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Realize one thing and you will be happy
    #5264710 - 02/04/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

We are all one. Interaction is the place where this happiness is located. Stop looking for it, its right in front of you. Realize it doesn't matter about anything other then respect. Respect other people, respect yourself, respect everyone. Its in everybody else, live to help others, and you'll be happy because you'll always be able to do it. People ALWAYS need help, ALWAYS. Thats the idea behind it all. Its intelligent. It's whatever you want but its getting on the same page as people.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: DankAne]
    #5264714 - 02/04/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing is intelligent.

Everything is interesting.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: DankAne]
    #5264822 - 02/04/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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DankAne said:
We are all one. Interaction is the place where this happiness is located. Stop looking for it, its right in front of you. Realize it doesn't matter about anything other then respect. Respect other people, respect yourself, respect everyone. Its in everybody else, live to help others, and you'll be happy because you'll always be able to do it. People ALWAYS need help, ALWAYS. Thats the idea behind it all. Its intelligent. It's whatever you want but its getting on the same page as people.





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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: DankAne]
    #5266891 - 02/05/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: DankAne]
    #5267144 - 02/05/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbdown:

i give it the thumb down.... for vague esoteric and mystical drivel.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5268322 - 02/06/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

^^^
What?s esoteric about it? Seems like a pretty straightforward statement to me. Realize we are all one, help out your fellow man, and happiness can prevail.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: jazzcat]
    #5269408 - 02/06/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Elaborate on how the sum of humanity is equivalent to one.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5269942 - 02/06/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i disagree, ever so slightly


you need 2 things

1. We are all one, that is essential

and

2. Reality, heaven, hell, earth, thoughts, insanity, dreams, all of it, every single bit is a dream, its a product of our imagination's, now some are the product of an extremely cold and calculated imagination that is very logical

but it is all imagination, its all a dream, and yes it is essential to keep in mind that we are all one.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: jazzcat]
    #5269949 - 02/06/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Just like mushman is trying to say regarding the first post....

It is a cliche, a catch phrase, for sophomoric grasp of the scope of philosophy and spirituality.
im not arguing whether or not we are all one, but merely the supposedly profound emporers-new-clothes statement in which it was presented.
To me, it just seems like someone grasping to seem profound on the surface without really saying anything.... Kind of like the presidents state of the union addresses.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5270077 - 02/06/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Elaborate on how the sum of humanity is equivalent to one.



We are from the same source -- consciousness, or spirit -- multiplied out among many psyches and bodies. Picture a circle. The outer rim of the cirle represents the physical universe, with all our individual bodies. The center of the circle represents consciousness -- the same consciousness from which all our individualities realities spring. Now imagine a line from the center -- a radius. This represents the psyche. It is our identity as individuals. It touches two points: the center and the outer circle. These are, respectively, the higher and lower states of the psyche. The psyche is in its lower state when one identifies with their physical body. It is in its higher state when one recognizes their true identity as consciousness, represented by Christ. It is in this state that we understand that we are all one. We all share the same center, and are like different lines coming out from the center. In the higher state of the psyche, we understand our common center.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Silversoul]
    #5270119 - 02/06/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

How can we be individuals, yet all one?

consciousness is perception and awareness.... can you personally perceive existence as this oneness, or use this oneness to be omnipresent?

how can one define their individuality, which as you said earlier would be indulging in the physical, yet still function in the oneness?


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5270243 - 02/06/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Metaphysically, there is only one universe - which means that everything in reality is interconnected.

I can see how one such as yourself may be confused, if you are under the impression of "oneness" being a form of anthropomorphism, akin to collectivism. Yes, in reality, we are all individuals interacting with each other. But the fact remains that, objectively, there is no metaphysical line drawn between you and that, us and them, or "it" from "that".

You and I, are two different individuals. But show me where the metaphysical border begins and ends, between you and I. Simple, really.

The original poster wrote:

Respect other people, respect yourself, respect everyone.

Respect, respect, respect. Well, I'm a finite creature, and I ain't got an infinite tank of respect to be givin' out all day long. I'm gonna reserve my respect to those who earn it, not any and every person merely because they were born into existence.


Its in everybody else,

What, is in everybody else, exactly? Respect? To be honest, I've met my fair share of folks who wouldn't know respect if it bit 'em in the ass.


live to help others, and you'll be happy because you'll always be able to do it.

