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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5266145 - 02/05/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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MB Quart....




I've always liked their stuff, usualy the cost is the limiting factor, that why i start with the infinity recomendation


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5266149 - 02/05/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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MB Quart.... you want badass sound, look 'em up. I put 2 2" tweets,  4 3-way 6x9's, and then added a Precision Power 2 channel 400w amp for my 2 Power Accoustic 10" in a tuned and sealed box. It's NOT cheap but DAMN! they are nice.... I don't think they're breakable! You can really REALLY push the limit of power with them and they have never crackled, popped, or made any kind of distortion that I can discern.... but I'm deaf 'cause of my car stereo... :lol:




I second the MB quart suggestion, but i really hate 3 ways. they always sound terrible. i wouldn't do anything more than a coaxil. Polk has some descent stuff too


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: cookeman]
    #5266154 - 02/05/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thank god no one has recomended kickers


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: cookeman]
    #5266156 - 02/05/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I woulda said the same about 3-ways, but MB Quart is different.


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5266160 - 02/05/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Kicker = over rated high school kid crap.


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5266172 - 02/05/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #5266182 - 02/05/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

And my stuff is about 5 years old now.... Still blows away most stuff out there. Never had a problem with them, rock solid construction, heavy mags and coils, BUILT FOR ABUSE.


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5266185 - 02/05/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the L7's are good stuff though. I hate that they're square. I really can't stand that, but oh well they sound descent. other than that i don't like kicker that much at all.


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    #5266467 - 02/05/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5266474 - 02/05/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I love the W7 too, but it's way too overpriced. You can get a resonant engineering XXX for less than half the price and it sounds almost as good. or a brahma for the same price but sounds even a little better than the xxx. Alpine head units are pretty good, but i'm not all that happy with their speakers


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: cookeman]
    #5266643 - 02/05/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Head units are a bit more preference and application dependant. I have used alpine and Blaupunkt (sp?).... wasn't much difference between the 2 but the price... Actually, Sony makes some excellent head units too, even if they aren't "cool" technophile units. I like the double din units best though, if you have the dash space. Better display, usually you can get doubles with higher power ratings, and they flip open all stylish like... :wink:


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mediman0078]
    #5267096 - 02/05/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

MB Quart is a pile of suck now :frown:

CDT is a much better route for decent quality coaxials without to much cost.  So is infinity, though I find their tweeters a bit harsh.

Image dynamics makes some nice stuff as well, not sure if they even have coaxials though.

Buy a small amp that puts out 100rms over 2 channel (or 100rms over 4 channels if you want to add a single sub later) and buy a decent set of components for 200ish or so.  JL Audio XR's are nice, DLS, CDT, etc.

http://www.caraudioforum.com.

Ask there, not here. :wink:


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: mndfreeze]
    #5268516 - 02/06/06 04:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuse...0CB4F34CB5DEC92

If you can find the CDT CL61A for cheap like this, I would definitly go with this, along with a ~150 watt rms x 2 at 4 ohms amplifier.  I would ditch the rear speakers and use the extra money if you can't afford two sets of speakers and an amp.  Believe me, one set of good comps like these powered by a good amp will be plenty loud and sound mightly clean to boot.  Rock on.

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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: D4NK]
    #5268541 - 02/06/06 05:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yup. Rear stage just screws up the image anyways. A properly ampd front stage will fill an entire car loud enough to go past your ears distortion points anyways.

40, you've heard my last car. You only need a decent set of front components and a nice 100 watts a channel to make em sound good. A single 12 with decent power will fill a low end.


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: 40oz]
    #5281219 - 02/09/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you don't mind gettin' your hands dirty, cuttin' up your car a bit and runnin' multiple wires -- talk to Dylan Matlow over at OlogyAudio.  I've used one of his crossover sets with a dayton reference series midwoofer and tweeter and its great.  He's also got more customized solid equipment on the way (workin' with a partner to start their own speaker build house), but who knows how long that'll take to come to fruition. 

CDT's a solid brand, but they're mainstream -- run with the little guy and create some change!  :sun:


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: geokills]
    #5281239 - 02/09/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you could always get a 4 channel amp and run your speaker through that. Good speakers need CLEAN power that's consistent. RMS is key and using good cables is also key. I had a 4 channel JBL amp going to polk audio and the sound was GREAT!. IF you have a small car battery a capacitor cap is good to take strain of the battery.

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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: 40oz]
    #5284388 - 02/10/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Here is some pics of my final system in my new car.











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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: 40oz]
    #5284463 - 02/10/06 02:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Forget the rear fill. Stick with fronts, and a small sub. Also, let me echo the infinity suggestions. :smile:

If you're able to and willing to do things right, and mount for much better sound, get these:
http://search.ebay.com/5863024688 (166$ shipped)

Since you're not too concerned with bass, a cheap 10" sub will do the trick:
http://search.ebay.com/5864377416 (~50$ shipped)

To power everything, this is a great amp, and gives you the options to expand and change your system as you see fit in the future. Its a great amp. :smile:
http://search.ebay.ca/5761a (260$ shipped)

To hook everything up, just get any old 4gauge amp kit:
http://search.ebay.com/5865081034 (30$ shipped)

50' 12gauge Speaker wire:
http://search.ebay.com/5862709354 (17$ shipped)

20ft Twisted pair RCA connects:
http://search.ebay.com/5861901254 (20$ shipped)

3/4" MDF 10" sub enclosure, proper dimenions to match sub.
Get it locally.. should be about 25$.

So everything you need for a total of about 575$ shipped.

Those 4x6" speaker mounts are probably not in the most ideal position, and probably won't give very good imaging, regardless of the speaker's quality. You're most likely much better off cutting the doors and mounting the speakers there, or molding them in the kicker panels.. For the parts I suggested, I'd strongly suggest running that amp in trimode, which would give you 2 channels at 150wrms, and a single 280wrms channel for the woofer. I'd go for those components, running off the two 150w channels, and forget rear fill. Place the component's subs in the kicker panels, and the tweeters in the window columns (google on how to do this correctly). Mount the amp to the back of your trunk, and put the sub in an MDF enclosure in the trunk facing towards the front of the car. The amp will provide plenty of clean power for your speakers, and you'll never have to worry about it sending nasty clipped power. Adjust and tune everything to your liking... and you'll have one kick ass system. If you want to bring the SQ up a notch, replace the cheap sub with a decent 10".. like an infinity kappa perfect, which you can find typically on ebay for around 130$ shipped.

Best of luck on your system.. its an addicting hobby... and I only wish I had done it right the first time, rather than wasting time with cheaper components, and poor mounting locations.

Buy nice, or buy twice, they always say.. and do it right, do it once... etc. etc. :smile:


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: GrapeSoda]
    #5284467 - 02/10/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Also, forget stiffening caps. I don't feel like getting into it, but they don't do anything. If you're having power troubles, get a better altenator, and a better battery.

Screw caps. :P


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Re: Car audiophiles [Re: GrapeSoda]
    #5284480 - 02/10/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the thing I hate about most car systems is not only the shitty rattling sound caused by everything vibrating, its the size of speakers they have in there.

18 inch speakers? wtf? they reproduce down to atleast 40 Hz... and the wavelength on most of the subsonic frequencies is 10 to 30 feet long. you cant even hear anything under 80 Hz sitting in a car.


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