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Rahz
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5253008 - 02/01/06 09:11 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Haven't used it, but I would guess that since I haven't heard of others using it, it's not as good.
I've used rice flour and rye flour, results vary, but the rye flour did a much better job for me.
Rahz
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shroomsynergy
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5253064 - 02/01/06 09:24 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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i can find rice flour everywere, but rye flour??? were do you get it???
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5253124 - 02/01/06 09:41 PM (18 years, 7 hours ago) |
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I got mine at "Nature's Supermarket", a local organic food store... that's the only place I could find BRF as well.
But there's not going to be a huge difference between the two. I think the rye did better because it kinda clumps more than the rice flour. You'd have to see it, but it seemed to make a bunch of tiny air pockets for the mycelium to grow in. Just don't pack the BRF down, and it'll do fine. If you can find rye flour, do both so you can compare.
Rahz
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Juan_del_Pueblo
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Rahz]
#5253273 - 02/01/06 10:12 PM (18 years, 6 hours ago) |
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I always get better results when I grind my own Brown Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the rye flour clump more? Also the WBS has more nutrients and oils(thus more potent) vs the popcorn.....
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hyphae
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
#5254150 - 02/02/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Juan_del_Pueblo said: I always get better results when I grind my own Brown Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the rye flour clump more? Also the WBS has more nutrients and oils(thus more potent) vs the popcorn.....
Rye flour gets real sticky but works well just be sure to mix well before addng the water. I prefer dark rye flour myself.
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5254190 - 02/02/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wronguy said: I've got a good recipe with perfect moisture content. Having good moisture content is more than half the battle.
Please post it
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rDr4g0n
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: blackout]
#5254205 - 02/02/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made my own brf by grinding brown rice in a coffee grinder. its nic n lumpy.
i just innoc 2 jars of brf cake and 2 of wbs (to spawn to poo hopefully), so ill see which on ends up being the first to fruit and let ya know.
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_OttO_
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: blackout]
#5254244 - 02/02/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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blackout said:
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Wronguy said: I've got a good recipe with perfect moisture content. Having good moisture content is more than half the battle.
Please post it
I agree. Share the wealth Wronguy....
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: _OttO_]
#5254314 - 02/02/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, I'll share. Now the ingredients were compiled with the help of Blue Helix and Agar. There is nothing exotic in here, but it has a good nutritional profile. This recipe is for 4 large filter patch spawn bags. It will fill them within 2 1/2 inches of the bottom of the filter patch and lays out perfectly in 19 quart containers with a substrate depth of 3 1/2 inches.
The recipe is as follows:
48 Cups of horse manure (shredded) 24 Cups of vermiculite 16 1/2 Cups of dry WBS (do not soak or simmer) 4 Tablespoons of dry Kelp Meal 6 Tablespoons of Canola or Vegetable oil 21 Cups of water
Thoroughly mix all dry ingredients together. Now, add the water and mix again. Due to the human error factor on measurements, you may consider adding only 18 cups of water to begin with and adjust it from there. However, I have found that any measurements that are off are negligible in the moisture content.
After all the water is added, test your moisture content by giving the substrate a hard squeeze. You should only be able to extract a few drops from this, not a steady drip. If you find that your substrate is a little too wet, slowly add vermiculite until you get the right consistency. If you measure everything correctly this should not be necessary. The moisture content needs to be slightly dryer than normal to allow for the liquid culture you will inject later.
The final step is adding the oil. I prefer to add the oil in after the water has been added. I find it's much easier to mix in and doesn't stick to the substrate in one area or clump. Mixing the oil in with the dry ingredients will surely clump on you.
Load your spawn bags at the same time and make sure they are as even as possible. Now it does not matter where you mix this. I do mine in my garage. I know I'm going to sterilize the substrate so contaminates are less of a concern. Follow the tek by Blue Helix to complete it. I personally PC for 3 1/2 hours at 15 PSI.
After they have cooled just inoculate and wait.
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rDr4g0n
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Wronguy]
#5254326 - 02/02/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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whats the oil for?
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5254343 - 02/02/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Adding lipids to the substrate increases the nutritional profile. Mycelium will feed on lipids and it helps with vitamin absorption.
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_OttO_
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5254346 - 02/02/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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rDr4g0n said: whats the oil for?
It helps encourage the mycelium to 'network' and grow faster.
Thanx for the info wronguy, sounds like the go for the next round!
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Tippinthru
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5254996 - 02/02/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ShrOOmSynEgry said: ...way to grow shrooms. explain teks, and which strain is the fastest growing that also yeilds decent sized shrooms?
This hobby takes time! Instant gratification will take you to steps of having to experiment in areas that you are going to have to do steps over and over again! It isn't about a Chia Shroom! You may as well take your time and do it right the first time, that IMHO would be the quickest way!
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Asc1189
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5255677 - 02/02/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's alot on ingredients....
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RemainRandom50
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Asc1189]
#5256446 - 02/02/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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PF tek too poo  or if you have a PC, WBS to poo to casing
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5256541 - 02/02/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tippinthru said:
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ShrOOmSynEgry said: ...way to grow shrooms. explain teks, and which strain is the fastest growing that also yeilds decent sized shrooms?
You may as well take your time and do it right the first time, that IMHO would be the quickest way!

Amen sister.
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shroomsynergy
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: _OttO_]
#5260343 - 02/03/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i believe that the oil is for potency, but i may be wrong...
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agar
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: shroomsynergy]
#5260399 - 02/03/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The addition of vegetable oil encourages flocculation.
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Tippinthru
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: agar]
#5261679 - 02/04/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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agar said: The addition of vegetable oil encourages flocculation.
Okay Agar! I better get out the Websters!
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rDr4g0n
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Re: What do YOU think is the "hands down" fastest... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5261947 - 02/04/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made an lc with honey and added bit of oil for the heck of it lol. hope it works out.
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