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cutting edge tai chi
    #5125471 - 12/31/05 08:41 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

hello, i rarely post my own topics anymore but i'm in a giving mood today.
this information comes from a small pool of about 5 tai chi/kung fu/other instructors that are all kind of in the same vein of experiance.

The old view is that perfect body alignment was the way to "channel" massive quantities of energy and shape them for tai chi.
the new view is discovering that the channel can be created solely as a state of awareness or mental exercise.

if you want more info ask a question.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5125681 - 12/31/05 10:50 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

did you learn from the instructors yourself? or do they publicly teach or anything like that?


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5126549 - 12/31/05 03:50 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Just for clarity, in short, you are saying, body posturing is not neccesary to channel lots of power through?


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5134223 - 01/03/06 07:44 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I do agree with you my friend, even the weakest of us are capable of great feats if we truly believe in the power.

Any-mind, any-body that has made the choice to open the connection, will begin to realize the potential that exists.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5134484 - 01/03/06 10:30 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Plant the feet, rotate the hips, and wham... there is your power!!


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: looner2]
    #5138780 - 01/04/06 01:19 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I dont know about the whole body alignment thing, i never did quite go along with it. Everything is willed by the intention of the observer in this universe, the physical body is just a holagram.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: Akira]
    #5140223 - 01/04/06 07:00 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

the way i see it, regardless of how you view the universe.. you still have to go to work to get money to eat. until that changes, the whole m-theory / we are just observing our own perspectives, etc. doesn't hold water.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: kotik]
    #5214546 - 01/23/06 04:27 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

wu-hao style is about controlling the body with the mind itself.

one day my instructor gave me a pamphlet on wu-hao style (which i had not yet read) and soon thereafter I did some LSA. I have moral qualms of doing tai chi while on drugs, but it serves as sort of an inspiration. Anyway I was blown away by what was happening to me...... I put the connection together that my random spontaneous (totally free!) movements were "wu" ...... and I started saying...... "how.......?" as in... how in the world is this happening...... again.... i was like "wu!!!!" .......... "how??????"

then i spun around and saw the pamphlets he gave and looked at them.
wu-hao style.

mind was blown.

So yes, I have plenty of questions.... I'm not sure what they are, though.

aside from, is tai chi a gateway to mystical ecstatic states? When you're sober?


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: leery11]
    #5230087 - 01/27/06 07:39 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I myself am a practitioner of Qi Gong (cultivation of Qi of "chi"). I have an amazing teacher who has not only been doing internal energy work for decades but also has his PHD in molecular bio-chemistry. His theories on chi being an actualy physical force as well as a non-physical mental force (its a paradox I know) are absolutely incredible.
From what I have personally studies and experienced, physical posturing is required to cultivate that energy until one is able to reach a mind state so calm yet concentrated that he/she is able to bypass the physical restrictions and let the energy run free.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5231116 - 01/27/06 01:33 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

truekimbo2 said:
hello, i rarely post my own topics anymore but i'm in a giving mood today.
this information comes from a small pool of about 5 tai chi/kung fu/other instructors that are all kind of in the same vein of experiance.

The old view is that perfect body alignment was the way to "channel" massive quantities of energy and shape them for tai chi.
the new view is discovering that the channel can be created solely as a state of awareness or mental exercise.

if you want more info ask a question.




Like what?


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: Gomp]
    #5234388 - 01/28/06 07:44 AM (18 years, 30 days ago)

yeah sorry i was real tired when i posted it. the basic idea being once you learn the energetic princibles behind the physical techniques you can focus soley on using those energies and the placement of the physical body becomes irrelevent. for example being able to root while in ackward positions. so in escence what i've been taught is tai chi on some level can be imposing what is in your mind onto reality.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5235358 - 01/28/06 01:42 PM (18 years, 30 days ago)

Has anyone ever seen the discovery special, where some guy goes to a bunch of major tai chi places, where instructors claim to be able to knock other people over just from energy from their mind. He has them perform this feat on him, and films the whole thing, of course nothing happens, and each instructor has varying excuses. Me personally, I like to eat a big bowl of pure energy in the morning, then shoot it at people throughout the day.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5242454 - 01/30/06 02:56 PM (18 years, 28 days ago)

Interesting..


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: TheCow]
    #5244855 - 01/30/06 11:51 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

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Has anyone ever seen the discovery special, where some guy goes to a bunch of major tai chi places, where instructors claim to be able to knock other people over just from energy from their mind. He has them perform this feat on him, and films the whole thing, of course nothing happens, and each instructor has varying excuses. Me personally, I like to eat a big bowl of pure energy in the morning, then shoot it at people throughout the day.



did they go to like temples in china or tai chi at some suburban strip mall?


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5248207 - 01/31/06 07:15 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

if you can do that you would generally not claim it.

chi is sort of a union of mind and body, chi is what makes up the body and you learn how to move yourself individually so that your chi is always flowing meaning you always have direct connection and focus to your body in its relation to time and space and whatnot.

so if you're advanced enough you can direct chi, literally, and use it against oppononets, until them it just involves the physical sensations of interacting with other people, or yourself.

you can use chi to push people, but generally speaking you also use your hands.

focusing chi in your hands and through someone's body while pushing makes you very strong without having to apply force, kind of.

i barely understand the concepts but this is how it seems to me.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5251363 - 02/01/06 02:44 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

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ShroomDoom said:
Quote:

TheCow said:
Has anyone ever seen the discovery special, where some guy goes to a bunch of major tai chi places, where instructors claim to be able to knock other people over just from energy from their mind. He has them perform this feat on him, and films the whole thing, of course nothing happens, and each instructor has varying excuses. Me personally, I like to eat a big bowl of pure energy in the morning, then shoot it at people throughout the day.



did they go to like temples in china or tai chi at some suburban strip mall?



I believe he went to somewhere out of the western world for one part. But are you implying that only the great mystical asian race can handle such things? He picked places which were he said, generally regarded to be the most prestigious places.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: TheCow]
    #5253872 - 02/02/06 12:59 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

i happened to watch that show, i noticed they didn't use the person that the episode featured (the master) to do the test, they asked his student to do it, and when they asked him about it afterwards he said there were some factors that would affect it, but i didn't see them offer to re-do the test with the master controlling the conditions.

edit, sorry this post has been garbage, i felt like there was something important that i had to share for those martial artists here but i'm doing a piss poor job of it.

i used tai chi because i figured more poeple would relate to it, but in my own language of psionics i'd say that i'm fairly sure higher level energy poeple are using fairly strong telepathic projection at some point.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5256039 - 02/02/06 04:25 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Well actually it was the master that performed the test, I dont know what you mean. And yes the master had some excuse, about his feet not being in allignment, or something absurd.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: TheCow]
    #5256148 - 02/02/06 04:50 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

it wasn't the master, its on demand here and i just watched it again to make sure, they had one of his pupils did it and gave no explenation why.


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Re: cutting edge tai chi [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5256521 - 02/02/06 06:26 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

I dont know what you mean, there were different schools he went to. And for this particular one you are talking about, even if it was the student, do you think the master would have put the student up if he didnt think he was good enough? I mean the reputation of his school is at stake. Or is it because if the guy failed, then at least it wasnt the master that would have failed. I think the motive for him putting a student up instead of him, is important. Its possible he knew he couldnt do it, and so didnt want to ruin his reputation which was clearly based off nothing.


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