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Disco Cat
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Free Cactus Ring
#5267004 - 02/05/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I'm making this post because Vertigo6911 encouraged me to after I said "there needs to be a free cactus ring" in another thread. So this is a thread to find out who's in favor or not, and what people's thoughts are on the subject. I am not saying that I can work as homebase for any such organisation, this is at the moment data collecting. I also think this thread should be made known in other Shroomery forums, and elsewhere, as the visitors to the Ethnobotanical Garden forum make up a smaller number than those who would have an opinion on the matter. I'll leave the spreading of the idea to you, just mention this thread in a relevant post or something.
As an example on what a Free [X] Ring is, this is the Mission Statement as written on the Free Spore Prints website, http://www.freesporeprints.org/htm/fsp.htm
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FSP (Free Spore Prints) is a non-profit organization that was born in 2005 thanks to FSRE's (Free Spore Ring Europe) support. FSP's main goal is to share as many spore prints of edible mushrooms as possible worldwide. FSP doesn't earn anything by doing this, as all the money we receive is used to pay for postage fees and maintainence of the website. The only thing that we urge from you is that you enjoy mycology with your prints that the FSP will help to provide.
We?re against the ideal of HAVING, and we support the ideal of SHARING.
# Who are we?
FSP was born with the sole purpose of facilitating the sharing process of edible mushroom prints between mycology lovers. We?re an organization that collects and shares donations at a very minimal charge--that is, you only pay the shipping cost for us to mail to you. We are a non-profit organization, which can only survive by your donations. Without them, the FSP will be forced to "close its doors".
# Why share?
When a new strain catches your interest, you have two choises: You could pay an enormous price for something which in reality should cost hardly anything... or, you could try someone like us who will give it to you for free (add postage costs), and then make your own prints to give back to us. Everyone benefits! The FSP only asks that you please share to spread the wealth and keep our project going.
Edited by Disco Cat (02/05/06 08:07 PM)
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5267140 - 02/05/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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free seeds or whole cacti? shipping woudl be a big issue aswell as cacti take long to grow and generally are more valuable then a spore print which anyone can make 30 or 40 of for almost nothing.
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Disco Cat
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: the man]
#5267196 - 02/05/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, they would cost more to ship. But the receiver always pays the shipping, and only the shipping, just as with the free spore ring.
It would be for seeds and cuttings. Why not do both? Availability depends on what people donate. With cuttings, I can see an issue if one person wants to take too many. So to counter that a limit can be placed on how much one person can take - depending on what the availability is.
Also, this ring would be to share all kinds of rare cacti, not just the ethno's. Another positive side to a FCR would be that it would result in many more people growing these plants.
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Disco Cat
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5267593 - 02/05/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What if the cactus ring were to also distribute other rare ethno seeds as secondary?
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5267624 - 02/05/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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if something as broad as 'ethnobotanical seed' cannot succeed on this site I see little hope for something like this.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: faslimy]
#5267749 - 02/05/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what makes u think the thread is not succeeding? its kinda slow now, but what do u expect in winter...
anyways, maybe this would work better as an auction type thing...
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Disco Cat
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As an auction items would end up selling for normal prices, plus it looks like most people interested would give to the ring. I don't see why a ring wouldn't work.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5268550 - 02/06/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like the idea of a cactus ring. It would be worth a try, Ive realy been getting into growing rare and sacred cacti (and other rare and sacred plants) I think it would be a nice easy way to have access to trade and try growing a new species, spread them out more (then maybe they wont be so rare) and I would be willing to help out what i can w/maintenance on part of the site or what ever you may need.
i also agree it would be kinda cool to have a side section or something for some other ethnos.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5269198 - 02/06/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't see how this would work. Free spore ring yes, free MJ seeds possibly, but free cactus?
So you get your seeds, grow them for a decade and then donate seeds back to the ring? Won't work.
You could start sending cuttings, but then you'll have a massive problem with shipping and storage. Someone has to have a greenhouse to store the cacti, and time to water them and check for pests, you don't want spider mites spreading through your entire inventory. Shipping will have to be in boxes, which makes it more expensive and less discreet than simple envelopes that sporerings or even seedbanks use.
It will take a genius to overcome all these obstacles.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: koppie]
#5269218 - 02/06/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you interested in a free cactus ring?
Yes Would you use a free cactus ring?
