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MikeBearPig
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#20517086 - 09/03/14 11:18 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just prepped my first 12 WBS Jars tonite using this TEK! I will post back with my results.
I already did it with some 4oz wide-mouth jars just to get the soaking down, and those are almost at 20% colonization! Thank you for the wonderful time saving tek!
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#20550983 - 09/10/14 10:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any specific brand of wbs? Im very new to this but plan on trying this tek very soon
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: Goldenrye]
#20551127 - 09/10/14 11:10 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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some nice cheap stuff, things like peanut free or cracked corn free are a bonus but they dont' hurt anything
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: cronicr]
#20586209 - 09/18/14 10:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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been testing some additions to this tek. they work. but i love the simplicity of this method. its simple, quick easy and convenient when life gets in the way.
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: eatyualive]
#20586285 - 09/18/14 10:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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FilthyShroomz
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20648119 - 10/02/14 10:40 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is gypsum necessary for wbs soak? Can you use straight wbs?
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FilthyShroomz said: Is gypsum necessary for wbs soak?
No.
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FilthyShroomz said: Can you use straight wbs?
Yes.
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: PussyFart]
#20648164 - 10/02/14 10:58 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is simmering or boiling necessary? I see that some folks here only soak and load. 
Thanks for the answer pussyfart!
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I don't simmer or boil my WBS.....it all depends on the grains really.....
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: PussyFart]
#20648209 - 10/02/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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which tek do you use
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I soak my WBS for 24 hours in hot tap water, then strain for 30 minutes, and load my jars while the grains are still a bit moist on the outside....
When they come out of the PC I shake them a few times as they cool, and the next day they bounce around the jar like a bunch of BBs.
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: PussyFart]
#20649804 - 10/02/14 05:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you use foo's you don't simmer or boil anything. you boil the water initially then take it off the heat. so its like a hot water bath. you can simmer grain but there is a fine line between overcooking it and making it perfect. this method for me is bulletproof and i have 100% success using it. the only time i have issues is user error. like not catching the water right when it begins to boil. that can overcook it. also, stitballjedi has been using this method with rye berry successfully and another fellow tried it with rye grass seed. he used only a 10 minute soak, and then pced and it worked perfectly for him. i do boil corn grain. but thats a whole other beast. its alot of work for me to prep corn grain. i like the simplicity of this method and actually prefer the speed. the reason its so great is that its on your time. and its very convenient if you have long days and work tons.
you can come home late and still have your grain ready before you go to bed. foo told me another method which involves doing it twice to blow up the grain a little more. i did it with success and i have a grow that used it. but to me, it adds a whole hour tot he prep time and made my grains expanded but more exploded. ill stick with the simple method because for me time is of the essence. nothing wrong with soaking grain. i used to soak, i used to steep. but for ease this method is proven and works extremely well. I don't feel like i am a "SLAVE TO THE GRAIN" any longer lol.
i actually add a dash of lime to my boiled water soak because it helps get the gunk off the grain. but isn't necessary at all. i feel it does help though. i would assume gypsum would do something similar. although ive never tried.
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: FooMan]
#20656726 - 10/04/14 09:22 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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What happens if you pressure cook slightly wet wbs?
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pawnzy
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FilthyShroomz said: What happens if you pressure cook slightly wet wbs?
What happens if you water a lake?
lol jk but your wbs should be properly moist before you pc it, you shouldnt load your jars if the wbs moisture content is still off
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: pawnzy]
#20656793 - 10/04/14 09:40 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its moist but I feel like its too moist .. fml
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: pawnzy]
#20657235 - 10/04/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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pawnzy said:
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FilthyShroomz said: What happens if you pressure cook slightly wet wbs?
What happens if you water a lake?
lol jk but your wbs should be properly moist before you pc it, you shouldnt load your jars if the wbs moisture content is still off
it may be a little wet. but shake it when its cool enough to do so to distribute the moisture.
but you can strain it 30 minutes or even an hour. an hour will make it slightly on the dry side. but it will work good.
i sometimes forget im straining it and let it strain an hour with to no detriment.
if there is too much water, after you pc it, the grain can get gooey and clump. shaking after the pc does help. but if your moisture content is incorrect you will usually know right after you pressure cook and allow the pc pressure to release. you may see clumps of grain about golf ball size. you also may see that you have mostly exploded grains. another indicator is on the glass of the jar after you have let the jars cool to room temps you may see gunk or gooey looking starches on the side of the glass. that isn't good.
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: eatyualive]
#20657316 - 10/04/14 12:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the wbs does end up being a little goey, is it ok still for mycelium to colonize on? What if its a little gooey on the glass jar but the zeeds still move around freely?
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: eatyualive]
#20657350 - 10/04/14 12:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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let it fully dry and see if the starches on the glass go away. if the grain is shaking freely thats good.
do you have a picture? you may see this right when the jars have been taken out of the pc. usually if you let them sit a few hours this will let you see how it looks a little better.
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: eatyualive]
#20657403 - 10/04/14 12:40 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're currently in the p.c. right now. Before I put them in the shit was just a bit starchy. I had to rinse this wbs batch I bought for an hour and half bc it had red and green and yellow fruity pebble looking things. I rinsed it till that crap dissolved but I'm guessin tjats what the goey stuff is from. As soon as I get it out the pc I will have a picture for you. But other than that do u think ill be alright even if its a bit starchy?
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And if I need to let it dry more after I get them out the pc, do I just take the jars out and put em out some whrre? Even if the grains are movin freely?
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