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    #5260622 - 02/03/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I was just wondering why my pins are taking so long to really get growing. Been about 4 days now.

I was just fanning and noticed that the perlite looks a little dry. I pressed my finger into and its absolutely dry. Would this be slowing down my pins?

How would I go about rehydrating this?


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: License_to_Chill]
    #5260689 - 02/03/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: License_to_Chill]
    #5260718 - 02/03/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Pour some water maybe mix it with a glug or two of H2O2 and Just use any kind of container that makes it easy to pour around your cakes/casings.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: License_to_Chill]
    #5260947 - 02/03/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would use a syringe to inject water back into the cakes.

But I'm just logically guessing, I'm still a newbie.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: Cutter]
    #5261010 - 02/03/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't syringe it back in. Nice thought though.

Just pour the water/peroxide mix back in and slush around. You must have had a thin layer of perlite to make it that dry so fast. Next time, try making your perlite layer thicker.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: Cutter]
    #5261015 - 02/03/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, its not the cakes that are dry...I don't think. Its been just about 2 weeks since I dunked them.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261071 - 02/03/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Just pour the water/peroxide mix back in and slush around.  You must have had a thin layer of perlite to make it that dry so fast. Next time, try making your perlite layer thicker.




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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: License_to_Chill]
    #5261073 - 02/03/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well thats a good sign then. Just up your humidity in your chamber and you should be good then!


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: djsage420]
    #5261085 - 02/03/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

4 days for pins is a very very short time, mine pin after about 7-9 days, I have waited as long as 2 weeks though.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261089 - 02/03/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Is that the cause of my slow pin growth? I've been looking at old grow logs and noticed that most pins are really fat when they grow. Mine just seem to be really skinny. Kinda worrying me...


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: djsage420]
    #5261092 - 02/03/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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4 days for pins is a very very short time, mine pin after about 7-9 days, I have waited as long as 2 weeks though.




Well, I mean they are on their 4th day of pin growth and they still seem pretty small. It took them 9 days to actually start pinning.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: djsage420]
    #5261102 - 02/03/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It depends, I have strains that are thinner such as cambodian and p.e.s.h, south american are a medium thickness, and my orissa india's are some fatties!!!


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261109 - 02/03/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yea strain is a big factor. The biggest factor though is fresh air exchange. Are you fanning enough? If not, you better start! :smile:

Simply keep your humidity up and make sure they have enough fresh air. You will get plenty of pins then.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: djsage420]
    #5261111 - 02/03/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Alright. Cause I've got Golden Teachers going right now. They just seem to sprout up really skinny. I didn't know if that was due to lack of humidity or not.

Next time I'm doing H. Poo.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261113 - 02/03/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Yea strain is a big factor. The biggest factor though is fresh air exchange. Are you fanning enough? If not, you better start! :smile:

Simply keep your humidity up and make sure they have enough fresh air. You will get plenty of pins then.




I fan about 6 times a day.  :grin: 

How long does it usually take for pins to mature?


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: License_to_Chill]
    #5261128 - 02/03/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly if you cant get cakes to work, poo is going to be MUCH harder.

So...you have fanned enough.

It takes about 5 days to go from your pins to full blown shrooms, so keep doing what you are doing and you should have shrooms if you have pins.

Make sure your temps are staying in acceptable range as well and they do not fluxuate considerably.

Seriously.....be patient......shhhhhhh..... :smile: Everything will be cool as long as you follow directions.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261146 - 02/03/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I am.  Temps are at about 72-75 degrees.  I just dumped a little water from the water bottle I used to mist with on the dry perlite.  I also noticed a hell of a lot more pins starting to form.

Thanks, tokey.  I'd give you +5 again, if I could.  :mushroom2:

I guess GT pins take a longer to form and mature...


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261161 - 02/03/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think poo is that much harder. Pre-pasteurized poo is available from tennstud. That's about 90% or the work right there. He has got cakes to fully colonize the only thing extra he has to do is crumble them and mix them with the poo.. simple. It actually makes the job far easier in my opinion. The mushrooms WANT to grow on the shit.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: musher_420]
    #5261167 - 02/03/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I live surrounded by ranches. I have an abundant source of poo. YAY!

I've been reading those teks like a madman. They do seem pretty damn easy. I just need to make a better FC.


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Re: Perlite is Bone-Dry. (Fast Help Requested.) [Re: tokey666]
    #5261169 - 02/03/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yep yep. That may be.

Lemme ask ya something. Do you have the cakes directly on the perlite?

Because if you can, dump some more perlite in and then some more water/peroxide mix. You want that perlite COMPLETELY saturated without any standing water.

When I first prepare my perlite, I put it in a mixing bowl and then soak in warm water for 10 minutes. I then scoop one handful at a time into the bottom of my container after giving each a little squeeze.

Might help ya for next time.

But anyway, another thing I forgot to say, try not to babysit them TOO much. I read somewhere that rapid evaporation from the cakes is not good either.

Anyway, give it time. I have confidence in ya.


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