I don't know. Would you contribute to a free cactus ring? You may choose only one
Possibly Could you help with the maintenance?
By donating, possibly.
I am definetely going to contribute to the spore ring. Thanks for the link.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: barto]
#5269256 - 02/06/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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can someone recommend an easy psilocybin or psilocin grower from that available list?
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Disco Cat
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: koppie]
#5269950 - 02/06/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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koppie said: I don't see how this would work. Free spore ring yes, free MJ seeds possibly, but free cactus?
So you get your seeds, grow them for a decade and then donate seeds back to the ring? Won't work.
You could start sending cuttings, but then you'll have a massive problem with shipping and storage. Someone has to have a greenhouse to store the cacti, and time to water them and check for pests, you don't want spider mites spreading through your entire inventory. Shipping will have to be in boxes, which makes it more expensive and less discreet than simple envelopes that sporerings or even seedbanks use.
It will take a genius to overcome all these obstacles.
Seeds are cheap. I would guess that enough people will have seeds from different cactus/plant varieties which they don't have use for. Take a look at ebay.
On the issue of cuttings, it would work easy to have donators put their name down on a list with what they're willing to share, then when someone wishes to obtain a listed cutting they would have it sent straight from the donator, no greenhouse storages. Paypal would work best for sending the shipping fees.
"Hello all, thought I would share some info I received while cruising around in snail-mail. Although ...of the jungle offers the trichocereus seeds (priced at 100 seeds for $5) you may consider writing to :
New Mexico Cactus Research P.O. Box 787 Belen, New Mexico 87002
I recently received their catalog and they have quite a difference in price (regretably I had just sent my order into ...otj). For 100 seeds the price is a whopping .90 while for 1000 seeds the price is $6. I haven't as of yet ordered anything from this company and do not know how good they are (although the catalog did not take too long to arrive). If anyone out there has any info on the service they provide I will enjoy hearing from you as I intend on ordering a few things from them. If I don't hear form anyone I will let you all know later what kind of experience I had with them."
Nobody told you that I'm a genious?
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5270020 - 02/06/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could turn out to be a great thing here. Especially for those who don't have access to seeds or cuttings.
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Disco Cat
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That's a good point, in Canada it is pretty darn hard to find a vendor or ebay seller who will ship up here.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5274279 - 02/07/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The number of people who are interested looks good for a poll with limited viewing. What this all will all depend on is whether or not all the required components for a ring can all be tackled.
As best as I know this is what is needed: A website to diplay cactus/ethno seed ring information and availability, and list cutting donars. - AFAIK if someone wanted to add this to their existing site that could work. Extra traffic may be a bonus, depending on what the person's site is. Hosting a ring on its own site comes with fees. Any ideas concerning that?
Someone to design the website Lots of cool logos and important looking links!!! j/k  Someone does have to do the design tho, someone passionate is best.
Someone's home to be the seedbank Anyone who's willing should make themselves known, along with any relevent information - like if these plants are a major hobby then that's probably a good reason for you to be homebase, having a PO box is a plus. Then a vote to determine after names are collected.
Theories of how this ring should operate If different than what I've already suggested, make your ideas known now.
If these things come together then we'll probably have ourselves a Cactus/rare ethno seed bank.
Any other necessary steps I haven't listed, please list yourself, thanks. 
P.S. - The shroomery needs a cactus icon
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5274400 - 02/07/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Disco Cat
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Why am I not finding those? I checked "More Smileys."
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5281972 - 02/09/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Disco Cat said: A website to diplay cactus/ethno seed ring information and availability, and list cutting donars. - AFAIK if someone wanted to add this to their existing site that could work. Extra traffic may be a bonus, depending on what the person's site is. Hosting a ring on its own site comes with fees. Any ideas concerning that?
Someone to design the website Lots of cool logos and important looking links!!! j/k  Someone does have to do the design tho, someone passionate is best.
Someone's home to be the seedbank Anyone who's willing should make themselves known, along with any relevent information - like if these plants are a major hobby then that's probably a good reason for you to be homebase, having a PO box is a plus. Then a vote to determine after names are collected.
Theories of how this ring should operate If different than what I've already suggested, make your ideas known now.
If these things come together then we'll probably have ourselves a Cactus/rare ethno seed bank.
Any other necessary steps I haven't listed, please list yourself, thanks. 
Well I'll list my name then as someone who's willing to host the seedbank. I might be able to host the website too. Anyone else?
