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eris
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Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus
#5255918 - 02/02/06 03:55 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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These were grown some time in 2003 I believe. I used to be more into cultivation, but I haven't really had much time to get into it lately. Anyways, these were grown to the mature Portabella stage rather than harvested young as button mushrooms. They are a cool species to watch grow, even though they are so commonly found in markets. They got REALLY big. Bigger than any that i have seen in a grocery store. The pictures do them no justice.
Here they are all gown up .
I remember that they were very tasty. More so than what you get in the stores. Nothing beats fresh picked mushrooms. There is a huge difference for sure.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#5255923 - 02/02/06 03:57 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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very nice, do you recall your substrate mixture?
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eris
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: waixingren]
#5255936 - 02/02/06 04:00 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wish that I still had it. I remember writing down the instructions for preparation from one of my books. I'll have to do some looking around and see if I can still find it! Note that there is a casing layer.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#5256074 - 02/02/06 04:35 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Neat trick with the plastic bag in a box.
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eris
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: falcon]
#5256098 - 02/02/06 04:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The general concept consisted of using the plastic to keep the substrate wrapped up and the box to keep things dark while it incubates.. it also makes things kind of easier when the time comes to apply the casing layer. The plastic can be cut open and remain in the box. The box can be easily opened and is also easy to cover back up.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#5257965 - 02/03/06 12:39 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here you are a (video) link to see how Agaricus bisporus grow into the catacombs under Rome during the Fascism (1922-1945), This way to grow mushrooms is used also in our days. Anyone can remember one of the first images on the book "Growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms" of Paul Stamets illustrating this method.
mms://212.90.30.27/300/MpegC300/C023602.wmv?sid=1138951458796460&subscription=3
mms://212.90.30.27/300/MpegB300/B059401.wmv?sid=1138951878531135&subscription=3
This just a few of seconds about mushrooms in Romania
mms://212.90.30.27/300/MPegI300/I185902.wmv?sid=1138951940500163&subscription=3
This about coltivation of agaricus in Bulgaria, 56 TONS for year (1 ton = 1000 kgs)
mms://212.90.30.27/300/MPegI300/I193004.wmv?sid=1138952111484339&subscription=3
Always Bulgaria (very cool with slants! They should use the way of our friend srgtm1a, whisking them)
mms://212.90.30.27/300/MpegR300/R064204.wmv?sid=1138952576296534&subscription=3
you can open it with windows media player
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: FreeSporePrints]
#5786145 - 06/24/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry to bring back a thread from a couple months ago, but I was wondering if these videos can still be streamed or downloaded from anywhere. I'm really dying to see them (especially the ones about the mushrooms in the catacombs!!)
thx for any responses
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FreeSporePrints
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: iamyour_messiah]
#5786567 - 06/24/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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you can play them into windows media player or simply download them with a tool as HTTRACK...
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eris
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: FreeSporePrints]
#5791585 - 06/26/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't think I ever saw that last reply. Windows media player just gets stuck on "connecting..." when I try to load them now.
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FreeSporePrints
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#5791601 - 06/26/06 03:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm sorry!
try with this http://www.gustosoft.com/divx-player/ace-divx-player.htm
or check over google.com "*.wmv player"
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: FreeSporePrints]
#5791608 - 06/26/06 03:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I found a packet of dry spawn for agaricus. I can get plenty of straw so i might just use that. On the instructions it says to add blood meal to the straw, cover up in plastic and let it degrade to compost. Anyone ever hear of this? It says it will be too hot to touch when its degrading. Or could i just the good old pasturization?
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#5791871 - 06/26/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good stuff! Mushrooms are grand!
Reminds me of Mycophiles old bulk neglect teck for cubes, or was it Roadkills? Oh well that was like 4 years ago.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: eris]
#24173267 - 03/18/17 08:56 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Those look huge! I've been using the search box sifting through the forums for hours and looking through the sponsors lists and various online spore vendors and I am having an impossible time finding a viable spore syringe/print/culture for Agaricus Bisporus. Its commercially harvested like no other mushroom yet i'm unable to find anything really except an amazon seller from Ukraine getting bad reviews from cheap "mushroom seed".
