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Invisiblehokemon
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Hypholoma....whaa?
    #5263105 - 02/04/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, I am no stranger to hypholoma fasciculare, and have read up on sublateritium and capnoides, but what do you suspect these wee imitators of sulfur tufts are?

Post submission just err'd and deleted my lengthy description, so just know the spore print was purple-brownish, habitat mostly pine chipped, southern garden. Look at pic to infer size.



Do you think they may be hypholoma subviride? I cannot find enough information on this species to be sure, however...
thanks guys.


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: hokemon]
    #5263444 - 02/04/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think they are Hypholoma fasciculare too.


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: falcon]
    #5263548 - 02/04/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ya look like normal old tufts to me.


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #5263658 - 02/04/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Me makes three of us.


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: shroomydan]
    #5263725 - 02/04/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would agree that they're Hypholoma fasciculare, but I might also say they vaugely resemble Psilocybe cyanescens, except I believe the spore print of cyanescens is not purply at all. The color of the caps is different, too. Cyanescens also grows in a habitat similar as where you found those.

Although I'm more confident in saying they are Hypholoma fasciculare


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: Ashland]
    #5263779 - 02/04/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

cyanescens dont grow on pine chips.

cyanescens spore prints are very purple.


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Re: Hypholoma....whaa? [Re: starseed1066]
    #5263798 - 02/04/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ahh then I am mistaken, I apologize. I'm a bit high right now and seem to be confusing my knowledge.

Cyanescens does grow in pine-forested areas though I do believe.

though like I said, I'm pretty sure they are Hypholoma as well


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I'm not so sure. [Re: Ashland]
    #5264864 - 02/05/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Cyans? What is that supposed to be a joke? CAT FOOD looks more like cyans, which grow NOWHERE near here! heh!

Anyhow, I am not so sure these are genuine sulfur tufts guys.... I have found genuine sulfur tufts many times, and they look a noticeable amount different. The REAL sulfur tufts I found (many places around here, all looked like similar phenotype) had a much greater "depth" to the gills, the typical spore-catching scruff near stem apex, and grew about 2-3 times the size of the teensy, but mature specimens depicted above. The cap was ALWAYS more bell shaped than the above, big time, and never really grew as flat as them while small. The others also ALWAYS had remnants of veil roughing up the margin of the cap, and never had clean edges like my current find. Here is a good up-close picture of my other hypholomas(fasciculare) (which I found over a period of months, many times) They look VERY different to the ones in my yard, now.



Surely these dramatic differences in nearly all anatomies of the fruiting body mean a different species.... or do they?!


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Here's another. [Re: hokemon]
    #5264880 - 02/05/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Although this was clearly before I was good at using my camera, this picture shows the differences in an outside setting (I made it smaller to maximize crap-ola detail :smile: ). Notice stem, gill, cap, shape, and size differences between the first picture.



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Re: I'm not so sure. [Re: hokemon]
    #5265917 - 02/05/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The missing veil remnants I noticed after I posted, when I find sulfer tufts they almost always look like the smaller one you found, almost all of them have veil remnant on the stem though, so I'm not sure what yours are now.
I'm leaning towards sulfur tuft.


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