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5282683 - 02/09/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Disco Cat
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: llamabox]
#5286487 - 02/10/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Currently the only person willing to house the seedbank is llamabox, and I am willing within Canada. Both storehouses could ship to either country, guaranteeing that you can get what you want. The idea was that it might be cheaper and quicker to ship to you from the location within your country. It also might be the case that some seeds are not legal in one country but are in another.
llamabox also says he has a greenhouse in which in he can store cuttings if anyone wants to get them off their hands and donate them. Otherwise an "available donars" list showing what's offered is still the main idea so that they can ship directly to you, while you pay the shipping, to keep the costs at minimum.
llamabox had the idea of initially accepting small donations for the purpose of buying ethno seed stock. If you want to give a few bucks for that purpose that's your call. If that is done we will list who gave what and what the money was spent on.
This idea is moving ahead, tho there hasn't been much feedback the past several days. It would be good to hear from you guys, just for encouragement 
If anybody else is still interested in being home to a seedbank, either in Canada or the US, post in this thread or pm me. We want to know they'd be stored in the best place possible. I also have a 10 mb website that comes with my internet connection, that should be enough to display all the information into the following sections: In Stock, Wish List, Current Donar Listings, Supporters, Site Info, Growth Stories and Pics.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5286952 - 02/10/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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then you got to convince people to send you cacti. if you had a bunch you where willing to give away first of all it might work. but mostly punk kids lookign for somthing free. very very hard. admirable thought
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: the man]
#5287045 - 02/10/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here, I have been following this thread for a while. What needs to be done is, you have to make a $20 donation to receive the cutting. When you donate a cutting you will get your money back. Boom, people looking for freebies are screwed. Plus you can put the money in a 4% savings acct and make interest to cover costs like the website.
Edit, and you could ask for real donations to keep the project running and to increase stock right before the refund. Could work very well.
Edited by Jaeger (02/10/06 07:33 PM)
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eve69
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Jaeger]
#5288132 - 02/11/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the free cacti ring should be for those with a bit of flow and the goodwill to share and not for leeches. That said, there's no simple way of judging how that could be enforced, except insofar as a sort of BYOB, maybe a BYOC, if you will. For instance, I have a cacti, and I give one, I get a credit. Maybe after five credits I get a pass called Kudos. At first, maybe the credits or kudos get their choice cacti from the pool. New comers do best to divy up some goods for credits then they get their choice at a first come first serve based on availability of strains. Furthermore there can be supporters who merely help out for no reason, which would be myself more than likely. A little, but a little's better than nothing. For instance, I have a small Peruvian that's four years old but doesn't like me, so I'll give it to someone, including the stamp just because I believe in good karma, and if one of my allies is happier elsewhere then it's all in God's good graces. Now that I think about it I have some small Carton Grandes I could add as well. So it coould be fun. Why not. Let me know by PM if it takes off please.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: eve69]
#5288886 - 02/11/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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free seeds wouldn't be a huge issue... trying to track someone sending seeds in the mail is pretty damn hard. However, sending plants / cactus in the mail is a pain in the ass.
All that entitles into you sending a plant of some sort in the mail is not an easy task.
Most rare ethnos are climate aclimated... and would most likely die in transport, or die from someone who knows extreamly little about that plant... Or just what they have "read" off the net.
while cactus sending isn't that hard... you would be far better to start a free ethno seed ring. it would last longer, and be easier to maintain.
there are only 3 or 4 real cactus that anyone would want as a live cactus... and how long do you think it would take for the govt. to catch on and but the smack down on that.
Grow what you love, and go about it the ways you need to go get it, grow it, and NOT abuse it.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: kolizion]
#5288903 - 02/11/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont know why i waste my time posting on this. but there is also the nature of living plants as they do die or carry parasites. and to many variables in teh size age ect
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: kolizion]
#5288905 - 02/11/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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zee_werp
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So would the goal of it to be to hasten the illegalisation of san pedro? That sounds like one possibility of something like this.
I don't think a FCR would work. Hate to be a doubter but it just seems so overly complex when people can easily either buy a cactus from their local department / garden store, or arrange private trades with friends or forum members, or buy from one of the numerous online suppliers.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: zee_werp]
#5290366 - 02/11/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Overly complex? This thing is simple to me. Cactus cuttings are secondary, and it's illogical to think a cactus ring is going to push them into legal scrutiny. That's gonna happen from all the sites which sell them as alkaloid rich wonder plant popular for psychedelic ceremonies. You should appreciate this approach a little more.
