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odd ball pedro
    #5261482 - 02/04/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ok so i was looking for cacti does anyone know about bouncing bears i had the troch which was weak how is their pedro and http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/pedro-cactusodd-ball-cacti-p-425.html that looks good even if they were weak and you did chem extact or blender em should still trip right or get their regular ones? also would taking a kilo and random pedro as a tea be to much and OD? also i was thinking getting 12inch bridgesii,6 inch pedro, and the kilo of the odd ball ones and blend it or chem extract btw whats a good extract guide? would that be enough for four poeple to trip balls? how many doses? alot of questions


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5261677 - 02/04/06 05:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Punctuation is not a thing to be overlooked, or even worse, omitted!

It makes it a little harder to decipher the meaning of your post when there is minimal punctuation, I'm afraid.

As for taking the whole kilo, that wouldst be a damn fool endeavor.

Root them, and let them GROW. In doing so you thereby become the posessor of a living machine which turns free sunlight into precious mescaline. If it is a quick fix you desire, there are sources online for affordable powdered cactus, and since that is allready dead you wouldn't be killing anything in the process.

If you DO buy the oddball cacti, root them all and let each and every darn one of them grow for 6 months.

After that time, take cuttings from the cactus by sterilizing a hacksaw and cutting the top of them off. Leave a minimum of a 6 inch tall segment above the soil in order to allow them to survive and recover.

a column of cactus from 14 to 16 inches in length is often enough for a decent dose. However I strongly urge you to educate yourself by visiting resources such as erowid and the nook and reading up on dosages, effects, etcetera. So that you may understand what to expect and also so that you may have enough knowledge of your own that you will not do something foolish for lack of knowing any better.

Forgive my tone, it's 4am here, and I'm a bit grumpy  :tongue:


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5262672 - 02/04/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

whats a site with cheap powder the only powder iv seen has cost alot a kilo for 15 is super cheap


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5262731 - 02/04/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

how is shamans hut


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5262958 - 02/04/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

sigh


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5263335 - 02/04/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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whats a site with cheap powder the only powder iv seen has cost alot a kilo for 15 is super cheap




That's $15 for a kilo of wet, living cactus. Cactus are mostly water. Only god knows the dry weight of those cactus, until someone actually dries them to find out for themselves.

And, by the way, just as a warning... the shipping cost per live cactus is often pretty steep, because they're heavy and well they're living cactus and are of significant size.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264406 - 02/04/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

lol boucing bear is $5 for anything from there. i was thinking of taking em all and making a nice juice the size of a tea cup and drink it all. they have powder cactus on other sites for $15 for a oz i think 1 kilo fresh of random cactus blended into a super tea would infact be stronger then 1 oz of dried green skin could be wrong tho. which would be a better powder green skin torch or powder green skin bridgesii? and whats the dosage i have always wanted to get my hands on this stuff? i have a torch planted but its weak so im just gona let it live till it dies on its own


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264676 - 02/04/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Kind of headstrong, aren't you?

You've repeated questions after I've told you about the resources to easily find out for yourself.

Mescaline Info
Mescaline Cacti Info

Read the San Pedro potency FAQ, the effects description, and the dosage section. Do all of that before you post another question. And most certainly do all of that before you even think about taking mescaline.

If you don't do some of your own research, a lot of people are just going to ignore you when you ask questions.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264702 - 02/04/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i have done my share of reading tho


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264734 - 02/04/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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i have done my share of reading tho




yet not enough to know questions which are answered by 30 seconds of searching?


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264746 - 02/04/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

well i was talking specific to the providers of the stuff green powder from company X could have 300mg of mesc and company B have 100mg for the same amount of powdered cactus so i dont think erowid can tell me that can it or any other site


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264757 - 02/04/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Nobody can predict the percent content of mescaline in a cactus. Not even people who are actually willing to do research.

However one of the links I gave you provides information about the average percent of mescaline in each cactus, both when dry and when wet.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264766 - 02/04/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

my main wonder is Bridgessi or torch


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264772 - 02/04/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You haven't clicked any links, have you?


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264781 - 02/04/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

o well i just get 100 grams of the stuff hopefully ill get 500mg of mesc at least


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264835 - 02/04/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you lack the willpower to click a link and spend 5 minutes reading, I doubt you'll be able to handle drinking cactus tea, so you're going to want to try a method that doesn't challenge you at al.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264846 - 02/05/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

this is getting funny  :tongue2:


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5264847 - 02/05/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i did click and read lol i can handle alot i have extracted DXM,and DMT , i have taken cactus tea with ayahuasca so whats with the negitive vibes man peace


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264857 - 02/05/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

My guess would be Bridgessi, because even when ordering from ethno suppliers it sounds like Torch is unreliable.

At least I believe I read somewhere today about someone ordering from one of the main sources and saying that the results were weak.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: thedudenj]
    #5264887 - 02/05/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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i did click and read lol i can handle alot i have extracted DXM,and DMT , i have taken cactus tea with ayahuasca so whats with the negitive vibes man peace




Sorry if I'm being harsh, but your attitude ain't the best for someone asking for advice. You were given links and you went on to ask people to just do all of the work for you instead.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Konnrade]
    #5265144 - 02/05/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thedudenj

No offense, but he's got a point.

I've answered a number of your threads, and hopefully helped you, so maybe you'll take it to heart from me.

You've got a curious mind, like many of us here. But you seem to get real ahead of yourself, asking all your questions at once, even for things way down the road (like your dmt injection thread). You've probably created more new threads than anyone in a couple subforums the past couple days.

Take a break, chill a little, and just search it out. Nearly all the things I've answered for you were available. For cacti, it has been answered many many times. And unfortunately the answer is: shrug. There is a vague region of truth, but it differs so much, even from the same company. Just search for general information. Search here, search erowid reports.

By keeping your questions more specific, such as: "According to this source blah blah blah, but that contradicts with what was said over here, blah blah blah so I was wondering this specific detail and that, according to your experience. In my own opinion, it should probably..." you get the point.

Think back to school, you know there were the teachers who hated short answer questions, and really wanted the students to THINK about something with an essay question? Most students hated it, but the ones who could do it were the ones who learned. If you help out in this way, it can make for a good discussion that people will like to partake in, rather than a spoonfed Q&A we've done a thousand times before.

Hope that makes a little sense, and isn't insulting in the least.


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Re: odd ball pedro [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5315952 - 02/19/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well said.  :thumbup:


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