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Muslim anger on cartoons spreads
    #5258749 - 02/03/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Up to 300 hardline Islamic activists in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, went on a rampage in the lobby of a building housing the Danish embassy in Jakarta.

Shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is Greatest), they smashed lamps with bamboo sticks, threw chairs, lobbed rotten eggs and tomatoes and tore up a Danish flag. No one was hurt.

In the West Bank city of Ramallah, hundreds of Palestinians attended a Hamas-organized rally, tearing up a French flag and holding up banners reading: "The assault on the Prophet is an assault on Islam"..."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/03/cartoon.wrap.reut/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5258803 - 02/03/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5258833 - 02/03/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

In the West Bank city of Ramallah, hundreds of Palestinians attended a Hamas-organized rally

On the other hand:

Mahmoud Zahar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, visited a group of Christian nuns and clerics yesterday at the Holy Family School to reassure them after the Latin Church, a small congregation based in Jerusalem, had also received threats. He unequivocally condemned the threats against foreign nationals. " We are not accepting any aggression against foreign institutions whether EU or American, or against any other group, foreign or Palestinian," Dr Zahar said. He said some Palestinians had already boycotted Danish goods and Hamas wanted them to continue protesting by "legal means".

He told the Christian group "you are our brothers who live side by side with us along with the foreigners who come to serve this community". He said that Hamas's armed wing would offer protection for the Christians until such time as an incoming Hamas government could reform the security services and provide official security.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article342865.ece


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Alex213]
    #5258847 - 02/03/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what's your point?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5258865 - 02/03/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What's yours?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5258911 - 02/03/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think his point is that Mahmoud Zahar, the leader of Hamas will spread peace and love all over the world.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5259099 - 02/03/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I might have to pull up my terrorist prediction thread.






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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5259192 - 02/03/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Religion of peace is the shit.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5259203 - 02/03/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know why the muslims are taking out their anger at denmark. They have no control over what an independant newspaper prints. It would be like black people riotting at the white house gates for letting the KKK print hate material


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Worf]
    #5259559 - 02/03/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

haha terrorists using microsoft office. isn't that such a perfect picture of the world?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: kotik]
    #5259622 - 02/03/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This over sensitivity is bullshit. Do I get to burn down an art gallery that displays a crucifix submerged in urine since I am a
Christian?

These people need a reality check.

Also, it gives merit to the cartoons.....they are acting like them.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Worf]
    #5259682 - 02/03/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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outputrotation said:
I don't know why the muslims are taking out their anger at denmark. They have no control over what an independant newspaper prints. It would be like black people riotting at the white house gates for letting the KKK print hate material


Good observation, here is the point you are missing. In the arab-muslim world, the government does and should control what newspaper prints. They do not differentiate between religion, government, and free press because theirs are all connected.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: DieCommie]
    #5259695 - 02/03/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i really hope that no one apoligizes to "the muslim world" that would be fucking retarded. it's a danish newspaper and has nothing to do with some dumb yokel in indonesia.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5259743 - 02/03/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

fuck em....


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Innvertigo]
    #5259788 - 02/03/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Christians get mad...they write letters. Muslims get mad...they blow stuff up. Kaboom!


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5259907 - 02/03/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The muslims didn't seem to protest this much when an American got his head cut off in the name of allah. This is probably the best thing that could of happened to the world, it's opened the eyes that have been shut in denial. This part of the world has shown is true hypocrisy, unfortunately many of us already knew of this hypocrisy. I applaud the Danes and whenever possible I'd take up the slack of whatever Danish goods that aren't used in the middle east.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Innvertigo]
    #5260113 - 02/03/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Worf]
    #5260116 - 02/03/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know why the muslims are taking out their anger at denmark.

it's not all muslims (as alex231 pointed out), just the young, underemployed, uneducated, ignorant, angry, insecure, males...

does anyone else notice the similarities between the militant islam and white supremacist movements? it's the same phenomenon: young, angry, ignorant, insecure males joining the same sort of movements to fulfill the same needs.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: sever]
    #5260121 - 02/03/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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A friend of mine pointed out that france does have a large muslim population. So it was probably common knowledge that drawing muhummad went against their religion.




Not following allah is against their religion. Personally I don't care what their religion's "rules" are. I'm Christian, not following the 10 commandments are against my religion.

