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about magic mushrooms so people can make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies"
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kaniz
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A hippyflip (MDMA+Mush) is a REALLY powerfull expierence, and not one that you should write off as 'abusing' the drugs.
Just because /you/ dont see the possible benifits of MDMA, doesnt mean that there arnt any. MDMA, just as any other substance (including mush) can be (ab)used for 'purely recreational uses' - and I'll admit, most of the time I've done E, I just wanted to go out and dance all night, any other benifits were 2ndary to just dancing my ass off and having fun.
That being said, benifits?
- increased emotional awarness. - brings to surface issues that I may not of wanted to deal with, but it forces me to - opened me up to a new range of emotions (highs and lows) that I had been blocking myself from accepting before - increased empathy towards me and my friends
Ther have also been times, where after a good roll - my all around mood/outlook has been greatly increased for weeks after.
Having sex on MDMA with someone that you love can be a truely mind-blowing expierence, and also strengthen the bond that the two have.
That being said, it can also be very easy to start abusing MDMA. There was a period where I was rolling 3-4 times a month. In the last 8 months I've greatly cut back, and only do it once every few months now .
But, MDMA also helped me realize a more social and out-going side of myself. One that I didnt really recgonize before. For a while, I'd /only/ be that way while rolling. However, I've started to be that way without using MDMA or other substances to get it.
For a friend of mine - for a long time, he was emotionally bottled up and closed off to everyone, and generally very depressed. After his 1st time doing E, on the comedown at home, he just broke down crying for 3 or 4 hours non-stop, at the end of it - he felt like he was a new person, and better able to open up and connect with others, and that 1st roll has changed him for the rest of his life.
Just because some drugs are more inclined to recreational use than others, does not mean that they cant provide benifits beyond a fun time.
That being said - MDMA is a fun great time 
However, this exact forum isnt the best forum for this discussion - it should be moved to Other Drugs.
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Konnrade
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This isn't a philosophical thread.
Your intentions are good, I suppose, but technically you're hijacking the thread
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I find your lack of faith disturbing
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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AlwaysFlowin said: And lastly, this isn't a site to discuss "drugs". "This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about magic mushrooms so people can make intelligent and informed decisions about what they put in their bodies"
Hmmm... then why are their subcategories for posts, listing drugs other then mushrooms? As for misinformation, that was what I was trying to do, find out if the information I heard was correct or not.
I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology. Perhaps an 1/8 would be a bit to much. Maybe I'll try a 1/16.
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abrad84
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Why don't you just take the pill for this time so that you get an idea of what MDMA feels like.
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AlwaysFlowin
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OK OK. I think there is some misunderstandings here.
MDMA= another story.
If he had said he obtained pure MDMA, I would have responded far differently. I'm simply trying to turn the talk away from "Ecstasy"- which as we know, does not = MDMA (5 does not equal 6, even though they are one number off!!!). Just because something contains something beneficial, doesn't mean we should mark the former as beneficial...
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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That sounds like a good idea. I don't know how many times I want to do E. I want like the effects but I really don't want to take it more then once or twice.
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AlwaysFlowin
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Last thread hijack:
It seems to me, based on your reactions to my attempts at help (albeit indirect), that you are pretty set on taking this pill. So do it. I can't change your mind. But just ask yourself: why?
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AlwaysFlowin
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Ooops and last post... just caught this:
"I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology.
Um, I was not trying to belittle you in the least! I was differentiating between mushrooms and "other drugs" ... but honestly, my intentions are pure and I had no sarcasm in my voice (or text).
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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Actually I'm not set, that's why I came here, were I set on taking it this thread would not exist.
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Just Danson inthe Dark


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AlwaysFlowin said: Ooops and last post... just caught this:
"I'm also sorry for calling them "drugs", I apologize that I don't prey to mushrooms spirits and do dances summoning their awesome powers. Don't try and belittle me because of terminology.
Um, I was not trying to belittle you in the least! I was differentiating between mushrooms and "other drugs" ... but honestly, my intentions are pure and I had no sarcasm in my voice (or text).
I'm sorry, it read off a bit like that or maybe its just because I'm a sarcastic bastard.
Edited by Animals (02/06/06 08:52 AM)
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StickyWater
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MDMA has been used medicinally in the past for treating things like severe cases of depression, etc... To say that it has absolutely no benefits is pretty much like saying "mushrooms have absolutely no benefits because some people have schitzophrenia". You've completely overlooked a big part of the drug.
In no way do I recommend anyone goes out and tries MDMA, and I've never done MDMA myself but I still think it's unfair to pester him about using it recreationally, that would be like me yelling at you for drinking at a party, and no matter what you say I highly doubt that alcohol is an enlightening spiritual experience (other than the amount of times you mutter the phrase "o god" when you've had too much).
Although I do agree that recreationally isn't the best way to do your drugs, some people may even benefit from just the recreational and social factor of it... (I know that being able to get into a conversation with someone I barely know would do me a lot of good just because of the confidence boost and experience...)
Although yes, "E" does contain a lot of other stuff, around here meth would be the most commonly used drug to cut meth, it's in small amounts but it's still there... I've known people who have gotten everything from meth to acid (or a drug similar to acid) and one report from a friend who suspected heroin to be in the pill (this was NOT confirmed other than by someone who had done heroin before and suggested that it might be in there, this would probably be rare at best, as I'm sure heroin would be expensive to press into pills...
Anyways, if you really want to do it and not just because everyone else is doing it but because a part of you feels that you need this experience for one reason or another then I'd say go for it, it'll just bother you if you don't...
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