I am beyond excited to try and grow these, can anyone point me in the right direction? Everything i read says to not expect great results from cloning a supermarket mushroom, from someone who has grown these, where is a good place to start?
Can anyone give any firsthand advice on growing these at home? Substrate? I've read of making the compost and turning it, i've read colder fruiting temps. Really, if i can just find quality spores or culture i've dug up enough in these 4 hours to initially succeed and improve from there. ... ... ... If i could find a starting point of course.
Does anyone have any interest in these little guys as I do?
Thanks
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24173736 - 03/19/17 12:24 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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buy one from a store. tear it open and harvest a sample to grow out. Many of us do not bother because they are so grown out commercially. but ya it is that easy really.
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: RandomFX]
#24175736 - 03/19/17 06:01 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I can understand that, i doubt i'll go past the first or second grow for the same reason, but watching the magic of creating something i use daily for years but have never created, that just has to be done.
What species seems to be peoples favorites and best to grow at home? I'm looking at blue oysters and shiitakes, I have a large oak tree over my driveway that needs trimming and the branches will be a perfect 4-6" diam for shiitake logs. I'm hoping they're pretty forgiving as i'm doing a bunch in hopes of giving away fully colonized mini-logs as christmas presents in 8 months.
Any advice for a noob?
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24176436 - 03/19/17 11:09 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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The logs should be cut before they leaf out. It may be a little late in most parts of the country.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Quadman]
#24178562 - 03/20/17 06:04 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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The information i'm finding is a bit confusing for my area, most sources i read say cut in late winter / early spring and the reason is because of sugar accumulation in the wood as a natural antifreeze; shiitake thrive on it.
However i live in right on the southern coast of the US and most of the trees don't lose their leaves here. I'm sure they accumulate extra sugars but i doubt they hold on to them.
i guess I need to know if they will grow at all. I'm ok with 50% yields compared to ideal conditions, and i'm hoping wood fiber and water will be enough to get me that. I've already ordered the plugs so i guess i'll just try a few, i felt comfortable ordering them because i finally found a PF tek for shiitake. and figure i'll use 2 plugs per jar as inoc.
Thanks
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24178809 - 03/20/17 08:28 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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I think one of the main issues is you need to keep the bark on the log. If not cut at proper time you can lose bark. You will be fine innoculating. I use 2 plugs per quart jar of WBS all the time. Shiitake take about 17 days to colonize that way.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Quadman]
#24179230 - 03/20/17 11:52 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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17 days is much better than 9 months haha, thats why i felt comfortable ordering the plugs. I sure hope the logs work out, I may start a thread with pics on the log grow as I don't see nearly as much activity on the edibles side of this great place.
The only jar substrate mix i'm finding right now for shiitake is brown rice flour, gypsum, water and sawdust from a hardwood.
Have you tried that or always done wild bird seed? Would you mind sharing your wbs mix ingredients and ratios, along with any tips? This will be my first grow ever.
Thanks.
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Re: Found some old pictures of home cultivated Agaricus bisporus [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24179273 - 03/21/17 12:27 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
Humble Newcomer said: 17 days is much better than 9 months haha, thats why i felt comfortable ordering the plugs. I sure hope the logs work out, I may start a thread with pics on the log grow as I don't see nearly as much activity on the edibles side of this great place.
The only jar substrate mix i'm finding right now for shiitake is brown rice flour, gypsum, water and sawdust from a hardwood.
Have you tried that or always done wild bird seed? Would you mind sharing your wbs mix ingredients and ratios, along with any tips? This will be my first grow ever.
Thanks.
You should ask this in The Shiitake Grower's Thread not in a 10 year old one about an Agaricus- which is a secondary decomposer so doesn't even eat the same food as Shiitake.
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