I believe France has the most muslims in a non-muslim country (5 million)...then again, when in rome, do as the Romans do....or in this case, the frogs.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5260126 - 02/03/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

On some photos you can even see a crowd burning danish flags - obviously there are some well-equipped flag burners out there, with assorted flags of all western nations.

The over-reaction of the islam leaders, shortly after the election of the Hamas in Palestine and the dispute over atomic material with Iran really produce a reaction that can be summed up as "now, somehow this really goes to far" in me and many other people in Europe, I think. I guess a growing polarization between east and west is almost inevitable now.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: heidegger]
    #5260745 - 02/03/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Has anybody seen the actual cartoons that have made them so upset?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: gregorio]
    #5260778 - 02/03/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've seen them. They're all over the web. Some of them are completely neutral. One is even complimentary. That's not the point. The point is that Islam forbids ANY images of Mohammed.



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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: gregorio]
    #5260784 - 02/03/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_drawings.jpg

Not the best quality, but you can pretty much tell what they're trying to depict.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Ravus]
    #5260877 - 02/03/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Here's a link to all twelve. You can click each one and enlarge it.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/sarticle.php?id=12146



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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Phred]
    #5260902 - 02/03/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Some of those are really stupid. It doesn't take much to piss off young fundamentalist Pakistani students, obviously.

Just wait until someone writes a Naked Lunch-style erotica between Mohammed and Jesus, as they go around the world trying to pick up young guys and resolve their unrelinquished love for each other...


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Phred]
    #5260967 - 02/03/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I wasnt aware of that. So you can have a complimentary cartoon and they will still want to kill you over it.

I understand now. I think.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: heidegger]
    #5261376 - 02/04/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The over-reaction of the islam leaders, shortly after the election of the Hamas in Palestine and the dispute over atomic material with Iran really produce a reaction that can be summed up as "now, somehow this really goes to far" in me and many other people in Europe, I think. I guess a growing polarization between east and west is almost inevitable now.


Over-reaction from which leaders? The Hamas leaders response was pretty rational.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Alex213]
    #5261401 - 02/04/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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The Hamas leaders response was pretty rational.






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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5261417 - 02/04/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Mahmoud Zahar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, visited a group of Christian nuns and clerics yesterday at the Holy Family School to reassure them after the Latin Church, a small congregation based in Jerusalem, had also received threats. He unequivocally condemned the threats against foreign nationals. " We are not accepting any aggression against foreign institutions whether EU or American, or against any other group, foreign or Palestinian," Dr Zahar said. He said some Palestinians had already boycotted Danish goods and Hamas wanted them to continue protesting by "legal means".

He told the Christian group "you are our brothers who live side by side with us along with the foreigners who come to serve this community". He said that Hamas's armed wing would offer protection for the Christians until such time as an incoming Hamas government could reform the security services and provide official security.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Alex213]
    #5261438 - 02/04/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Alex213 said:
Mahmoud Zahar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, said "KABOOM!".




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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Alex213]
    #5261439 - 02/04/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I must say I'm impressed with how Hamas has carried itself since the elections.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Redstorm]
    #5261443 - 02/04/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I must say I'm impressed with how Hamas has carried itself since the elections.






Yep. Amazing form. Absolutely graceful.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5261445 - 02/04/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see any dead Jews in that picture.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Redstorm]
    #5261457 - 02/04/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hamas would be fucked if they attacked Israel now. They are the majority holder of power in the Palestinian government and if they were to attack...Israel would invade. They are no longer an "underground" organization with little legitimacy.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5261467 - 02/04/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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A video was released today that shows the cartoonists of the controversial cartoon threatened with their lives. The faces of the cartoonists are covered by sniper targets, also the video orders Muslims to continue boycotting Danish products. The video originates from a forum that is often used by known terror groups.




http://www.ogrish.com/archives/video_targets_cartoonists_Feb_03_2006.html


Great pic right there. Well done. They may have mastered MS Word, but they ain't used After Effects yet.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5261480 - 02/04/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, in my opinion, their verbal oath to protect Christian churches is a great sign of good faith, especially coming from Hamas.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Redstorm]
    #5261485 - 02/04/06 01:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Do you really believe them though? I mean, come on.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5261489 - 02/04/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I really do think they want to eventually be legitimate so they can be the party that gets to represents an actual Palestinian state.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5261732 - 02/04/06 06:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Comedy Central has been advertising a Moses vs. Muhammed video game on their website for weeks now.

