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shroomsynergy
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What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest...
#5252633 - 02/01/06 08:07 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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...way to grow shrooms. explain teks, and which strain is the fastest growing that also yeilds decent sized shrooms?
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hyphae
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5252650 - 02/01/06 08:10 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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It depends on the vigor of the substrain bro any strain has the capabilities. FYI optimizing your parameters will get you results quicker always! GL
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: hyphae]
#5252672 - 02/01/06 08:14 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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i understand that, but with perfect conditions (well close to perfect) which way would be the fastest???? Do any strains stick out as far as speed is concerned?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: hyphae]
#5252675 - 02/01/06 08:15 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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well my experience I love millet , It's the greatest
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Shroom101]
#5252698 - 02/01/06 08:19 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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LC>>>GRAIN>>STRAW>>>COIR
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: StopGo]
#5252720 - 02/01/06 08:23 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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I'd agree with StopGo. But it takes time and practice no matter what method you use, whether its the fastest or the slowest.
Someone who doesn't know what they are doing while using the "fastest" method could quite easily take longer (due to failures) to produce fruits than an experienced grower using a significantly "slower" method.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: StopGo]
#5252723 - 02/01/06 08:23 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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"MMMMMMN, WHAT IS THIS.........MILLET???? MMHMHMHM?? (in a YODA voice)
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5252727 - 02/01/06 08:24 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Millet is the main ingredient in Wild Bird Seed (WBS)
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5252736 - 02/01/06 08:25 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Some of the vendor sites advertise some strains as being quick colonizers, but the majority of the speed is a matter of what you do with it.
Whatever you come up with that is the fastest, could be improved upon. The extra week or two will make a big difference in yield. Good things take time 
But, if it were a race or something, I'd inoculate a jar of WBS (or any other grain), let it colonize (9 days under optimal conditions), spoon it out into a pan, and throw it in a humidity chamber you might get fruits within 3 weeks.
That would be a terrible way to do it though... what's the rush?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: diablovt1125]
#5252742 - 02/01/06 08:26 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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LC to bulk substrate in spawn bags. You can easily go from spores to mycelium to colonization to fruiting in 12-15 days.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5252749 - 02/01/06 08:27 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Wronguy, is that skipping the spawn?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5252759 - 02/01/06 08:30 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Yes, I skip the spawn phase entirely. The key to speed is having liquid cultures on hand at all times. The key to success is having a good substrate mix and the correct moisture content. The rest is only a matter of time. Works great with the Double Tub tek as well.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5252784 - 02/01/06 08:33 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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GOD DAMN!!!!!! you skip the spawn???? i'm way more confused than when i started. can you explain further, or link to a tek or something??? that sounds DOPE, but confused the hell out of my semi-newb ass!!!!lol
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5252800 - 02/01/06 08:36 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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......oh, and with speeding up the grow is it not true that the smaller/less developed shrooms are gonna be more potent pound for pound?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5252803 - 02/01/06 08:36 PM (18 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Check out this tek by Blue Helix. You will need a substrate recipe though. If you're interested shoot me a PM. I've got a good recipe with perfect moisture content. Having good moisture content is more than half the battle.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5252820 - 02/01/06 08:39 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Hang on a second. I don't really know if I could truly say that I'm skipping the spawn phase of the grow. Spawning is simply the introduction of live culture to an uncolonized substrate. Injecting liquid cultures could also be construed as spawning since the same procedure is being done, just in a different manner.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5252834 - 02/01/06 08:42 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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I bought like a 20 pound millet bag for like 8 bucks but I'm thinking IF I should try some of my popcorn and how much I wonder would do the trick???
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Shroom101]
#5252868 - 02/01/06 08:47 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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i tried mixing birdseed and yellow popcorn and i had pretty good results, but i think that the white popcorn has more nutrition for the mushies due to its generally higher sugar content! all together i learned that i (personally) like to mix BRF with WBS at about half/half for the best results that i've ever had....but that doesn't say too much since i'm kinda new. (about a year and a half of fungus cult.) unfortunatly i just found this sit like half way thru january.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5252875 - 02/01/06 08:48 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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>>>>I don't really know if I could truly say that I'm skipping the spawn phase of the grow.
Well, if you want to cut it like that, using seed would be like spawning twice. You spawn the LC to the seed and then spawn the seed to the bulk sub. You're correct in principal.
haha, for my first outdoor grow, I'll be "spawning" 3 times. Once to seed (12 jars), once to crushed corn cob (12 gallons counting the seed), and once to the bulk sub (this will be an outdoor grow).
