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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down in Canada [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5279271 - 02/08/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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substitute SUV with economy car with snow tires and you've just discribed canada
as well. Honestly there is no difference between our countries, thousands
of blinded people that buy into the propaganda that our governments spew, the
biggest part of the bullshit being the freedoms we 'enjoy'.




I'm afraid I have to disagree.
As much as our countries look like brothers in their actions, it is undeniable that they are different. Canada is the little brother.




and like any little brother, they try to emulate the bigger brother, I had a
discussion in the pub in which a canadian stated the reason he hated america is
because of the way we keep our people in poverty and our high homeless rates,
the statistics for 2 similar cities, Atlanta and Toronto, bot having about
5 million people shows atlanta with about 20,000 homeless and toronto with
35,000, it also showed toronto with more than double the unemployement rate

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We clearly do share much of our way of life with our neighbors here in North America. However this is the American way of life we are living together. Even the briefest glance into the legal and economic structures of our countries will allow you to see this. Canada is a country torn between European evolution and American money.




maybe you and many other should actualy read about whats going on in canada as
well as whats happening in america, like it or not, canada is in the beginnings
of a drug war, arrests for marijuana and other drugs are on the rise, the recent
events with OG and the seed sellers also demonstrate this, be a good canadian
and deny it some more anything else would be seditious, the people in the US
closed their eyes to events like these, look where we are now.

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And although Canada is beginning to share in the political conservatism which has brought the American powers so much control, much of our populous is still struggling to fight it off. Our leaders may be gazing down the same slippery slope of greed and self-righteousness that Bush is, but where we are still managing to hold Harper's reigns, Bush has already plunged headlong downward.




america thinks they have control as well, we believed that our votes counted,
if 90% of canada is in support of decriminalization and reform, why then is
marijuana not legal in canada? Why are the laws getting tougher and penalties
actualy getting harsher?


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Canadian mimicry may be just as much a fact of life as American indifference and extortion, but none of these things are irreversible. When the oil is gone, and the war comes, all who stand in the name of equality and free expression will be my brothers regardless of border or belief.




this statement nullifies your first in this post, Canada is in fact America jr.
When the oil is gone and the war comes, what will canadians use to defend
themselves against those that dont stand for equality and free expression,
the people have allowed the tools of freedom to be stripped from your hands
under the guise of saftey of the few and now that those tools are gone, even
more is being stripped away from canada and america is still being blamed.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5279335 - 02/08/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's time you start worrying about your own country's problem instead of bitching about the U.S.'s.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Redstorm]
    #5279926 - 02/08/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I think it's time you start worrying about your own country's problem instead of bitching about the U.S.'s.




from what I've read and heard in the news, online and from people on the street,
america is canadas problem, even the police in canada dont take responsibility
for actions committed by canadian, they're also blamed on americans, the
politicians obviously dont either as observed with the marc emory arrest

"america made me do it"


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5281608 - 02/09/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=8459

have just talked to RC - Servers are OK, RC is not...
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I have just talked on the phone with RC. I know RC, so lets not have any 'was it really him' type responses.

RC shut down the services on the servers - at this point in time the servers have NOT been seized. It appears that OG and CW info is safe and intact - woo hoo!

RC was arrested, and charged concerning the import/export of cannabis seeds - no other charges at this time.

RC has been home for a bit, but is prohibited from using the internet.

RC approved me posting this.

Finally, RC will be issuing a statement through a third party as soon as he has the chance, letting the community know what the situation is.

Could everyone now stop all the hand-wringing, and pull together.


Our thoughts are with you RC - we all wish you the best of luck, and want you to know the community will be here for you.

Mongoose

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"...Just got off the dog and bone (phone) with RC.....He sounds O.K.....and happy to be free after being locked up for well over a week.....He asked me to convey his best wishes to you all......and I suggested that I start a fund for his legal defence......He said that he first had to hear from his lawyer if it was cool to be a benificiary of such a fund......"

