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Orranis
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Double Tub Question - Size? RH? *DELETED*
#5261513 - 02/04/06 01:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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musher_420
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: Orranis]
#5261537 - 02/04/06 02:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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DUDE!..what happened to the homemaid martha construction?
My last double tub I was getting like 10 inchers on my third flush. Your gonna need the head room. The Double tub retains its humitdity just from the casing its self. The coolmist wont be needed.
Edit Funmatic is quicker then me....
Edited by musher_420 (02/04/06 02:26 AM)
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: musher_420]
#5261708 - 02/04/06 06:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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single 18 gall tubs work just as well as a duble tub. they are taller than most tubs it seems. Just make a lid like this with nufoam witch is flat polly fill.


works great and takes up less space than dubble tubs.
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? *DELETED* [Re: onetime]
#5262351 - 02/04/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: Orranis]
#5262445 - 02/04/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try to find a few smaller trays that will fit pretty evenly into the bottom of your tub.
Then you can just let your trays colonize as you normally would and then throw them into the tub when ready to fruit. If one of the smaller trays inside the tub does happen to contam. You can just remove that tray alone isolating it from the rest. Just remove it on the first signs of green so that the spore's wont jump to your other trays.
This way you wont have all your eggs in one basket but wont have to go threw the trouble of making a bunch of smaller tubs.
(don't be so paranoid contams aren't much of an issue with fully colonized substrate and a properly prepared casing mix, Ph is critical.)
Edited by musher_420 (02/04/06 12:43 PM)
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? *DELETED* [Re: musher_420]
#5262535 - 02/04/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: Orranis]
#5262622 - 02/04/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmmm..... I don't know about that stuff man. I can't say it wont work. But I do know that I was told NOT to use dolomitic limestone because of the magnesium in it.
You don't want potting soil.
Try,
45% verm/ 45% peat (mix in powdered oyster shell at a ratio of 5% to the PEAT) / and 10% coir. The coir isn't necessary you can just do 50/50 verm/peat but the coir helps with seeing when your layer is getting dry.
You can also do the 60/40 verm/coir tek.
Just remember that if your using peat you need to adjust the ph to neutral or just slightly about 7.
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? *DELETED* [Re: musher_420]
#5262679 - 02/04/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: Orranis]
#5262720 - 02/04/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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for peat moss go to a pet store around your area....look for reptile bedding or maybe just general bedding for animals. there is large compressed bricks of peat moss you can buy thats cheap. all you do is add hot water and it expands. no additives or anything. good luck, pm me or something if you need more help.
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: spooky]
#5262804 - 02/04/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spooky. Are you sure you aren't thinking about Coir? Not Peat.
Coir comes in compressed bricks at the pet store for reptile beds or you can get it at hydroponic shops. Its Ph in neutral however it has some nutrients in it that may cause overlay. This is why it's best mixed with verm.
Peat moss is usually sold in larger bags. It is compressed somewhat but not like coir.
You should see if there is a hydroponics shop locally or a garden center open this time of the year.
Pick up the peat you need and some kind of PH tester. Litmus paper or some other kind of test strip. If you want to use hydrated lime you can put the peat into a bucket and fill the bucket with water. Then remove any sticks or large clumps. Now add a very small amount of hydrated lime. Mix the peat around and use your test strip to see what the ph is at now. Continue adding very small amounts and testing until your peat is SLIGHTLY above 7 Ph. Remember the Ph scale is logarithmic meaning a change in 1 is actually 10 fold larger.
This is the ideal way to adjust the Ph of your peat. Of course just mixing in powdered oyster shell also works but it's a guessing game.
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? *DELETED* [Re: musher_420]
#5262874 - 02/04/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: Orranis]
#5262898 - 02/04/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Peat is acidic in nature.. Green mold THRIVES in acidic conditions.
Your flushes will lack. And you wont have as many because the mycelium produces acidic enzymes as it digests nutrients. This is why calcium carb is used as a ph buffer. For long term Ph balance. Hydrated lime is used to make a quick adjustment but dosen't last long.
If you can't find a good garden store or hydroponic store locally you should go to the pet store and buy the coir. The pet store is also where you can find powdered oyster shells. They are used for birds. The Coir is used for reptiles.. .I really really suggest you don't use those mixes with all those added chemicals.
If you don't want to case you can build an FC out of that tub that uses perlite humidification and fruit WITHOUT the casing layer. Do a search on fruiting without a casing layer and see what kind of results people got.
Edited by musher_420 (02/04/06 03:02 PM)
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: musher_420]
#5262998 - 02/04/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what up people.. i have a question regarding the double tubs... what do you use to prevent water droplets caused by humidity..... it really gets my caseing too wet...i dont think thats good?
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: vescudero0]
#5263317 - 02/04/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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vescudero0 said: what up people.. i have a question regarding the double tubs... what do you use to prevent water droplets caused by humidity..... it really gets my caseing too wet...i dont think thats good?
If you have your moisture content correct in the beginning you shouldnt have to worry. If your still having problems just put your casing layer on a little more dry than usual.
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Re: Double Tub Question - Size? RH? [Re: StopGo]
#5267162 - 02/05/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanx...
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