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InvisibleMOTH
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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: Cherk]
    #5266942 - 02/05/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have unusual sex fetishes that cause me mucho obsession and grief (i.e. cannot get aroused unless the fetishes are involved).

I'd like to get rid of them, so if I never had sex again, I think I could cope. I doubt hubby could though.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5266945 - 02/05/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

describe said fetishes.


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InvisibleMOTH
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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: omglolwtf]
    #5266952 - 02/05/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would, except this thread isn't about fetishes.  And mine should be kept private, at any rate.  :sun:


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5266958 - 02/05/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

PM me if you want to share. I'm a freak myself...


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: omglolwtf]
    #5266997 - 02/05/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow Ellemy. If you really beleive that you aren't anything, then you should accept that you're an animal and realize that you were born a certain way. Do you ever see a rabbit saying 'hey I don't like my fluffy tail time to bite it off'. It makes 0 sense. You really can't justify it.

Just be who you are.

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EllemyshShade said:
I am having a hard time understanding what's so wrong with wanting my mind and body to match, though.



They already do. Your gender is just a detail. It's not what you are.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5267031 - 02/05/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You can get rid of the attachment you have for these fetishes. The path is about a return of innocence. This is the most difficult, slow moving process of the path in my limited experience.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5267168 - 02/05/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Throwing the baby out with the bathwater...?


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5267419 - 02/05/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You are just asking for some VERY disturbing fetishes if you do that.
Some guys have fetishes for people who have had that procedure.
What you are looking for is removal of the organs that cause the desire (forget what the word is for that procedure). Before you even consider these procedures I would try one of those chemical impotence drugs. Never heard a girl ever consider this before. I understand your problem I have seen THAT feeling more then a few times. Removing the parts that make you a woman is not going to help you feel better. Have you tried just totally ignoring your fetishes? With time and willpower they may fade. It is just an impulse, it does not control you. I know that you feel that these fetishes dehumanize you. I think that they are caused by something in your past. You are looking to give up sexual pleasure why not try giving up sex? It is not sex that is the problem, it is how you feel about sex. Perhaps you have not considered the impact that that is going to have on your emotions. It will be like going through menopause and I don't hear too many women praising the experience. The way you act and the way you think will change drastically. It might be very, very unpleasant. Is it that you do not think yourself human that you want to mark yourself this way?


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5267630 - 02/05/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Dont be uncomfortable in your own skin. Whats the logic in changing yourself to be yourself?


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5268075 - 02/05/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I hate to be so scathing, but between the way you and everyone else of your gender are born, and the idea you've spontaneously come up with in your head, which has more credibility as the right way to go?

And really, what is the benefit of removing your breasts? What good can come of that, honestly?

The best thing that might happen is that men wouldn't ogle you, but it would be because they find you much less attractive.

What good can come of this? Honestly, I can think of nothing useful... nothing at all :shrug:

Mammaries have their rightful place in nature, and I was under the impression that you respected nature. Why do something so drastic because you've assumed that nature was wrong and that you, a mere human, were right?


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: Konnrade]
    #5268161 - 02/06/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

But I am part of nature.  I guess that means I can never be wrong.  :cool:

My husband and I had a talk about this topic tonight.  I brought it up again, and he got upset, but not about what I expected.  He said, "Do you have any idea how much that would cost?!" and expressed that there are better things we as a couple could spend our money on.  I asked if he would divorce me if I got rid of my breasts and he said no, just as he wouldn't if I lost both my arms.  So that was reassuring. 

As for what useful thing could come out of this...I wouldn't have breasts, for one. (or two, depending) I wouldn't feel as shameful of my body.  I wouldn't feel weird looking at myself naked in the mirror.  And other reasons which are probably too senseless to warrant an explanation. 

I just don't like them.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5268191 - 02/06/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

MY GOD WOMAN!!!! Are you out of your mind!? your body is just a vessel, the image you should change is yourself, your soul.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5268355 - 02/06/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps this is just a personal crisis that you need to learn to cope with?

Sure, it seems like the solution is to cut the breasts off (well, to you it does), but I bet the more reasonable solution is to learn to appreciate them as a part of your body. I'm not always too fond of my pinky toes, they tend to get in the way sometimes, but I don't think I would want them removed. In all honesty that would just show that I was too lazy/foolish/stubborn/etc to learn to appreciate them, as might be the case with your boobs.

And your husband is right, surgery to have your breasts removed would cost a very large amount of money, and it would be an utter frivolatry to be spending it on. Unless you're very blessed with a significant income you'll be squandering that money that could probably be far more useful to both of you if you spent it elsewhere.