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5252926 - 02/01/06 08:58 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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do you think that crushed corn (cornmeal) is better than whole grains????
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5253008 - 02/01/06 09:11 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Haven't used it, but I would guess that since I haven't heard of others using it, it's not as good.
I've used rice flour and rye flour, results vary, but the rye flour did a much better job for me.
Rahz
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5253064 - 02/01/06 09:24 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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i can find rice flour everywere, but rye flour??? were do you get it???
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5253124 - 02/01/06 09:41 PM (18 years, 6 hours ago) |
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I got mine at "Nature's Supermarket", a local organic food store... that's the only place I could find BRF as well.
But there's not going to be a huge difference between the two. I think the rye did better because it kinda clumps more than the rice flour. You'd have to see it, but it seemed to make a bunch of tiny air pockets for the mycelium to grow in. Just don't pack the BRF down, and it'll do fine. If you can find rye flour, do both so you can compare.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5253273 - 02/01/06 10:12 PM (18 years, 6 hours ago) |
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I always get better results when I grind my own Brown Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the rye flour clump more? Also the WBS has more nutrients and oils(thus more potent) vs the popcorn.....
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
#5254150 - 02/02/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Juan_del_Pueblo said: I always get better results when I grind my own Brown Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the rye flour clump more? Also the WBS has more nutrients and oils(thus more potent) vs the popcorn.....
Rye flour gets real sticky but works well just be sure to mix well before addng the water. I prefer dark rye flour myself.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5254190 - 02/02/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wronguy said: I've got a good recipe with perfect moisture content. Having good moisture content is more than half the battle.
Please post it
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: blackout]
#5254205 - 02/02/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made my own brf by grinding brown rice in a coffee grinder. its nic n lumpy.
i just innoc 2 jars of brf cake and 2 of wbs (to spawn to poo hopefully), so ill see which on ends up being the first to fruit and let ya know.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: blackout]
#5254244 - 02/02/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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blackout said:
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Wronguy said: I've got a good recipe with perfect moisture content. Having good moisture content is more than half the battle.
Please post it
I agree. Share the wealth Wronguy....
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: _OttO_]
#5254314 - 02/02/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, I'll share. Now the ingredients were compiled with the help of Blue Helix and Agar. There is nothing exotic in here, but it has a good nutritional profile. This recipe is for 4 large filter patch spawn bags. It will fill them within 2 1/2 inches of the bottom of the filter patch and lays out perfectly in 19 quart containers with a substrate depth of 3 1/2 inches.
The recipe is as follows:
48 Cups of horse manure (shredded) 24 Cups of vermiculite 16 1/2 Cups of dry WBS (do not soak or simmer) 4 Tablespoons of dry Kelp Meal 6 Tablespoons of Canola or Vegetable oil 21 Cups of water
Thoroughly mix all dry ingredients together. Now, add the water and mix again. Due to the human error factor on measurements, you may consider adding only 18 cups of water to begin with and adjust it from there. However, I have found that any measurements that are off are negligible in the moisture content.
After all the water is added, test your moisture content by giving the substrate a hard squeeze. You should only be able to extract a few drops from this, not a steady drip. If you find that your substrate is a little too wet, slowly add vermiculite until you get the right consistency. If you measure everything correctly this should not be necessary. The moisture content needs to be slightly dryer than normal to allow for the liquid culture you will inject later.
The final step is adding the oil. I prefer to add the oil in after the water has been added. I find it's much easier to mix in and doesn't stick to the substrate in one area or clump. Mixing the oil in with the dry ingredients will surely clump on you.
Load your spawn bags at the same time and make sure they are as even as possible. Now it does not matter where you mix this. I do mine in my garage. I know I'm going to sterilize the substrate so contaminates are less of a concern. Follow the tek by Blue Helix to complete it. I personally PC for 3 1/2 hours at 15 PSI.
After they have cooled just inoculate and wait.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5254326 - 02/02/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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whats the oil for?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5254343 - 02/02/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Adding lipids to the substrate increases the nutritional profile. Mycelium will feed on lipids and it helps with vitamin absorption.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5254346 - 02/02/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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rDr4g0n said: whats the oil for?
It helps encourage the mycelium to 'network' and grow faster.
Thanx for the info wronguy, sounds like the go for the next round!
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5254996 - 02/02/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ShrOOmSynEgry said: ...way to grow shrooms. explain teks, and which strain is the fastest growing that also yeilds decent sized shrooms?
This hobby takes time! Instant gratification will take you to steps of having to experiment in areas that you are going to have to do steps over and over again! It isn't about a Chia Shroom! You may as well take your time and do it right the first time, that IMHO would be the quickest way!
