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Second Grow (Casing)
    #5258522 - 02/03/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hi all, just letting everyone know that my second crop will soon be underway. This time, I will be using a Casing technique and hope for a much higher yield than last time. I will keep anyone who is interested updated on my progress, but there won't be much activity for a couple weeks as my supplies are arriving in the mail. More details to come, and pictures of the entire process too.

Also, check out my first grow!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5076144#Post5076144

Thanks for stopping by.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5258640 - 02/03/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

cool dude good luck. I saw your 1st one... pretty cool 19g. Ill be starting a thread once mine are fully ready


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #5273726 - 02/07/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

List of supplies, prices, and provider:

4 Sterilized wbs grain half pint jars
1 Substrate bag that has been sterilized (about 4 - pounds)
1 Casing Material bag, premeasured, sterilized
4 vinyl gloves
All the above...........$25(includes ship) (online service)

2 metal baking pans.....$1.50 (Wal-Wart)

Bunch of spore strains..$0.00 (Allready had)
(Huatla, B+, Amazonian, Burma, Puerto Rican)
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$26.5

I will still need to get some saran wrap and possible devise some sort of humidity tent to put over the pans which will hold the casing.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5559208 - 04/26/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Due to unforseen circumstances (the online provider who I had bought jars from in the past has gone out of business and is MIA), I will now be making my own substrate. Since this is the case, I bought myself a 22qt. pressure cooker. Production therefor will begin on or around June 1st when I can actually use the PC.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5559265 - 04/26/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

esdfsfd said:
List of supplies, prices, and provider:

4 Sterilized wbs grain half pint jars
1 Substrate bag that has been sterilized (about 4 - pounds)
1 Casing Material bag, premeasured, sterilized
4 vinyl gloves
All the above...........$25(includes ship) (online service)

2 metal baking pans.....$1.50 (Wal-Wart)

Bunch of spore strains..$0.00 (Allready had)
(Huatla, B+, Amazonian, Burma, Puerto Rican)
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$26.5






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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: skeletor]
    #5753294 - 06/15/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here we are back again with production in full swing...In the first pic there are my jars inoculated with Burma, Huatla, and Puerto Rican strains. Used WBS+Verm and BRF+Verm...did a couple different teks, including the one where you bake everything and then inoculate the water and hope the mycelium colonizes faster than mold haha
So the second pic is of a jar I have that may have some contams (i was thinking cobwebmold) but i will let you folks be the judge. so here they are



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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5765976 - 06/18/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well its been a few days and i dont think there is any mold in any jar which is cool...maybe a week to go before birthday cake woohoo!


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5767498 - 06/19/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, nice PC. Did that cost you a fortune?


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: dreadful]
    #5768915 - 06/19/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

no it was only 30 bucks on eBay!
after buying a new seal though it was 40


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5777503 - 06/21/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)


Some shots of an aborted, contaminated, cased baking pan.
I actually did this when I made my jars and totally forgot about it in my closet...checked it today and saw that mess. Worth a shot though.

Contamination looks like green mold on top, and brown mold on the bottm.
I spooned up some chunks and flipped them over, alot of healthy mycelium underneath as well which was surprising.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5781490 - 06/22/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Update: Cased one cake, put another cake in fruiting chamber. They were the same strain so we will see which method works for me (hopefully both) but the casing was a bit warm when I put it on the crumbled cake so we will have to see!


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5781907 - 06/22/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hehe that healthy mycellium you saw underneath very well could be the healthy trichoderma mycellium which turned that casing a lovely shade of green :laugh:


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: coda]
    #5786662 - 06/24/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)



Horay for Casing 101!!!

Edit: I guess I should update:

Crumbled one fully colonized cake (a 1/2 pinter) in saran wrap (couldn't find ziplocks) and placed chunks ontop of wet vermiculite in the pan. Then I sterilized some cowpoo/compost mix and used it as casing material.

Since I only crumbled a half pint I didn't apply casing too deeply and mycelium popped up in 2 days (the picture is today, the third day).

Then I put the pan into the fruiting chamber where it is ~10 degrees cooler and recieves 12 hours sunlight.

I also have a whole 1/2 pint cake that is also in a fruiting chamber and is starting to pin.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5786666 - 06/24/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Good luck man I hope it works out :thumbup:


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5792122 - 06/26/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

coda: it was :undecided:

Snaggletooth: thanks!


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5797921 - 06/28/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Update: I made another casing with one of the PF cakes I had. For this one, it was cased directly in a tub. Casing is CPOO+compost .2% Nitrogen and .2% Pothash.

Is it OK to use a birthed cake then later use it in a casing?

I was also doing alot of reading and am very interested in the alcohol extraction for shrooms. I hope to have enough to try this TEK out.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5797983 - 06/28/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you mean a freshly birthed cake yes. If it has already produced a bunch of mushrooms then it will probably colonize very slowly if at all.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: MasFina]
    #5798134 - 06/28/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the cake was in FC for 2 days but didnt even pin so it was basically fresh, thanks for the info


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5798935 - 06/28/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

also, first casing hasn't done anything for about 2 days now


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5799040 - 06/28/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

has the mycelium started to poke through on the top? If it has, yo should probably patch it...




p.s what are you using as a fc? Cuz what I do is take 2 freezer ziplocs and cut off the left side on both, then i tape them together and then walla, humidity tent, then i get a tuppaware container with no lid and fill it with damp perlite, and put it in there with the casing. If you want I can dig up my camera and show you a pretty good pinset that im getting right now.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: dudefromaz]
    #5799043 - 06/28/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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has the mycelium started to poke through on the top? If it has, yo should probably patch it...

p.s what are you using as a fc? Cuz what I do is take 2 freezer ziplocs and cut off the left side on both, then i tape them together and then walla, humidity tent, then i get a tuppaware container with no lid and fill it with damp perlite, and put it in there with the casing. If you want I can dig up my camera and show you a pretty good pinset that im getting right now.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: Yamidude]
    #5799118 - 06/28/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yes, as you can see in the picture, mycelium has poked through. my FC is a tupperware container with lid, with perlite+water on bottom then the casing tray.

updated pic:
Before Patch.

After Patch.


Would simply putting saran wrap over it be the same for a humidity tent?


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5806911 - 06/30/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Update:

1st casing/patched(pan in tub):



2nd casing/patched(tub):



In the second pic you can see a spot of mycelium. It originally formed on the side of the tub (so it must have been a piece of substrate that clung to the side) and then worked its way down onto the poo.

Third casing is in a tub, still in the dark incubating.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5812200 - 07/02/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

More casing pix:

Casing 1:



Casing 2:


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5812840 - 07/02/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is an opinion from a new grower so take it with a grain of salt, but if both containers have been patched once already, they should be put into fruiting ASAP. Again, IMO, it looks like casing #1 is perfect for the fruiting chamber while #2 is a little late (but better late than never).

On the other hand I made the exact same mistaken and I got a wicked pinset, so...

Congrats on the grow. Looking good!

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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: splifner180]
    #5821144 - 07/04/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Update:

Looks like mycelium on casing #1 receeded or died so a deep scratch will be performed in hopes of saving it.

Casing #2 however is doing awesome and there are basically pins all over...not sure if you can see them in the pic, but I mean ALL OVER the place.


What a happy 4th of July pinset!

Casing #3 has been removed from darkness and shows healthy mycelium popping up nicely.


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Re: Second Grow (Casing) [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5834563 - 07/08/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think these are Amazons...do they look like amazon to anyone else?



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