Significant surgeries should not just be suddenly decided upon, especially if it's not a surgery for something necessary. Not only are they expensive but they require you to spend time preparing for them and recovering from them, they weaken your body as it heals, and... they're expensive!  :frown:

I can't stand to think that you might do this and then somewhere down the road realize it was a mistake. Because by then you can't get your boobs back, and you certainly couldn't get a refund.

If I may ask, how are your retirement savings? Think: would you be better off if, rather than giving that money to surgeons, you instead saved that money for your future... or for something practical?

From the sounds of things what you propose would be similar to me going out and buying a $30,000 DeLorean while I was still in college. Sure, on the surface I know that I would enjoy having done it very much, and would feel great satisfaction from it but down the road I'd wind up suffering greatly as a result and would think it was a mistake.

I mean no offense in any of the above statements, by the way... I'm just concerned  :crazy:


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: Konnrade]
    #5268386 - 02/06/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I agree 100% with Konnrade.

Ellemy, this is a bad idea. You know I respect you, but I highly suggest not doing this.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: lukeboots]
    #5268446 - 02/06/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you deserve to feel comfortable in your own skin, so the real question is if this  is something you've truly longed for, rather than an impulsive flight of fancy.  body modifications have existed in all cultures and all periods of time with ranged reactions from taboo ostricism to tribal soliditary, i could totally see removing your breasts as a very personal affirmation/rebirth in fully coming into yourself and may very well be a part of a greater cosmic lineage/tradition - i mean, it may be informative to study up on what kind of anthropological significance it holds.
even when getting a tattoo, it's wise to be ready to study up on the tattoo artist and be ready to shell out real $$$ for the service, if you were sincere about what you want and not impulsive about it, i'd really hope you found a respected surgeon w/ a well cataloged portfolio.  often in this world you get what you pay for.... i felt that was worth mentioning....
as for sexuality, your fetishes are intimately yours and deserve to be fully expressed.  masking your true sexual profile and pretending to be normal just isn't worth it. contrary to popular opinion, this world sexuality is very, very diverse and though it may not seem like it there's undoubtably hiding in the woodworks a sizable audience/and or community that would find you and your whole package, fetishes and breasts-or-not and all, sexually appetizing.  i know you're married, so that creates its own karma and duty and what not.  then again, there's a whole world of marital arrangements that go beyond traditional ideas of monogamous relationships.  everybody has to find out what works for them.  it requires a lot of honesty and open communication with yourself and your partner.

always remember, there's a whole world of people out there who will love and support you for who you want to be

including me :smile:

blessings,

CJ


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5268453 - 02/06/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

my last post was intended to be directed to you, Ellemysh.  :smile:


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #5268498 - 02/06/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I tend to agree with cosmicjoke on this one. This is your life, your body and ultimately your decision. You need to be comfortable in your own skin. Most of the other posters here tend to be "straight" men, that just can't fathom a woman cutting off her breasts. Fuck what she is feeling. Who are you to judge what this woman is to do?


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: thepoetryman]
    #5268512 - 02/06/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hey buddy boy, welcome to the boards. though i've met a handful of shroomerites, you'd be the first person i've ever turned onto the boards. most people i've directed to this neck of the woods think i'm f'n nuts, lol. this will be interesting.

big bear hugz

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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #5268576 - 02/06/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm, this kind of goes against all of my philosophies. I feel that people need to accept that they are in a society. You should not necessarily confrom, but make yourself of some use to your species. We have the unique abilities as humans to be 'futants'. Meaning we can consciously dedicate our lives to furthering our own evolution. We have sexes for a reason and although much of society is ridiculous about the idea of sex, there are enough intelligent minds out there that are not, and they are worth living normally for.

Another consideration might be to just get a breast reduction. If you don't like the idea of people looking at your breasts as being something special, make them less appealing. Don't get rid of them. Being considered a freak is much worse than being considered female (I, know, barely, but still). To deny your sex is somewhat a slap in the face to mother nature, and a complete disregard of society.

Your other options are to conform your personality to your true self. Dont act feminine or male, just act what you are. Be intelligent and be prominent.
There are plenty of otherways to lose the biases due to your sex, and none of them involve changing your appearance.

Just my two cents. Ive never heard of a woman wanting to be transgender...so, I apologize if I'm coming off as narrow-minded.


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Re: Removing my breasts [Re: MOTH]
    #5268578 - 02/06/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do you have really big boobs?

They do have breast reduction surgery that I hear is pretty routine and safe.


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