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    #5264184 - 02/04/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'm curious as to how many of you path walkers have found giving up 'inappropraite' sexual relations(i.e sex fueled by lust) to be important on your journey? I'm finding the de-attachment of my addictions to sex and masturbation to be very liberating.


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Re: Curious [Re: Cherk]
    #5264213 - 02/04/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i don't know, who am I to question my body and what it wants?

I would say if you feel out of control and youre getting a bad feeling, then you should reevaluate the situation. Otherwise, enjoy being human...


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Re: Curious [Re: Grav]
    #5264269 - 02/04/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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i don't know, who am I to question my body and what it wants?




You're you! Who else should question your bodies desires but you? Does a recovering heroin addict making a real effort to get off the dope say 'the hell with it, who am I to question my body's desires?' Obviously the severity of the situation differs greatly between a sex addict and a dope addict but the point is the same, giving up attachments is good for you(so says my path).


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Re: Curious [Re: Grav]
    #5264291 - 02/04/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I would say if you feel out of control and youre getting a bad feeling, then you should reevaluate the situation. Otherwise, enjoy being human...




Isn't it logical to assume that someone with a sexual addiction problem that is unaware of the negative affects the addiction has on his/her life may have a feeling of total control, when this is obviously not the case? Back to the dope addict analogy, many addicts are unaware of the severity of their addiction until way down the line.

I think you do have a good point here though, in that giving up attachments when you're not ready to, will not work.


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Re: Curious [Re: Cherk]
    #5264295 - 02/04/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

overcomming the sexual addiction is one of the most difficult aspects of the path. congratulations to you if you have accomplished it.


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Re: Curious [Re: Cherk]
    #5264302 - 02/04/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Smoker For Peace said:
the severity of the situation differs greatly between a sex addict and a dope addict




I find the mere analogy to be disturbing. What good can come of violently repressing one's natural desires, other than a throbbing case of blue balls?


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Re: Curious [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5264341 - 02/04/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)


I find the mere analogy to be disturbing. What good can come of violently repressing one's natural desires, other than a throbbing case of blue balls?


peace and freedom. when i am suffering from the sexual attatchment, sexual thoughts continually arise and disturb my peace and clarity of mind. sure having sex or masturbating may stop or lesson the thoughts for a few hours but after that they are always back, always hanging around in the back of my mind making me feel discontent. you know the saying "the average man thinks about sex every 10 seconds" or something like that? well try to imagine the sense of overwhelming freedom you feel when you are free from this.


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Re: Curious [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5264368 - 02/04/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
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the severity of the situation differs greatly between a sex addict and a dope addict




I find the mere analogy to be disturbing.




Why?  The stakes are higher for one rather than the other, but both cases are about stopping something for the improvement of yourself when your body wants you to continue, no?   

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What good can come of violently repressing one's natural desires, other than a throbbing case of blue balls?




If your balls turn blue you aren't ready to give up the attachment  :tongue:  So in other words, no good!  whack away friend! 


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Re: Curious [Re: Cherk]
    #5264396 - 02/04/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It essentially deals with both parties and their intent for having sex.

I personally feel your dope addict analogy was spot on. What is the difference between a person expirementing with substances in a controlled way, and a dope addict dying for his last hit of life?

Your addictions become your world.


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Re: Curious [Re: psyka]
    #5264411 - 02/04/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

karma sutra  :grin:



now if I only I could find a partner who's into psychedelics and spirituality... :crazy:


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Re: Curious [Re: Cherk]
    #5264450 - 02/04/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What good can come of violently repressing one's natural desires

also, the fact that you equate command of the sexual drive with repression means don't fully underdstand what we are trying to describe. repression of the sexual drive doesn't lead to peace, it simply means you are addicted to sex while not having it. in this case the sexual thoughts will become even more intense and disruptive. in the state we are referring to one is free to choose how to make use of their sexuality. it can be compared to eating sweets i suppose. according to you it would seem one should never try to repress their physical craving for sweets and as result become very unhealthy and still never feel completely satisfied. what we advocate is a state of non attatchment where one is free to eat sweets if they so choose but does not think about and crave them in their absense.

edit: man i can never remember to reply to the right person. you would all be well adivsed to just ignore the part that says who i'm replying too because in 50% of my posts it is incorrect.


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Re: Curious [Re: Deviate]
    #5264469 - 02/04/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Deviate said:


edit: man i can never remember to reply to the right person. you would all be well adivsed to just ignore the part that says who i'm replying too because in 50% of my posts it is incorrect.




:grin:  Second time I've noticed it tonight  :tongue2:

Tis all good brother :sun: :heart:


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