Have there been any muslim riots like this in North America? I want to throw ham at people.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Redstorm]
    #5261743 - 02/04/06 06:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hamas needs puppets.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Redstorm]
    #5261756 - 02/04/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

they're pissed off because their religion forbids the representation, in any way, of their prophet mahomet.

on one side, you've got those who aren't respectful towards a religion's principles, and on the other you've got religious people who aren't respectful towards independent journalism's right to free expression.

complicated issue, but i hate to see a polarization of mentalities like that, definitely not a good sign.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Alex213]
    #5262023 - 02/04/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Over-reaction from which leaders? The Hamas leaders response was pretty rational.




For example, the iranian president is considering boycotts against all countries where the cartoons have been published. Other countries like egypt etc. demand explicit excuses from the leaders of these nations (obviously they can't differentiate the press from the government). Many arabic nations demand punishment of the people involved in the publication of the cartoons.


"A leader of the Islamic militant Hamas group, which recently swept Palestinian parliamentary elections, told an Italian newspaper on Saturday that the cartoons were an "unforgivable insult" that should be punished by death.

"We should have killed all those who offend the Prophet and instead here we are, protesting peacefully," Mahmoud Zahar, a top leader of the militant Islamic group that won the January 25 Palestinian elections, told Italian daily Il Giornale.

"We should have killed them, we should have required just punishment for those who respect neither religion nor its holiest symbols," Zahar was quoted as saying."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/04/syria.cartoon.ap/ (please note that this is 3rd-hand information)


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: exclusive58]
    #5262045 - 02/04/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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they're pissed off because their religion forbids the representation, in any way, of their prophet mahomet.

on one side, you've got those who aren't respectful towards a religion's principles, and on the other you've got religious people who aren't respectful towards independent journalism's right to free expression.

complicated issue, but i hate to see a polarization of mentalities like that, definitely not a good sign.




The dictates of their religion apply only to the adherents of their religion. They can chop the heads off all the Muslim idiots who make pictures of Muhammed or shave their beards or whatever moronic decrees they make. I don't give a fuck. But they sure as shit won't be telling me I can't draw a picture of Mohammed buggering a piglet. Because I choose not to join their 7th century whack job cult.

There is nothing the least bit complicated about the issue. They have no claim to authority over anyone who is not willingly Muslim. End of discussion. They can complain all they want, but that's it.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5262113 - 02/04/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Check the news. Muslims just stormed the Syrian embassy compounds of Norway and Denmark and set them both on fire.


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    #5263117 - 02/04/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5263492 - 02/04/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i think all of this might be a reflection of the muslim's relation to their religion, if they are so easily offended by a critic aimed at their religion and if they react the way they do, it may be because they aren't so confident in it and they have doubts about it. or something like that...


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    #5263500 - 02/04/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I seriously doubt that, based on my experiences with them. The Muslims I have known seem to have no doubt at all about the truth of their religion.

And that would be why they get so offended. They see the Qu'ran and Mohammed's teachings as universal and absolute, sent down by God himself, so that anyone who violates them (no matter who) would be going against God's will. And to not only violate it by trying to draw Mohammed, but actually mocking Mohammed as a terrorist, well...


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Ravus]
    #5263534 - 02/04/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5263654 - 02/04/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

They should watch how Christ and Santa were treated on "South Park"!


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: kotik]
    #5263674 - 02/04/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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haha terrorists using microsoft office. isn't that such a perfect picture of the world?





As opposed to terrorists writing it?!


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Silverwolf]
    #5264889 - 02/05/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

geez,these people are so wacked out it pisses me off...now even more about hearing this cartoon.HA...I hope south park makes up an episode FAST,I'm sure they will...c'mon its south park!


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #5265835 - 02/05/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.drawmohammed.com

its a cartoon, damnit. Im in norway, should I start fearing that muslims in my country is out to hurt me because of a cartoon now?? is that the point, i dont want to do that, we should never let muslims in strange corners of the world tell us what to feel or what to do. its bad enough that the goverment here doesnt dare speak up against usa and george bush but I can live with that, usa and scandinavians have similar lifestyles and stuff. but we should never ever let extremist tell us what to do and the goverment better not apoligize. the people behind this cartoon and the newspaper has allready apoligized for it, that should be enough, but nooo they want them dead , and there is no crime here in scandinavia with death penalty, making a cartoon is not a crime here so it seems that this conflict will last, probably end up in more violance. And i dont think spending more money in palestiania, libanon, sudan and so on is a good idea anymore. I think we should stop wasting our tax and oil money with trying to help these people. And we could also show some viking muscles instead of put up with this crap.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: pharao]
    #5266430 - 02/05/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

