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Jokah
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First time tripper, long time reader.
#5157001 - 01/09/06 12:07 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Weee first post. Ok so a friend of mine who I work with has chased up some acid, he's fairly experience as he did a bit of it back in his hay day (he's 29 and I'm 18 fyi). I've always wanted to try acid, I've read just about every link on erowid pertaining to LSD and feel that I'm quite informed on the drug.
At first I was quite scared of my mind and what it might show me, terrified of having a bad trip etc but just recently I have overcome this in a big way, I hold no fear towards the drug, only respect. So I feel mentally up to the challenge, I realize that a bad trip may happen and if it does I'm just gonna ride it out, a bad trip doesn't scare me it's quite the opposite in that if I do have one I believe it will show me some very scary things but I feel I'll learn greatly from it.
Past experiences with drugs have been: Pot, Ketamine, Ecstasy and speed.
Now my plan is to buy a whole sheet of blotter so I don't have to chase this guy around to get it again, I will ingest either 1 or 2 doses and do some of the following - -Drawing. -Trip journal. -play some old school Atari like video games. -Listen to some Beatles, Pink Floyd etc. -Chill out and let my mind talk to me.
Can anyone else recommend some cool things to do while tripping?
I also have another question, my best friend would like to do some acid but he is very afraid of his mind and he seems to think he'll cut himself or something, I have pretty much told him that he shouldn't do acid because he could end up doing some damage mentally. He said he once felt depressed for a week after doing pot and after hearing this I've basically taken him off the donor list. Is it wrong of me to do this, should I let him take a small dose or would it be wiser not to?
Thanks alot fellas, wish me luck, I'll eventually update this post after I've received the acid.
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Jokah]
#5157385 - 01/09/06 03:53 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mmmm... LSD! 
Sounds like your mindset is great going in to this, and you've done your research. From those two things alone I'd say you're in for some wonderful experiences. Far from a bad trip, I imagine you'll have a grin plastered to your face half the time and a peacefully-at-bliss expression most of the rest. No guarantees, of course, but a hit or two of acid in my experience is very enjoyable and pretty controllable. Lots of good thinking and insight to it too, especially if you spend some time by yourself.
All of those are great things to do while tripping. Acid can make even the most logical minds impressively creative and appreciative of beauty in all things. I personally made a couple fingerpaintings while under its magic. Not especially good ones, mind you, but I never do any sort of art sober and found myself playfully fingerpainting. It's wonderful stuff. I also sat for awhile in the middle of the kitchen floor, eating Cheeze-Its and staring into a random piece of pretty colored paper. So, it seems, most anything is good while tripping. Don't worry, you'll find ways to occupy yourself. And if you don't have something around for the first time you could always ready it for the next.
As far as friend, I'd probably suggest no acid at this point in his life. If he thinks that he'll cut himself or something, there's a very real chance that he'd manifest that in an actual trip solely because of his own expectations. If you do end up giving him some, do so after you've tested it so you know what to expect, give him a lightish dose, and you and/or other friends hang out with him all day while he's on it to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid. Then if he likes and trusts the drug and his reactions to it he could try a little more some later time.
Good luck!  You'll have a blast, and likely learn an awful lot.
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: GulGen]
#5157978 - 01/09/06 11:27 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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give your friend a controlled placebo test. that way if he cuts himself you will know not to give him acid.
seriously, suicidal ppl should never be given acid. they not only might injure themselves but also others cuz usually if you dont care about yourself you dont care about others.
-------------------- "A friend of mine was famous for holding his hits until his face swelled up and turned bright red. The veins in his neck and forehead would bulge and he'd get bug-eyed. He'd start sweating. Then he'd belch the hit out violently, along with plenty of spit, and gasp for air." ~UBAKO
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Jokah
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: keefboy]
#5165584 - 01/10/06 11:54 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The guy isn't suicidal, he's happy most the time and fairly well rooted but he seems to think that the drug will make him do it.
I've told him no anyway and he's agreed he shoudln't do it.