It may sound wonderful and peachy on paper or theory. But in reality, you will never be able to always help others. I live for myself, and wouldn't ask that anyone live for me. If I'm here to help you and you're here to help me, what good does that do for either of us? All you're doing is magnetizing yourself towards the Takers. I'm sure many of us have met the diametric of the Giver-type; the Takers. They're like bottomless buckets, they take, take and take. They're the leeches of society, of producers, traders and givers.
A much more mature approach, IMO, is to be a Trader. If you and I are both here, then we can trade values for values, and form a mutual, beneficial friendship. I can trade the value of productivity to you and you, in turn, can trade the value of profitability to me.
I see no reason why I should expend effort in giving values - which are difficult to achieve - to someone who has little to no honor and respect for such ethics.


People ALWAYS need help, ALWAYS.

I need help with my taxes, as well. People will always have needs and wants, nothing new there.


Thats the idea behind it all. Its intelligent. It's whatever you want but its getting on the same page as people.



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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5270312 - 02/06/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Paradigm said:
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MushmanTheManic said:
Elaborate on how the sum of humanity is equivalent to one.



We are from the same source -- consciousness, or spirit -- multiplied out among many psyches and bodies.  Picture a circle.  The outer rim of the cirle represents the physical universe, with all our individual bodies.  The center of the circle represents consciousness -- the same consciousness from which all our individualities realities spring.  Now imagine a line from the center -- a radius.  This represents the psyche.  It is our identity as individuals.  It touches two points: the center and the outer circle.  These are, respectively, the higher and lower states of the psyche.  The psyche is in its lower state when one identifies with their physical body.  It is in its higher state when one recognizes their true identity as consciousness, represented by Christ.  It is in this state that we understand that we are all one.  We all share the same center, and are like different lines coming out from the center.  In the higher state of the psyche, we understand our common center.





Paradigim, that is fucking brilliant, i can display this model physically while you display it in words (hand movements of the subconscious, its hard to describe and easy to show, perhaps one day)



because psylocyberian, its not nessecarily that we are all independent (i am not, i know that and when around people as aware as i am i see how they experience reality similarly and differently as i do)

but our physical bodies and our subconscious' perception of us in space time, time and thought realms in other words.

it makes sense in the orb'd picture, imagine it like this, the outside is heaven, the inside is hell, the middle is the point of unity, the outiside is the point of diversity, and the part of the sphere that you see, the imagined part, the dream part, is the part we actually experience, our daily lives and our perceptions of others

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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #5270355 - 02/06/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, but I dont see where that interconnectedness really matters.... imagine a ball of clay, which every particle is independantly conscious and aware of itself... what does it matter, or what conclusion can be made from one particle realizing that it is only part of a big ball of clay?

What happens when that particle in that ball of clay realizes one day that it is part of an artwork which has other media, a zoom outward infinitly?

I think the entire idea of "oneness" breaks down to the dull statement of "everything is everything".... sure you can say "universe" but what does that mean? are you aware of the infinite? it is impossible to grasp everything, as well as be tuned into its connectedness be it physical, or metaphysical.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Silversoul]
    #5271380 - 02/06/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Your explaination hardly seems to merit using the 'is of identity' like the original poster did. I can understand it figuratively, but in the way its stated, "We are all one", it doesn't make much sense. Unless, of course, you've given up the Atomic theory and believe in Monism...


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #5271392 - 02/06/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

But show me where the metaphysical border begins and ends, between you and I

See: epidermis


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: DankAne]
    #5271435 - 02/06/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Interaction is the place where this happiness is located. Stop looking for it, its right in front of you. Realize it doesn't matter about anything other then respect. Respect other people, respect yourself, respect everyone. Its in everybody else, live to help others, and you'll be happy because you'll always be able to do it. People ALWAYS need help, ALWAYS. Thats the idea behind it all. Its intelligent. It's whatever you want but its getting on the same page as people.




Why do we need respect? We didn't get here by respecting each other; we got here by mercilessly killing each animals, plants and other human beings. We are here because our ancestors suffered torture, pain, starvation, freezing blizzards, blistering suns and ultimate death. Compared to that, respect seems a bit paltry.

People ALWAYS need help, for the most part, yes. But that doesn't mean we should give it to them. We should help each other enough to survive and continue progress, but if people are exceptionally weak and only a burden to the rest of us, why help them?

Whatever helps us survive, I guess. We do not evolve philosophically by words, but by actions, noticeably social Darwinism. If in the future, everyone is helping each other and respectful, then perhaps your philosophy will be proven right. But I doubt this will happen. I find it much more likely than we're going to blow each other up, or at the very least, maintain the status quo in terms of respect and help: That is, help others only when it helps you in some way or another. People who help others for nothing probably will not be around long, despite what Grimm's Fairy Tales say about the issue.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5271465 - 02/06/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can assure you that I have abandoned neither atomic theory nor monism.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5271796 - 02/06/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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yeah, but I dont see where that interconnectedness really matters.... imagine a ball of clay, which every particle is independantly conscious and aware of itself... what does it matter, or what conclusion can be made from one particle realizing that it is only part of a big ball of clay?