French Strike Deal to Quell Anti-Cartoon Riots

by Scott Ott

(2006-02-03) ? The French newspaper that set off Muslim riots this week by republishing Danish editorial cartoons implying a connection between Islam?s founder and modern acts of terror, announced today it had reached a negotiated settlement with a leading Islamic group to end the controversy which has sparked boycotts, violence, gunfire and hostage-takings.

?We should not have portrayed this peaceful religion, or its Prophet (peace be upon him), as angry, violent, or reactionary,? said an unnamed editor of the French daily from his bunker in an undisclosed location. ?Starting tomorrow, we will atone for our insults to Mohammed (peace be upon him), and demonstrate that we are fair and balanced.?

Under the terms of its agreement with the group, Bond of Muslim Brotherhood, the paper will run a series of cartoons portraying Jews as ?greedy deceivers who control the world from their headquarters in the territory they stole from the Palestinians.?

A spokesman for the Islamic cleric group said, ?We welcome this anti-Semitic gesture as a reasonable first-step toward reconciliation that will allow us to protect the reputation of the Prophet (peace be upon him), as we gradually phase out some of our planned riots, bombings and beheadings.?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Phred]
    #5267633 - 02/05/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

great! I love it.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5268951 - 02/06/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

im a pretty damned good cartoonist.
i could manupulate the hell out of muslim extremests.
do some dirty drawings of mohammed,
put my enemies name on it as author,
post it on an islamist militant website.
sit back and smoke weed.

jesus, seriously, the extemests are only prooving the cartoons right. which is sad. it shows how easily influenced they are. a tool for ANYONE with a little evil and brains.

like for example, if you wanted to get westborogh baptist church blown up.... just photoshop a few of their protest photos, except add "mohhammed=fag" on one of the posters or something.
bang, no more WBS.
im not doing it of course.
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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5273779 - 02/07/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

More deaths as anti-cartoon riots spread

"In Iran, which is locked in a nuclear stand-off with the West and has cut trade ties with Denmark where the cartoons were first published, crowds pelted the Danish Embassy in Tehran with petrol bombs and stones for a second day."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/07/cartoon.protests/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: wilshire]
    #5276210 - 02/08/06 03:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

> seriously... what the hell is with these people?

This is nothing... wait until Iran has nukes... then we get to see all sorts of fun when somebody publishes a cartoon mocking the peaceful, loving, and tolerant religion of Islam.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Seuss]
    #5276234 - 02/08/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5276411 - 02/08/06 07:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Iran's atomic program going to the Security Council of the UN is the reason. Those cartoons are the excuse.

Why?

Because of this.

http://images.google.com/images?q=muhammad
http://images.google.com/images?q=mohammad
http://images.google.com/images?q=mohammed
http://images.google.com/images?q=muhammed
http://images.google.com/images?q=mahomet
http://images.google.com/images?q=mahoma

Here you are, tons of banned pictures of the prophet, long before any generalized explosion of muslim rage. In fact, the cartoons were published in september 2005!!!

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: funnybunny]
    #5276713 - 02/08/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Can you re-word what your saying. I'm not fully understanding it.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Phred]
    #5276783 - 02/08/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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French Strike Deal to Quell Anti-Cartoon Riots

by Scott Ott

The Roman Empire and some Chinese empires struck deals with peeps like Mongols, Huns, and Germanic nomad tribes, look what happened. The Roman Empire got swamped and a few Chinese Empires fell as well at the hands of the Huns. It was Han that bribed the nomads and tried to make a peace deal with them... Right? They got taken over by the Huns after they showed weakness.

(2006-02-03) ? The French newspaper that set off Muslim riots this week by republishing Danish editorial cartoons implying a connection between Islam?s founder and modern acts of terror, announced today it had reached a negotiated settlement with a leading Islamic group to end the controversy which has sparked boycotts, violence, gunfire and hostage-takings.

?We should not have portrayed this peaceful religion, or its Prophet (peace be upon him), as angry, violent, or reactionary,? said an unnamed editor of the French daily from his bunker in an undisclosed location. ?Starting tomorrow, we will atone for our insults to Mohammed (peace be upon him), and demonstrate that we are fair and balanced.?