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Jokah]
#5165609 - 01/11/06 12:00 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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have fun
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DLittle
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#5165746 - 01/11/06 12:25 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I havent been tripping for very long but I think i have a fair understanding of psychedelics. I dont think it is posible to have "bad trip" if you dont fear the drug. It seams like alot of virgin users have the fear of tripping probably based on mostly social infulences. I have never really had any fear of the experiences and I think because of it have never had any totally negative experiences. I am not saying I have never been incredibly uncomfortable at times especially when I dosed a little higher than I should, but my experiences with psychedelics have always ending in an amazing clarity. I guess my advice from one new psychonaut to another is dont worry, dont be afraid, just go with the flow man.
-------------------- "I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to also." Mitch Hedburg "Keep on dreamin', cuz when you stop dreamin' it's time to die" Blind Melon
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Jokah
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: DLittle]
#5258212 - 02/03/06 03:04 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well the time has come, now my friend is spose to come around tomorrow night, however being that we're always booked up this is the last chance we're gonna have to trip. Anywho my parents will be home, I'm ok with this as I've rolled by myself and with my friend and smoked up in my room before with parents being home. They never come in my room when I have a friend over, do you think it would be cool for me to take a light dose, like just one trip while my parents are here?
The only thing I'm thinking is that the drug itself might make me paranoid about my parents even though I know they won't interupt me.
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Jokah]
#5258229 - 02/03/06 03:18 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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do it
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Cutter
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: new_to_shrooms]
#5258272 - 02/03/06 04:47 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have dosed many times throughout my life, and I started when I was 12, so I really know a lot about dealing with parents.
I was always the stable one, and a couple of my friends were always loud and obnoxious, and sometimes when people trip THEY DON"T RELIZE THEY ARE TALKING REALLY LOUD! Especially at three in the morning when your five barred drill sergeant step dad is sleeping in the next room, wakes up and comes in and yells at you, just imagine a guy who's faces turns red and veins pop out in his forehead yelling at you and you can't stop laughing at him.
Pretty scary shit man. 
Hopefully your buddies cool and doesn't pull the after school special over drama, like "call the police I think I'm dying" "I don't like this, I don't like this" type of people. They are usually the over sheltered people that paralyze in fear if they don't have constant bearing of whats going on because they are insecure. You need to have a sense of adventure for acid, be excited to try it... You seem like you got it down pat for a newbie.
I have dealt with one guy that was certified schizo, acid and schizophrenia is a very bad combo, so if your friend is on any sort of anti depressant you really don't want to trip with him.
It's easy to dismiss acid as that bad if you tried it and felt fine, but that is because you let go and embraced the experience, people that don't know how to let go will get spooked, and probably have a shitty time, but it will teach him courage in the end, it just will ruin your trip as well.
I have talked people out of bad trips, sometimes people just need to see you at peace, and need to be reaffirmed that this is fun, and it will end soon enough, and they will be sorry if they pout through the whole thing in the end.
Be careful of certain girls, the thing that sets men apart from women is when you and a girl are tripping together and you really don't know each other to well, if she freaks out, women REALLY freak out! There will be a serious distrust in her eyes like you are going to rape her, she will get really paranoid and want to leave, women are a little less rational then men on a curve, she will want to call her parents, or worse yet, the cops... If her friend is with, then the drama will get really thick as they try to stick up for each other and demand to be taken home, but you really don't want to talk to your parents!
Or you guys could become really good friends and have a great time... If a girl admits she was molested to you, never give them acid, EVER!
There are two people in the world, the ones that can trip and have a very rewarding experience, and the ones that freak out. It makes it almost not worth it starting out, because you don't have too many tripping establish friends. I only found 2 in the past 20 years that are self sufficient trippers, and don't need my support to have a good time.
Sorry if I'm rambling on, but I think certain things need to be considered before making a potential mistake.
Also, a whole sheet of acid is a lot, I think two 10 strips will tide you over for quite awhile, plus you don't have to try and store it in the freezer so it doesn't loose potency. Unless you are planning on selling it, there is huge profits to made selling Cid, and it's the easiest drug to carry around. But if you get busted selling that shit it is prison time in most states.
Just be very careful who you sell to, and if you are not sure, only trade them shit for it, never take cash from them.