This was posted by Gypsy who is now conducting an auction to help RC as all his assets are frozen.




http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21351

RC has been released

I've heard from our contact that RC has been released
I should have a statement for you soon but I can confirm for now that the servers
were turned off by RC so theres no IP log's
recent report's on Cannabis Culture that RC had fled are totally wrong

for now thats all I have


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5281929 - 02/09/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Many people are saying the above report is bogus. Obviously, I dont know any more than anyone else...

But they say there is no arrest record, no bail hearing, nothing. People in contact with the news media up there say they havent heard a whiff of any arrest or anything like that.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5282444 - 02/09/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It certainly could be. But would it be any more/less confirmed than the original posts?


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5282998 - 02/09/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5284213 - 02/09/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

On site grow... they pulled a PF, but with some coke too.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5285305 - 02/10/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

So who'se spreading the disinformation that the ip logs wern't seized? Are the cops trying to put everyone at their ease before raiding?

Charged: 2) Richard BOUCHER
Date of Birth: 31 May 1956
Address: 316 Prince Street
Hearst, ON

Offences: 1 count of Production of a Controlled Substance ? Cannabis Marijuana - Section 7(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.
1 count of Possession of a Controlled Substance ? Cannabis Marijuana - for the Purpose of Trafficking - Section 5(2) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.


So this guy had a grow operation going at the same time he was advertising seeds for sale? What the fuck?



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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: simtap]
    #5285346 - 02/10/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: creamrocks]
    #5285760 - 02/10/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I totally forgot. This is totally unrelated to RC's bust.
This was made perfectly clear at the original time of Overgrow going down. It was very specifically stated that the Hearst bust is unrelated.

Slipped my mind. Oops.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5285851 - 02/10/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

As Geo has said here, there is no need to panic.

We have for years been actively planning for problems such as this, mind you I still think that RC is being charged for other things, that his website is not comprimised.

IF the website itself was doing something illegal according to laws on the books now, it would be news to the legal community. There are organizations dedicated to protecting such websites, full of brilliant lawyers who are keeping watch so to speak on the legal front of the war on drugs.

Not to say you shouldn't take precautions, my god you should be taking precautions without these kinds of stories to inspire you. Never get into a hobby like this without FULLY realizing the risk you take. Take precautions, but realize that sometimes even the most careful will be arrested.

Weigh out the risk vs the reward.

I can only just repeat what Geo said already that we are doing our due diligance with protecting this website, legal counsel is avaible to us and we use it.

I wish all the best for Richard, he's a nice guy and now I know why I haven't gotten any email replies in the last week :wink:


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Thor]
    #5286005 - 02/10/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, i've read ever post in here and I must say it's quite amazing, all of it. I true eye opener to say the least.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5286122 - 02/10/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Got to get Jiggy with it, yeah that's it!


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: sunshine]
    #5286325 - 02/10/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

hmmmmmm....


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: TheStudent]
    #5286958 - 02/10/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

veiw the stickys at icmag hopefully soon we'll get some truth.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: creamrocks]
    #5287029 - 02/10/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

seems emery keeps making rc come off as a bad guy? i dunno
too much misinfomation, im going to bed.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21578


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Thor]
    #5288031 - 02/11/06 07:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

As Geo has said here, there is no need to panic.


Having said that I think it would be wise to make it clear in the grow forums and other boards that it's perfectly possible for the cops to take the servers, track you down through your ip log, pay you a visit and use your posts at the shroomery if any charges are brought against you.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: simtap]
    #5289132 - 02/11/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Doesn't that go without saying? Self-responsibility isn't something that ought to be flipped on and off depending upon whether or not one is in the virtual world. If you are involved with a criminal activity, you always need to take precaution to maximize your safety -- online or otherwise. We don't want to plaster such paranoia all over the boards, but we do try to make it clear within our various public documents and stickies, including our new user agreement:
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We at this BB also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you. Think before you post!




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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: geokills]
    #5289502 - 02/11/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i wouldn't stress it, even if they did pull names and ip's off his comp. its not like they are going to send out search warrants for literaly thousands of people.


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