Under the terms of its agreement with the group, Bond of Muslim Brotherhood, the paper will run a series of cartoons portraying Jews as ?greedy deceivers who control the world from their headquarters in the territory they stole from the Palestinians.?

A spokesman for the Islamic cleric group said, ?We welcome this anti-Semitic gesture as a reasonable first-step toward reconciliation that will allow us to protect the reputation of the Prophet (peace be upon him), as we gradually phase out some of our planned riots, bombings and beheadings.?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: barfightlard]
    #5276787 - 02/08/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the largest newspaper in Iran (cant remember its name) now holds a cartoon contest where they want to test if europe is serious about free speech, the contest is drawing a holocaust cartoon and mock the jews. They want to see if european newspaper will reprint these cartoons just as easy as they re printed the mohammed cartoons. Iran has said several times that the holocaust was not so bad and that it is used (as an excuse) to create Israel. Many of these extreme muslims claims that these cartoons is a support to israel in the israel-palestinia conflict.

Another thing I noticed was the attack on norwegian peace keeping forces in Afghanistan. This was not a protest but a planned act of war with weapons (ak47 and hend grenates). Norway is sending 4 F16 flightrs down there now.

In Norway there has been attacks on mosces and some fights between norwegians and muslims (it has been norwegians who has attacked muslims). I expect more trouble to come. People here are scared and even in schools there is fights, this is a huge set back for intergration of our new citizens from the middle east.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: giz]
    #5276967 - 02/08/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what is the prize?
I could really think of some offensive shit that i totally wouldnt beleive in, and i suppose my name would be evrywhere as the artist/author, and i would be hated worldwide.
but seriously, is it something like my weight in gold? 1000 handmade rugs? a room full of schimitars? my own militia of young muslim extremists? a free spore syringe? a rolls royce made entirely of opium? a magic lamp? a flying carpet?
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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: giz]
    #5277001 - 02/08/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

They should have just moved the Jews to Utah after the holocaust and let that bloodthirsty tribe keep their sandbox.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5277077 - 02/08/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

but then the mormons would start suicide bombing.
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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5277142 - 02/08/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

naw, you know what? i won't participate unless i am ASSURED the jews will take my holocaust cartoon with a grain of salt and see it for the satirical bullshit it would be.
the prime idea i think would be to make an offensive, almost nazi cartoon, like maybe a face smiling with these

over its eyes.
I think THAT would be REALLY offensive. yet speak to muslim extremists.

if such a bold fucking slap in the face could be published and NOT cause an uproar among jews, then i think a follow up cartoon is in order to rub it in the faces of muslim extremists. :smile:
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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5277261 - 02/08/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

This picture best describes what is going on right now.



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    #5277643 - 02/08/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A mulla from Taliban , mulla dadullah, have promised 5Kg with gold to whoever kills a norwegian. And 100 Kg gold for the life to one of the twelve cartoonist who made these cartoons. This mulla is high up in the Taliban and is lsaid to be a good friend to the taliban leader mulla omar. mulla dadullah is wanted for a life time sentence for a murder and is hiding, ?I belive similar rewards are promised before by taliban , against americans among others, but nothing has really happened but this is the first time they offer gold in reward. Sounds to me like taliban is desperate after attention.

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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: giz]
    #5278904 - 02/08/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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    #5280832 - 02/09/06 07:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

poll time!


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You may choose only one


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Asante]
    #5280842 - 02/09/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I voted for Pee-Wee Herman... screw all these touchy feely folks that get upset over a cartoon... we have real problems to worry about, such as figuring out how much it is going to cost to print up an unnamed prophet's picture on toilet paper...


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I voted for Pee-Wee Herman... screw all these touchy feely folks that get upset over a cartoon... we have real problems to worry about, such as figuring out how much it is going to cost to print up an unnamed prophet's picture on toilet paper...



Where can I buy a few rolls. I really feel the need to wipe my Allah with a few sheets of Muhammed.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5281488 - 02/09/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You'd better get a few rolls of Jehova wipe and Jesus wipe made up, too, so as to show there is no discrimination here. No deity is too good to be scraped across my ass.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Asante]
    #5281560 - 02/09/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If true, this will make the whole situation even more interesting.