One more thing, acid will change you a little bit every time you dose, a little piece of you doesn't full come back from the trip. The little pieces I lost were my ignorance and some ego, but don't over kill on acid, there isn't nothing to prove by taking 20 hits at once. Stick with 1-3 hits at a time, and never go past five unless it is really weak acid... Any more is asking for over dementia, strong flash backs, and trouble.
Find a safe place to dose, don't go out partying on acid, shrooms you can get away with on low doses, but acid is too strong, and a bunch of drunken retards trying to pick a fight with you when you are tripping would not be good. This is just my personal advice, take it with a grain of salt, and use common sense.
Added Note: A lit candle makes for a good focus point, if you are every tripping too hard, look at the flame of the candle, it will give your mind some type stable reference point, the flame is constantly moving keeping the mind focused, even though you might be seeing the flame in a collideascope, you will still have a sense of peace from that small stability if the trip is going "too far". It will give you time to relax.
Edited by Cutter (02/03/06 05:05 AM)
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Jokah
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Cutter]
#5263344 - 02/04/06 04:53 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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So, I guess I'll write up my experience. My friend and I dosed at around 8:30 (.75tab each) about 45mins later we both started to feel waves of energy hitting us over and over, it felt like I should have been running around but alas I couldn't. I'm guessing another hour after that I noticed my bottle of water was breathing along with my walls, so I put on some music and laid on my bed looking at my roof. I have one of those big round light fixtures which just happened to look like this big clown face smiling back at me while he was riding the waves in my roof. My friend at this point was quiet I guess, he was seeing stuff aswell.
As I laid there listening to the doors I looked up at this picture on my wall at an odd angle, the picture is of a dude riding a superbike around a corner. The front fairing and his body started to turn into this zombies which I just sort of laughed at but dared not look back at the picture. Then it hit me, my friend was really tripping balls he was seeing little people on the floor and was getting sudden body jolts from being scared of the milk drop plugin I had running.
Anxiety hit me in a big way, my chest felt like a balloon, what had I done? Why did I give him this terrible drug? Is he gonna freakout? Shit! he was really tripping, he was talking to my rotating fan when I spoke to him and he was talking to himself alot. I knew this anxiety wouldn't ease and I was having a bad trip, I had to become the mother figure and make sure he doesn't do anything crazy. I laid on my bed with my eyes shut as time crawled by at a pace I'd never felt before, wishing for him to come down so I didn't have to worry about him waking parents or having a bad trip. I was assuring him that some scary things were not there and that he was tripping etc.
He got up off my floor and laid on my bed, ever so slightly the anxiety was easing, he wasn't tripping as hardcore anymore but very scattered and he was questioning reality, he said he was gonna goto sleep in the other room, I was glad to hear it because I had a felling like I was gonna explode. As we left my room he said to me "This drug does realllly bad things to realities."
My thoughts were scattered, I figured that I had taken one for the team to look after him, because given the chance he would have crawled into parents/sisters room to trip out. I got in bed and just thought about everything but I was so confused and realised I couldn't come to any conclusions that night. This was 2am. I was still seeing things but not to the severity as the peaks hallucinations.
I must conclude from this that, I really don't enjoy tripping with others because I feel the urge to take the mother figure position. I really would like to take another light dose and trip again by myself sometime in the future. I'm annoyed because this was meant to be great for me, he was just along for the ride, hell he didn't really wanna do it at first.
I'm still pretty scattered, I think I slept but it feels like I was awake but not there for 7 hours.
SET and SETTING huh, it's for real.
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Re: First time tripper, long time reader. [Re: Jokah]
#5263960 - 02/04/06 08:00 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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I just tripped last night for the first time with a friend, 2 blotters on the tounge and the rest of the night was the most amazing experiance I've ever had in my entire life. I'll never be able to look at alot of things the same and thats entirely okay. I feel like I've learned a new emotion, a whole diffrent state of mind, and whole diffrent way to look at things, like a sort of new language, which is funny because when I was tripping It was like I was trying to make the connection between Reality and "Now" ("now" being tripping), and it was like trying to translate English into a foreign language, or vise versa. I just couldnt explain it, but I sure as hell understood it because I was living it. One of the most amazing experiances... thats all I have to say... Kudos to you on your first trip and cheers.
One more thing, is it just me, or does time have no meaning when your on acid?
-------------------- Mescaline man, im in need!!!
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