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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: DaReD3ViL]
    #5263581 - 02/04/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thank god for google cache#@$$ i needed to visit there so badly lol


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: geokills]
    #5263750 - 02/04/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Geo, if the Shroomery server were ever seized, would a fed tech be able to ascertain our I.P. addresses, and therefore actual addresses?

This site has a puppet locater software thingy that works off of I.P. addresses doesn't it? Doesn't that mean a record of our I.P. addresses is kept for the puppet tracker to use to ascertain puppets?

Just wondering.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down in Canada [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5263804 - 02/04/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The Shroomery does indeed keep IP logs, which have been cleared from time to time but with which the authorities may have a chance of locating the origin of your connection.  I'm no tech expert, and don't know the logistics behind it all.. so as I stated earlier:
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There will always be a risk, but remember that spores are not illegal; and also that in an online community of some 40,000 users with millions of posts, it is nearly impossible that any legal authority would dedicate the resources necessary to go after every John and Jane that have sent a print somewhere. Though the government may waste money on making a point, I doubt they would waste that much money as it would likely damage their reputation in the public eye and probably result in a larger outcry for the legalization and decriminalization of such non-toxic substances, in lieu of throwing millions (billions?) of tax-payer revenue at the "problem".

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It is important for everyone to act responsibly for their own safety and the safety of those they care about when they are dealing with any activity deemed illegal by our governments. While one certainly shouldn't panic, one should also beware not to let the anonymity of the internet blanket oneself with a false sense of security.

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Be safe everyone :spliff:
Remember to post responsibly, here and everywhere! :mushroom2:




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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: geokills]
    #5263809 - 02/04/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for your honesty :thumbup:


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5263866 - 02/04/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well lots of IPs now aren't static, so they change all the time. something about every restart, or every time the connection is interrupted. i'm not positive tho.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: starseed1066]
    #5263936 - 02/04/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

But if they have the I.P. and the date/time of the connection, the ISP can and will provide the pigs with a subscriber address.

Seen it on court t.v.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5264156 - 02/04/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yea IP address are pretty "smart."

I havn't quite been able to figure out how to "mask" my IP yet. But yes, you can use IP addresses to find a physical address. (Computer Science minor here)

Seriously though, I am freaking out pretty much now. I was a pretty high and respected member of OG about 3 or 4 years ago. Havn't logged in in a while, but my IP is static, so its the same as it was.

Thanks for this info though! It's a shame. I really really liked OG, despite the slow as fucking bloody hell servers.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: tokey666]
    #5264177 - 02/04/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

And furthermore, anyone who would like to keep their IP addresses hidden, you need to use something called a PROXY SERVER. Do a goodle seach. And also, there are various programs/services avaiable to do this for you as well.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5264185 - 02/04/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Microcosmatrix said:
But if they have the I.P. and the date/time of the connection, the ISP can and will provide the pigs with a subscriber address.

Seen it on court t.v.




But many will require a court order or subpoena before they do so and the cops/feds can't just go to the court and say "These are all the IPs who have been on the site, give us a subpoena for all of them", they have to show evidence of illegal activity for each one all of which takes time and resources. Then actually doing a criminal investigation on those people would require yet even more resources.

Really, the only ones who have even the slightest thing to worry about are people who flaunt being a major commercial sized grower in a place where such is illegal. I'd hope those people are taking extra precautions against such things.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Ecwfrk]
    #5264391 - 02/04/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: sever]
    #5264468 - 02/04/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What a month -- first Winchester Arms goes out of business, then Overgrow! All the monoliths of American Culture are falling!!!

Walgreens will be the next to go.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: sever]
    #5264527 - 02/04/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

As I stated in my other thread, I think this reeks of another DEA interference into Canadian affairs. The first being Marc Emery.


Recently, I mean. (I'm sure the DEA has been fucking with canada for years) It's like stage 2 of their most recent bullshit.  :evil:


(And you are probably correct in seeing a likely connection in the timing of this with the installation of the new Bush friendly bastard Prime Minister in Canada. ):nonono:


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down in Canada [Re: geokills]
    #5264581 - 02/04/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

New update:

http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

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New Information Regarding Police Seizures of Overgrow.com
by Marc Emery (03 Feb, 2006)

Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company and Eurohemp.com Owners Apprehended

Cannabis Culture has developed a timeline of events we believe accurately account for the disappearance of Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), and Eurohemp.

On Monday evening, resident of Montreal Richard Calrisian, the owner of the four websites, was contacted by his web service providers in Vancouver where his servers were situated. They told him that there may be a problem, regarding a police investigation. RC told his provider to shut down the websites immediately.

Within hours, the police (it's unknown what kind of police) apparently entered the server site in Vancouver with a warrant and apprehended the hardware that housed the four web sites.

In the early morning of Tuesday, police in Montreal moved in and arrested RC, his wife, family members and an unknown number of employees.