The ring is firstly a seed exchange. To those who think it's too much of a hassle to pull off, you're not the ones pulling it off anyway, so no problem. The cutting's aren't to be sold for drug purposes but growing. How to ensure that people are getting them for quick fixes, it's not known yet, maybe by giving cuttings that are too small for any decent dose, maybe by only giving them to reputable people... First the ring will take off and we'll see how things go. Claiming failure before anything's even attempted is not an impressive attitude, in any case.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5290429 - 02/11/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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and teh turn aroudn time from seeds to a seeding cacti can be many years. not a month as with spores
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: the man]
#5290731 - 02/12/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I admit some good ideas have been raised here and it is an awesome idea in theory. From reading the posts I had the impression that it was going to be a cactus plant / cutting ring rather than a cactus seed ring.
Sure, if there are people out there with loads of spare cactus seed lying around then there's no reason to not give it a shot.
I'm still not too sure about how it would logistically work though, after 6 years of growing cacti I haven't yet harvested any seed of note, despite multiple attempts at aritficial pollination. But there are others out there who are probably more active in their propagations than I am who may have spare seeds or cuttings to use for it.
But yes some great ideas raised here, eve69 made some standout points as did many others.
Sorry for being initially pessimistic, I too would really love to see this plan come to fruition, despite the fact that I wouldn't be able to use it...damn tight NZ biosecurity laws!!
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: zee_werp]
#5293652 - 02/13/06 02:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Glad to have you hoping the best for this zee_werp 
Everybody, I have everything organzied and am prepared to put it all into effect. I'm waiting for a pm reply from llamabox, and then, if everything's good, I can start a thread announcing the commencement of the cactus/ethno ring.
Jaeger and eve69, thanks for both your ideas on the cuttings  I think eve69's idea will work the best, however cactus cutting credit should also be given to those who donate particularly special seeds, or someone who has a good reputation with trusted growers, since not every aspiring grower already has a cactus to donate a cutting for the sake of receiving another cutting.
All details will be in the C/E ring commencement thread once it's made.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5296070 - 02/13/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pm'd Any question regarding US shipping may be made to my PM for now. Any ideas or comments on ethno seeds in the US please PM..
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: llamabox]
#5296762 - 02/13/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I absolutely LOVE this idea, it is so damned....practical. I just planted a cutting of what I am almost sure is a trich that I took off of my neighbor(yes, he said it was okay. I'm not an ass.). If it isn't hallucinogenic....meh, still an amazing cactus. But yea, I have been wanting to start growing cacti, and this sounds like a great way to start. Would I be able to get some seeds to propagate if I were to make a cash donation, seeing as how I have absolutely no seeds to offer(sorry!)? But yea, brilliant idfdea, and I am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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Donations are great, but not needed to recieve seeds. All you will need to do is pay for the stamp. Once things get finalized with the web site we will post a new thread.
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I'm very interested in starting to grow cacti, I would love to graft some peyote onto some pereskiopsis, love the idea and the look.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5296832 - 02/13/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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NICE! But yea, if I take something from this without giving back, I just feel a little freeloady. Because I know, fees to host site, plus I would like you guys to have some cash to possibly get some seeds that you are harder to find, so you can send those, too. I don't know, I just want to support this, it is so damned positive.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5296853 - 02/13/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it was seeds only, (Legal of course), I would be willing to add the ring to the FSRC site and services. It wouldn't be that difficult for me, cause everything is already in place. As far as cash donations to buy stock... it will cause problems. Donators would be better off buying the seed and donating it themselves.
It sounds interesting, but would probably take a while to catch on.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Shdwstr]
#5296864 - 02/13/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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who knows, could kick off hard and then die down, could stay strong, could work well for a long time. hard to tell.
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ClammyJoe
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Hell, I think a pereskiopsis with some peyote would be an awesome present for my friends and relatives for christmas and their birthday, and I would love to send them to other folks who want to start their own cactus growing.
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whatever123
Whatever I did, I'm sorry


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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5296891 - 02/13/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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peyote is such a cute cactus...am I the only one who thinks this? Every time I hear people mention peyote, they talk about mescaline and stuff, but I think it is just as cute as a button(sorry...had to say it)! But yea, It is an awesome looking little dude. Sorry for derailing the topic....just ignore this.