The part that makes it interesting is that each particle is a unique faucet of the ball of clay, that is born and lives out it's own dharma and in doing so is given an incredible medium to play and experiment with until it finally concludes it's own existence.

It doesn't matter. There's no point. It's just a realization some people have made whom have chosen to manifest it into their self in order to achieve balance.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Cherk]
    #5272231 - 02/07/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What does Bell's theorem teach? Is it valid here?


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5272359 - 02/07/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

See: epidermis

Fact: The skin is a living organ covered with pores breathing air and with nerve-ends relaying information.
It isn't so much a barrier as it is a bridge.




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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Ravus]
    #5272904 - 02/07/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

We didn't get here by respecting each other

How we got 'here' is irrelevant to our current social behavior. The nations which act with the same brutality employed by the Roman empire are less-than-first-world while the most powerful country in the world, the USA, is(was) based on the principle that "all men are created equal".

People who help others for nothing probably will not be around long

Populations evolve, not individuals. A population which is altruistic has a much better probability of perpetuating itself than a population which fights against itself. (See: Africa)


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #5272927 - 02/07/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Fact: The skin is a living organ covered with pores breathing air and with nerve-ends relaying information.

The air you breathe is not you.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5272959 - 02/07/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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The air you breathe is not you.




And what is you?

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    #5272984 - 02/07/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am a specific arrangement of chemicals.

Chemicals --> Organelles --> Cells --> Tissues --> Organs --> Organ Systems --> Bipedal Primate


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5272998 - 02/07/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I am a specific arrangement of chemicals.

Chemicals --> Organelles --> Cells --> Tissues --> Organs --> Organ Systems --> Bipedal Primate




So why does air not fit into this scheme? :confused:

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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5273031 - 02/07/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Air is a mixture of gases which is not part of my chemical arrangement and, for the most part, is external to it.


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    #5273056 - 02/07/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I notice you didn't include H20 in your list. We're all mostly water inside, y'know. Without it, we'd no longer be alive. Same goes with air, and most, if not all, the things you have listed. Oxygen, like water, is most definitely a part of who we are.




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    #5273089 - 02/07/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The entire world is your body. Just as you wouldn't survive if your heart were subtracted, you wouldn't survive if all forms of plant-life were subtracted. You would be affected by the subtraction of all the water in your body just as much as you would had all the water in the world been subtracted.
The human organism and its own environment are mutually arising - and are interconnected.




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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5273097 - 02/07/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Air is a mixture of gases which is not part of my chemical arrangement and, for the most part, is external to it.




Incorrect. Air is an arrangement of chemicals that interacts as an aspect of your chemical arrangement. If it were not part of your chemical arrangement, "your" chemical arrangement would not be complete - no "you".

This abstract assignment of what is a facet of oneself and what is not can inevitably be reduced down to the level of energy, or atoms.... This energy produced by the Sun is part of me, this energy produced by the Sun is not... :grin:

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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #5273118 - 02/07/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Air != Oxygen

Same goes with air, and most, if not all, the things you have listed.

The list should be read as such:

An arrangement of chemicals (which includes H20) compose an arrangement of organelles which compose an arrangement of cells which compose an arrangement of tissues which compose an arrangement of organs which compose an arrangement of organ systems which compose a bipedal primate.

Anything which is not part of this arrangement is not 'you'. Oxygen, undoubtedly, is included in part of our being, but the oxygen external to this arrangement is only used for cellular respiration and the production of ADP. This process converts oxygen to CO2 which is then expelled from our body.


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    #5273441 - 02/07/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Air != Oxygen


Yes, I realize this.

Anything which is not part of this arrangement is not 'you'.

Why? What is the reason for the line that you have drawn?



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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5274057 - 02/07/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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We didn't get here by respecting each other

How we got 'here' is irrelevant to our current social behavior. The nations which act with the same brutality employed by the Roman empire are less-than-first-world while the most powerful country in the world, the USA, is(was) based on the principle that "all men are created equal".




Oh, but I completely disagree. How we got "here" is a major factor in determining who or what we are, what works and what doesn't, and what we can expect from the future. To say our genetics play a massive role is an understatement, since we basically are the environment acted upon the genetics we are supplied with. And what is the getting "here" other than the evolution of our genetics? It is my belief that all mental states of mind are predisposed in genetics, whether that be altruism, greed, anger or respectful empathy, since the genetics do, after all, lay down the framework for our working brain. Therefore, our social behavior would be at least strongly correlated, if not directly correlated, to how we got "here". Even cultures eventually boil down to our genetic predispositions.