It is alleged that RC, a pseudonym, is being held at Riviere-des-Prairie (RDP) jail in Montreal, and his wife in is Tanguay jail, across the river from RDP. Cannabis Culture called the prison and found no one there under the name Richard Calrisian.

The bail hearing should be on Monday, but it is unusual that a bail hearing has not yet been held. Typically they take place within 24 hours of arrest, unless an investigation is ongoing and the accused are being held temporarily without bail. This may be because there is a risk that the arrest news might inform other persons who are also under investigation.

Earlier reports of a drug bust in Hearst, Ontario are not related the seizure of Overgrow.com websites.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Ecwfrk]
    #5264697 - 02/04/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Ecwfrk said:
Quote:

Microcosmatrix said:
But if they have the I.P. and the date/time of the connection, the ISP can and will provide the pigs with a subscriber address.

Seen it on court t.v.




But many will require a court order or subpoena before they do so and the cops/feds can't just go to the court and say "These are all the IPs who have been on the site, give us a subpoena for all of them", they have to show evidence of illegal activity...




Stop. Everyone who ever posted a live Marijuanna plant (crime) on OG now has compromised security, period.

The pigs can plan and present bullshit evidence to obtain a warrant(s) and leave it up to you to dispute it later in court.

You have no rights until you go to court and fight for them usually.

It's what they know that matters. Whatever you post on the internet you might as well tack up on telephone poles around town.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5265101 - 02/05/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
The pigs can plan and present bullshit evidence to obtain a warrant(s) and leave it up to you to dispute it later in court.




cops MUST articulate reasonable suspicion that they believe a person has
committed a crime or is about to commit a crime in order to obtain a warrant,
they cannot present 'bullshit evidence', in a case such as this, they would have
to present the judge with something along the lines of the IP logs for your user
name, photos or private/public messages that incriminate you like a request for
seeds from another member... thats a lot of PMs to go through a judge generaly
will not issue a warrant if he doesnt believe there is sufficient evidence to
convict, this probably doesnt apply in canada

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You have no rights until you go to court and fight for them usually.




understand you're talking first about an international situation, for the US,
you do have rights, of course if you're arrested you then have a new set of
rights in addition to the others, you dont have to prove anything, the state
has to make the case, you just have to punch holes in it, how many times have
you been called by the name of 'defendant'

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It's what they know that matters. Whatever you post on the internet you might as well tack up on telephone poles around town.




3 people use my computer regularly, 3 more on a less frequent basis, what
exactly can they know, that my computer is connected to the internet, that
some one used it to access a website and that it was done within certain
hours, posting it on a utility pole can actualy be safer, you have the plausable
deniability aspect, after all, who would make public confessions in such a way


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5265114 - 02/05/06 01:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you're paranoid about IP stuff. download Tor. Its easy to set up and works well. for example, google thinks im in the netherlands or sometimes italy. Thats annoying b/c its in another language, but you can always go to google.us. anyway, i guess the main point of my post is Tor. download it! tor.eff.org --> yes, eff! i love them.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5265146 - 02/05/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Presumably if the shroomery goes the same way the cops will have the IP's of everyone who has ever posted about growing mushrooms or extracting mescaline and will be paying them a visit?

Might be an idea to start editing posts.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down in Canada [Re: geokills]
    #5265250 - 02/05/06 03:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

all that i can say is that all towns go to counties, and then all counties go to states, and all states go to country, and this country is run by our "beloved" GWB, who is a complete ass.


in this case do you really wonder why we are oppresed????  we in the "good old" U S of A have more people in prizon than the rest of the world, and they call this country a "free country"? It's FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!"  so why dont we all vote against these bullshit laws????

I'll tell you why. It's because it doesn' matter worth a FUCK if we vote one way or the other. THEY ASSIGN WHO THEY WANT, not who we "the little people" want. Its the biggest conspiracy known to man!!!


fuck them, and fuck anyone who dis-agrees. there is no proof to back this bullshit up, yet there is tons of PROOF to back against it.

(not to say that i'm some kind of terrorist (cause lord knows that A: i'm too lazy, B: i don't wanna get involved. C: It's not worth it. and D: just let these political FUCKS do their thing or you'll get capped in some mysterious, unsolved mystery way" bullshit.)

.............but fuck this shit. i wish some of us here would actually fucking vote, and make laws PRO-GROWERS.

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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down in Canada [Re: geokills]
    #5265543 - 02/05/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sad day for Canada. Sounds like the US is having all sortf of fun with their new buddy up here in Canada.

I was looking over a couple Canadian news sites and couldn't find anything on this situation. Could somebody with more info on whats happening to some journalists of larger Canadian news organizations. Hopefully one of them will pick up the story and possibly shed more light on the situation.


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Re: Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Co, & Eurohemp.com Shut Down by CA Polic [Re: starseed1066]
    #5265587 - 02/05/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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starseed1066 said:
well lots of IPs now aren't static, so they change all the time. something about every restart, or every time the connection is interrupted. i'm not positive tho.




Actually IPs are tending to become static more often, statistically speaking. It's preferable for high speed communication.


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