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ClammyJoe
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Quote:
whatever123 said: peyote is such a cute cactus...am I the only one who thinks this? Every time I hear people mention peyote, they talk about mescaline and stuff, but I think it is just as cute as a button(sorry...had to say it)! But yea, It is an awesome looking little dude. Sorry for derailing the topic....just ignore this.
Not to further derail, but yeah, its probably one the nicest looking cacti, and it has a background that makes it not only aesthetically pleasing, but also has a huge interesting/coolness factor.
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Disco Cat
iS A PoiNdexteR

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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Shdwstr]
#5300472 - 02/14/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Things are going smoothly, I have a PO Box in Canada and llamabox will have his tomorrow. llamabox is also discussing with someone in the UK and perhaps there will be a storehouse there too.
If people order seeds themselves they can do so to one of the Ethno Ring addressed. Donations will still be helpful to cover costs of PO box's, and if we get our own, a domain too (Shdwstr, I believe llamabox is talking to you about hosting on FSRC). Again, if you want to throw a few buck our way that's entirely your call. You can send it by mail, and I'm considering setting up a paypal account to later have on the site. We also may have t-shirts and other logo-oriented objects for sale on the site in the future, we'll see if we can come up with some cool ideas.
I hope to have a test page up for the site tonight, but the complete site will take a few more days. In the meantime, here's a banner I made: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1539/banner3hs.gif and also boarder I did for the site: http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3112/leafborder1md.gif
You can already send seeds or donations to the Canadian storehouse, which I'm housing:
Ethno Ring PO box 52527 1136-2929 Barnet Hwy Coquitlam, BC V3B 7J4 Canada
I'll make the official commencement post when I have llamabox's PO address tomorrow.
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Jaeger
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5300606 - 02/14/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good work guys! I have a small ammt of ethno seeds lying around. I will send some in when it gets rolling! Thanks for setting this up, it should be cool!
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Disco Cat
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Jaeger]
#5300837 - 02/14/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool, Jaeger 
I made a demo picture for a site concept: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8444/demopage8ty.jpg
with java for page transitions and other stuff it should be pretty sweet!
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whatever123
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Disco Cat]
#5301365 - 02/14/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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....i fucking love you guys, so much.
Yea, it would be awesome to have that U.S. storehouse adress set up soon, so I can snag some seeds! DEFINATELY going to donate, and it would be cool to have some merchandise and all, but it would probably be best to spend any "extra" money on hosting the site or whatever expenses arise...I still can't believe this! You guys are awesome!
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Theido
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Great work!! Love the idea! Ill definately also send in some seeds when the ring starts living!
Theido
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zee_werp
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: Theido]
#5302049 - 02/15/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well this is just fantastic! Really great to see the determination and commitment shining through. I hope that this turns out to be sustainable.
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llamabox
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: zee_werp]
#5302898 - 02/15/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can send seeds or donations to the Canadian or U.S.A storehouse:
Ethno Ring PO box 52527 1136-2929 Barnet Hwy Coquitlam, BC V3B 7J4 Canada
Ethno Ring PO Box 1303 Richmond, Indiana 47375 USA
Official commencement post to follow. Site should be ready in a few days with list of donators and seeds currently available.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: llamabox]
#5469496 - 04/01/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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O.K, I'm not sure how this works, but I've had 3 pretty good sized T. Pachanoi, two of which I just harvested about three months ago, thus several young cuttings (top and bottoms), if you guy's need a couple can someone PM me, cuz I'm confuzed on how this thread works.
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Re: Free Cactus Ring [Re: ngnyus]
#5470187 - 04/02/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here is a brief rundown of how this has worked so far. Each cutting contribution you make gives you one cutting credit. This credit may be used to receive a cutting of your choice whenever you see one on the site you want. Once you have contributed 3 times you will no longer be bound by the credit rule, and you can get cuttings whenever you want.
If you have cuttings ready to go, you can send them to me here at the US storehouse. Otherwise the system will work by you notifying us that you have cuttings for donation, then they will be listed as available on the website with your email (or if you do not want it to be shown they can contact one of the storehouses), and when someone wants one they will send the shipping money directly to you, and you will send the plant directly to them. Once they receive the cutting you will be given a credit.
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