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no pinning?
    #5266736 - 02/05/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Its been about ten days since I've put my case into the terrarium for fruiting conditions. I cold shocked the case for a day before doing this to make sure the temperature dependent hormones were triggered and I've been fanning the casing at least four times a day. Humidity is around 98%. The one thing I'm worried about is light. I have it in a container with a red top but transparent sides. Light can get through the sides but its not like last time when I had a transparent top for my terrarium. IS there anything I can do at this point to kick it into pinning? My case is starting to overlay =P It looks like I may have some hyphael knotting but i dunno for sure.


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Re: no pinning? [Re: kmIL]
    #5268402 - 02/06/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

im having the exact same thing happen. I knocked up about 30 cakes, incubated all of them in about 12 days or so (no contams), cased them with delight...incubated for 3 days, patched, incubated til it looked great...and put in my martha...was all excited to all of my good luck for my first grow...and now it looks like i have fricken overlay...argh...i scratched up one of the 3 casings to see if it helps...but ill figure out what was wrong sooner or later...im jus gonna start doing diff things here and there til somptin works out.


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Re: no pinning? [Re: unseenat17]
    #5268415 - 02/06/06 02:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

There's a lot of factors which contribute to pin formation. One thing, kmIL, is your RH is way too high. 98% is great for cakes, but casings only require 80-85%. Drop your RH. Cold shocking is beneficial to other species, but since Ps. Cubs are sub-tropical, cold shocking can actually delay pin formation. Your FC should be receiving substantial light, even if the lid is opaque, as long as it's in indirect sunlight for at least 12 hours. Keep your temps around 73 +/- 3 deg F. Give it a couple more days. If it's starting to knot up, pins are soon to follow. :goodluck:


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Re: no pinning? [Re: Premedman1]
    #5268437 - 02/06/06 03:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Your RH is way off my friend! Like mentioned ..that needs to be dropped fast! The sooner you get this done the better.
Your transparent sides should be adiquate enough to provide the light needed. However your shrooms might grow in all type of directions, because your light is not being directed from the top. No big deal.
Something else that might help out alittle, is to drop your temp. maybe 2-3f, to further help with your RH problem.
This shot.. (sorry for the blur..only one I had on hand), shows afew small pins, and a butt load of hypha knots. Might be kinda hard to make out. In either case, notice the mycelium growing on top. This isn't overlay. This casing was recovard the night before!
This next shot is again within 24hr. of the last.

Same casing.

Now before I even had hypha knots, it took afew days. By this time the mycelium had come through the top surface a tad. Just recover and add light, along with FAE, and wait till knots start to appear.
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Re: no pinning? [Re: kiss]
    #5268503 - 02/06/06 04:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I thought that the humidity should be as high as possible for pin formation? I have tried to leave a little space open on my lid so that hte humidity will decrease. I have a monitor so I will know if this workis. DOes anybody know any ways to lower the humidity of a simple terrarium of a rubbermaid with cellophane cover? Just leave it 10% open?


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Re: no pinning? [Re: kmIL]
    #5268521 - 02/06/06 04:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Casing don't require as a high RH levels as cakes do. Cake's more or less are exposed..(naked..if you will :smirk: ).
Casing on the other hand have their own micro-climate, do to the casing mix itself. Given the proper moisture content that is.
Opening up your FC, will help, but If your RH is as high as you say then i'd grab some paper towells and start wiping down the inside of your FC. Make all the exposed plastic dry as a bone!
Then go over it agian with a moistend paper towell with alcohol.
After that, be up with your FAE. All should be well.


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