I don't think your view of the US is entirely correct. The US and Roman Empire are both entirely ruthless military powers. We may give more freedom to our citizens nowadays, but in our foreign affairs, we are still largely following the imperialistic path of the Roman Empire in trying to take over or at least affect to our advantage the weaker countries all around the world. At first we explained this under the guise of the Manifest Destiny or the Cold War, and now we justify it using the War on Terror, but in the end, it's the same attitude as the Romans had in conquering areas millenia ago.

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People who help others for nothing probably will not be around long

Populations evolve, not individuals. A population which is altruistic has a much better probability of perpetuating itself than a population which fights against itself. (See: Africa)




If you want to get into an evolutionary debate, Richard Dawkins addressed these points in his book, "The Selfish Gene." Dawkins says that trying to look at evolution with the units of selection being the individual ultimately breaks down; in all actuality, the units of selection are individual genes, with the individual organism just being a byproduct of the evolution of the genes. If this is true, and a certain gene will predisposess an organism to be either selfish or altruistic, then let's take your example and say the entire population is altruistic. Then say one individual in the population develops the selfish gene. The selfish individual will work to further himself, including his reproduction, while the altruists will help him out, effectively giving more and more power to the selfish gene at the sacrifice of the altruistic gene, as the selfish organism would probably eat more and reproduce more, letting the next generation have a higher percentage of selfish organisms. Taken to its logical end, an altruistic population would easily be overrun by selfish organisms.

Your flaw in thinking seems to be that if a population isn't altruistic, it must be fighting itself. In all actuality, I think what we have is a self-serving cooperation, a cooperation of humanity and other animals among mutual selfishness, but that still works nonetheless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene-centered_view_of_evolution


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Ravus]
    #5274383 - 02/07/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

our social behavior would be at least strongly correlated, if not directly correlated, to how we got "here"

Our niche has been changing far too fast for Darwinism to keep up. Humans have an amazing ability to alter there environment for their benefit. Certian brutal or selfish (read: egotistical, sociopathic) characteristics may no longer be needed at all; these are traits from a harsher environment which no longer exists.

Your flaw in thinking seems to be that if a population isn't altruistic, it must be fighting itself. In all actuality, I think what we have is a self-serving cooperation...

Altruism may be the incorrect word for me to use. I think its unhealthy to put others before yourself and especially frown on maryterdom, but I fail to see why helping others along the way is a bad thing. For yourself or for the species as a whole.

Taken to its logical end, an altruistic population would easily be overrun by selfish organisms.

Then such populations shouldn't exist!


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5274454 - 02/07/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That is why I believe we inevitably evolve "self-serving selfishness". I never hesitate to help others when it helps me, and in doing so, we help society. The philosophy of self-serving selfishness is central to capitalism, because we realize that when companies help themselves by making profits, they also help their employees, and their employees' families, and the economy as a whole. I don't think anyone's going to claim that big fat-cat corporations are altrustic in any way, yet nevertheless our system is running smoothly.

Therefore, the ideas of respect and helping others are relatively useless in my opinion, because you help others by helping yourself. By helping yourself survive in the easiest and most efficient way possible, you often help those around you, like in a capitalistic society. If you go around helping others without having it help you, you won't survive at all; the reason we see people surviving who also help others is because it almost always helps them in some way also, even if it's not always immediately obvious to us how.

Give respect only when you profit from it. Give to others only when it helps you. Help the happiness of others only when it helps the happiness of yourself. This is how the life has survived, and to do otherwise, while slated with good intentions, seems doomed to failure.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Ravus]
    #5274504 - 02/07/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Life is one, we are divided.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Ravus]
    #5274553 - 02/07/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you help others by helping yourself.

Isn't the converse also true, as long as others are willing to return the favor? Take vampire bats, for example. Vampire bats will ensure the survival of their community by sharing his food with any bats who, for whatever reason, didn't get any food. If a vampire bat doesn't share his food, the other bats will not share their food with that bat. Isn't this a case of the "Selfish gene" being selected against?

If you go around helping others without having it help you, you won't survive at all

I completely agree with this.


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: dorkus]
    #5275125 - 02/07/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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What does Bell's theorem teach? Is it valid here?




I've always had trouble interperating physics. I'll have to read further into it at a time when I have more energy to give you a reply that's worthy of posting.

What do you think about Bell's theorem?


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Re: Realize one thing and you will be happy [Re: Cherk]
    #5275859 - 02/07/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

There is no such thing as seperate things or events. We are the apples of the apple tree..


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