"While most British and American mainstream media refuse to print the cartoons "out of respect for Muslims," one of Egypt's largest papers Al Fagr printed them last October, during Ramadan. Al Fagr isn't a small newspaper either: it has respectable circulation in Egypt, since it's helmed by known Journalist Adel Hamoudah."



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    #5281596 - 02/09/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

jerusalem post also printed them, its just a sin to reprint these cartoons in western newspapers see.


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It's a shame so many lives have been ruined over a silly cartoon/masturbating in a porn theatre


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    #5286103 - 02/10/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Heh, got this in an email today thats spreading like wildfire on mailing lists:

OUTRAGED MUSLIMS! OH MY!
We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed. In fact ... here is one of my favorites!

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the Muslim street!



Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:
Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule?

Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago.
? "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"
Indeed. Why not?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Thor]
    #5286233 - 02/10/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The editor of the Norwegian newspaper who reprinted the cartoons has apologized to the whole muslim community worldwide from the government building (so it may seem like the gov has been a part of this but "really isn't") and this apologize seems to have been accepted many places where there has been riots among other Egypt. BUT i am really disappointed now- i don't mind that the editor apologize, thats his business but that the government played a part in this , as "silent partners", is very disappointing. but hey as long as things calm down I guess I can live with this.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: giz]
    #5286298 - 02/10/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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giz said:but hey as long as things calm down I guess I can live with this.


just sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened huh? Thats ok i guess, after all it is a reiligion of peace.



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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: Thor]
    #5286324 - 02/10/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I think the outrage over these cartoons is totally dumb, on both sides of the fence. Its sensationalist, opportunistic, petty and childish.

It makes the Nation of Islam look bad, but it makes the West look bad too. I think it would be best if we just tried to laugh at this situation instead of allowing fundamentalist whackos to assign it any real significance.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5286332 - 02/10/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Both sides? Wait, non-muslim europeans are rioting, pilliging, and destroying because of the cartoon too? First Ive heard of it...got a link?

I dont think the Nation of Islam is rioting either... have any links showing they are?


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: DieCommie]
    #5286345 - 02/10/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Both sides? Wait, non-muslim europeans are rioting, pilliging, and destroying because of the cartoon too? First Ive heard of it...got a link?

I dont think the Nation of Islam is rioting either... have any links showing they are?




So you think that apologizing to the muslim world for a bunch of cartoons is making Europe look good? You've got an interesting spin.

I'll admit that writing "Nation of Islam" was a goof, but you're sarcasm is really annoying and is actually pretty indicative of the childishness I was talking about.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5286377 - 02/10/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I sense a little sarcasm in your post as well, but I'm not annoyed. :rastamon:

and I certainly didnt think you meant "apologizing" by equating the muslims and non-muslims actions as equally bad.  Obviously my sarcasm was referring to the fact that only the muslims are destroying and rioting, not the cartoon makers/publishers.  My statement had nothing to do with apologizing.  You are spinning my sentences.

I certainly wouldn't equate the outrage expressed by the muslims (riots) to the "outrage" expressed by non-muslim euros (apologizing).  Sure apologizing makes europe look bad, but in my opinion europe is weak, so im not surprised.  Acting weak and rioting over are cartoon are certainly not equatable.


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Re: Muslim anger on cartoons spreads [Re: DieCommie]
    #5286568 - 02/10/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the fact is that in lets say Iran , statoil (Norway larges oil company) has invested billions after billions and Norway loose large amounts of money on these riots. Norway has no recent history of being a war mongering country, we are all about making peace and oil cash. We think very different than people in USA about certain things, even tho our lifestyle is somewhat similar. We are a nation of 4.5 millions and we are outside of EU, we stand alone. when it comes to using military force , we may be weak without USA and NATO we are pretty easy to invade. USA is more used to stuff like this and this is the first time in my lifetime I have seen Norwegian flags burn and so many people angry at us. US has seen this many times. And all of this over a cartoon. We should focus on more important issues now and build up our relation to many middle east countries again, not because we likes them so much after this but business is business and should run as usual. No I'm not proud to be Norwegian today after this apology, deep deep down I have some viking blood screaming that this is wrong. But fuck it, they are willing to die over this cause, so lets smoke a peace hookah with them, that being said, I have lost alot of respect for these nations and for Islam. . Sorry my rambling , im drunk and stoned. But a sad day and its time for some serious evaluation of what has happened. .

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