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5255677 - 02/02/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's alot on ingredients....
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Asc1189]
#5256446 - 02/02/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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PF tek too poo  or if you have a PC, WBS to poo to casing
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5256541 - 02/02/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tippinthru said:
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ShrOOmSynEgry said: ...way to grow shrooms. explain teks, and which strain is the fastest growing that also yeilds decent sized shrooms?
You may as well take your time and do it right the first time, that IMHO would be the quickest way!

Amen sister.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: _OttO_]
#5260343 - 02/03/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i believe that the oil is for potency, but i may be wrong...
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5260399 - 02/03/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The addition of vegetable oil encourages flocculation.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: agar]
#5261679 - 02/04/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said: The addition of vegetable oil encourages flocculation.
Okay Agar! I better get out the Websters!
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5261947 - 02/04/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made an lc with honey and added bit of oil for the heck of it lol. hope it works out.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5261979 - 02/04/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't recommend adding oil to a liquid substrate. The oil will likely stay on the surface and may suffocate your colonizing mycelium. Oil used in a bulk substrate is only about 1% of the total substrate, but has quite a bit more ingredients available for colonization..
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5262382 - 02/04/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think he's talking about oil in the substrate mix, not the LC. i would assume that oil in the LC would just float on the top and be useless. i could be wrong though.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5262403 - 02/04/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ShrOOmSynEgry said: i think he's talking about oil in the substrate mix, not the LC.
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rDr4g0n said: i made an lc with honey and added bit of oil for the heck of it lol. hope it works out.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#6731845 - 03/31/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the manure supposed to be completely dried? Also, is shedding necessary? Could I just use tennstud dry manure?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: davesj1]
#6758802 - 04/07/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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shredding will help mix it better. One question, casing layer on this recipe, yes or no?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: j_db69]
#6758961 - 04/07/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fastest way is Pan syringe or print to LC > Grain / Poo Bag > Case and flush
I have had grows as fast as 25 days from print to print so to speak 
Edit: This post is kinda old don't you think?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#6759125 - 04/07/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deleted: already answered
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Edited by Rahz (04/07/07 08:45 PM)
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#6760603 - 04/08/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jeez,everyone knows its all about the flocculation.
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bunnybear
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#10334108 - 05/13/09 06:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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i know that this post is a couple years old, but my friend is very interested in trying it. the only problem is horse manure is hard to come by, he was wondering if he could substitute it for steer(cow) or sheep manure. and if so which would be a better choice? thanks a ton
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: bunnybear]
#10334234 - 05/13/09 07:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any herbivore's manure should work. Cow manure will work and has been used successfully
I think horse is preferred because it comes out with more plant fibers. Kindof a one stomach vs. 4 stomachs kindof thing... I think. Not sure
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: ABC]
#10334281 - 05/13/09 07:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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But People say the cow shit is the single best thing for Pans
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: badman]
#10334422 - 05/13/09 07:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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my buddy has found some horse poo, but it has been sitting outside in the snow and rain for two years, is still ok to use or has it been leached of all it's nutrients? thank you for the help!
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badman


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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: bunnybear]
#10336711 - 05/14/09 08:06 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Id use it, what i do with fresh stuff is prepare it like the stuff you can buy from vendors. make it BONE dry a warm day/s is fine then powder using hands you can then bag it for storage. to prepare it add verm, water, pasturise add spawn.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: badman]
#10336777 - 05/14/09 08:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You could always use Coir from your local pet shop. Along with the previously stated recipe ingredients add a quart of spent coffee per brick of coir.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#18444365 - 06/19/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Old thread... but new to me. Just started... have a respectable martha... reptifogger and cool mist and heat and controls for both... hpoo cow-poo chicken-poo gypsum pc coir etc.
I've been using jars without much success (too wet... been worshipping David Barlow's tech, but I'm not doing something correctly) ... now getting bags and suggested sealer...
Tried golden teachers PF (rest in peace, professor) with some success -- until vacation (DAMN YOU WOMAN!!!)... now trying pan cyans HI... no success. Trying LC -- unsure of success of that.
I need to blow up the shit house and start again. Kelp is on the way. With new syringes (this time B+ and pan cyans HI).
Will buy stock in Oust... and make the downstairs bathroom into my own mycological clean space (no carpet and very very small).
There is so much information -- almost an overload. But I'm going with your method and filter bags.
Thanks for the info... if it doesn't work, I know I fucked up. But what good is a hobby that any fool could be successful in, right? Now to buy some tyvek sleeves...
Thanks to you, agar, and blue helix and everyone for being so agreeable.
Peace, Todd
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