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Darcho
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Re: Bush is a Terrorist [Re: shymanta]
#5260385 - 02/03/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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'Terrorist' is such a used and abused word. What does it even really mean? Who does it refer to? Hell, the way things are going, its seeming as if soon anything can be labelled a terrorist. So much for using words effectively....
I mean, you could say that if a man's penis were self-aware, in a sense that we are bodies with two minds: one in the skull and one in the penis, then a man's penis could be legitimately labelled as a terrorist. Seriously.
Who are we kidding here? Nobody but ourselves. Lets drop the rhetoric; drop the loaded language, and look at these matters from an objective stand-point. Sure, you can say, in a satiric manner, that "Bush is a terrorist," but there are too many uptight people who will get all flustered about such statements.
Stick to a neutral, objective language for speaking of such events, and you can achieve the view of truth you are looking for. Think of Aristotle: being virtuous is following the golden mean; sticking to the middle. Sure this can be considered a stretch in interpretation, but not really, think about it. Or, if you are a Buddha fan, think of his middle path, and his analogy of the stringed instrument. Basically, neutrality and objectivity are the guides to enlightenment and truth.
Of course, maybe you don't want such things, and all you really desire is to support your side of the argument; to support your force and will to power. That's cool, if so, but you should really be honest about it, instead of trying to manipulate the people to support your side of the argument with propaganda and irrational techniques of persuasion. It creates anger, and, for all intensive purposes, represents an evil in authority that most people will learn to hate. Hate is not a good thing. Think of the dark path which it leads down.
Take a Yodanian approach to the big picture of this contemporary, global environment: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate... hate leads to suffering. What stage are we at? Fear, anger, or hate? What stage are others at?
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shymanta
Mad Scientist


Registered: 01/27/05
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Re: Bush is a Terrorist [Re: Darcho]
#5260632 - 02/03/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Darcho, I like your reply. It speaks with intelligence and reserve. I should like to hear more of your thoughts.
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Darcho said: Of course, maybe you don't want such things, and all you really desire is to support your side of the argument; to support your force and will to power. That's cool, if so, but you should really be honest about it, instead of trying to manipulate the people to support your side of the argument with propaganda and irrational techniques of persuasion.
Am I really perceived this way?
I must sound a raving loon. That's the problem with a keyboard, it shows no emotion, no facial expression. You must fill that part in (correctly assumed or not).
Its funny though, when I post something I would really like to talk about; share ideas and theories, no one replies. When I post something that get people's panties in a wad, replies aplenty. This serves to make another point. Humans can't live peacefully, we need drama and conflict. Otherwise we might die of boredom.
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Ekstaza
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Re: Bush is a Terrorist [Re: shymanta]
#5260728 - 02/03/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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shymanta said: This serves to make another point. Humans can't live peacefully, we need drama and conflict. Otherwise we might die of boredom.
Not me. I thrive on a strict no drama diet. Everyone at work seems to rellish in the office drama and even when we are off somewhere drinking they start to talk about it. That's usually my cue to go home.
-------------------- YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ANY GIVEN DRUG ISN'T THE DEFINITIVE MEASURE OF THE DRUGS EFFECTS.
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shymanta
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Re: Bush is a Terrorist [Re: Ekstaza]
#5261306 - 02/03/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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We need more like you, Ekstaza.
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Darcho
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Re: Bush is a Terrorist [Re: shymanta]
#5261335 - 02/04/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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shymanta said:
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Darcho said: Of course, maybe you don't want such things, and all you really desire is to support your side of the argument; to support your force and will to power. That's cool, if so, but you should really be honest about it, instead of trying to manipulate the people to support your side of the argument with propaganda and irrational techniques of persuasion.
Am I really perceived this way?
That is something you can only ask yourself. Who am I to know what it is that you perceive? I do not have this capability, but if I did, then you could refer to me as "telepathic".
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I must sound a raving loon. That's the problem with a keyboard, it shows no emotion, no facial expression. You must fill that part in (correctly assumed or not).
Its funny though, when I post something I would really like to talk about; share ideas and theories, no one replies. When I post something that get people's panties in a wad, replies aplenty. This serves to make another point. Humans can't live peacefully, we need drama and conflict. Otherwise we might die of boredom.
That is because the current situation as it is right now is volatile; it is sketchy. Theory works best when it is put to practice. What matters most for practice; for behaviour, is what we most immediately need in order to survive (or at least it should be). If we fail to analyze the situation you bring up properly, then we never reach the truth of the matter. What I mean by "analyze properly" was stated in my previous post, but to remind you: "Having a neutral stance; a neutral point of view, not taking either side of an argument; being objective."
The pursuit of truth is a virtuous task (or so I have heard it said), and that is because virtue is the practice of wisdom. Wisdom is attained/obtained in light of truth. Truth is obtained in light of enlightened being. This is the middle path.
If the string is too loose, it will not play properly. If the string is too tight, then it will snap when it is plucked. The string must be in between; a synthesis of the two, in order to function properly; so it can play. As long as we have play we will avoid boredom, and the pursuit of play can be stifled by boredom: an indecisiveness in regards to which game one should play; which goal we should proceed to achieve (or attempt to achieve, depending on your will). We need to play the right games. Games that involve the drama and conflict you mention. But why does conflict have to be deadly, lethal, brutal, etc... in a non-virtual sense? We can still have these nice things of fighting, ownage, destruction, chaos, death, etc..., but have them in a virtual domain, where death is not real, and consciousness and identity of self are maintained?
The topic you bring up attracts attention, because it is the most drastic topic of the moment (regarding survival). I don't want to be lied to by people who are in authority and control. I don't want to live in a secured nation of fear. I don't want violence being committed in my name, seeing as how our national figure heads represent our choices and our voices. This is the attractive point of democracy: the citizens have the say. Such violence condemns us. These issues that you bring up, they should get the most attention, as they are the most important to our survival, to our evolution, and to our concept of freedom.
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